Le Pen & The French Elections

[Nik_B 3,790]

Sadly I think the french will wobble at the last minute and she will lose

People need to ask themselves why people like penn and Wilders are as popular as they are

 

Now we know why they had mass migration for years and years....turkeys don't vote for Xmas

[kanny 20,683]

Sadly I think the french will wobble at the last minute and she will lose

People need to ask themselves why people like penn and Wilders are as popular as they are

I'd say the same... Not sure the French have the backbone for it when push comes to shove... Hope I'm wrong.

[Nik_B 3,790]

Time to start throwing the memes about

 

 

[ChrisJones 7,975]

How can things be any worse that what we have now?

You seriously think it couldn't get worse?

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

How can things be any worse that what we have now?

You seriously think it couldn't get worse?

 

 

The EU is going to collapse Chris, not because of Le Pen or Farage but because of the maniacs in charge.

 

Things are already going to get really bad, removing the people who've created the mess might lessen the blow.

[ChrisJones 7,975]

The EU is going to collapse Chris, not because of Le Pen or Farage but because of the maniacs in charge.

 

Things are already going to get really bad, removing the people who've created the mess might lessen the blow.

What happens now then? With everything so interwoven what's the strategy to make it right?

[gnasher16 30,280]

 

Sadly I think the french will wobble at the last minute and she will lose

People need to ask themselves why people like penn and Wilders are as popular as they are

I'd say the same... Not sure the French have the backbone for it when push comes to shove... Hope I'm wrong.

 

Im starting to think they have a lot more backbone than us i remember 10 - 15 years ago when the other Le Pen i forget his name now was coming over here to offer support for the Bnp and he was threatened with arrest and abused ......well there nationalist party has gone from strength to strength while ours has all but disappeared !

 

Gets me the amount of people saying they hope the French end up with a nationalist party when most refused to get behind our own one and took the piss out of it.

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

The EU is going to collapse Chris, not because of Le Pen or Farage but because of the maniacs in charge.

 

Things are already going to get really bad, removing the people who've created the mess might lessen the blow.

What happens now then? With everything so interwoven what's the strategy to make it right?

 

 

I don't think there is going to be any making it right, the wealthier countries will survive barely and maybe they'll be helped out by capital flight from the poorer ones as it starts breaking apart...I was wondering why the stock markets are all booming actually, is this big investors taking money out of bonds and putting it in safer places? I expect the Med countries to be absolutely ruined but getting devalued currency back might shorten the pain. I'm expecting a lot of political violence as well, the rise of far right parties and general misery for a decade or two. I see a lot of parallels with the 1930s, I'm not saying there will be another Hitler or anything but I think Europe is in serious turmoil but it doesn't appear so at the moment because they're still borrowing money like crazy to keep it afloat, it can't last.

 

What do you think will happen?

[kanny 20,683]

 

 

 

 

Sadly I think the french will wobble at the last minute and she will lose

People need to ask themselves why people like penn and Wilders are as popular as they are

 

I'd say the same... Not sure the French have the backbone for it when push comes to shove... Hope I'm wrong.

Im starting to think they have a lot more backbone than us i remember 10 - 15 years ago when the other Le Pen i forget his name now was coming over here to offer support for the Bnp and he was threatened with arrest and abused ......well there nationalist party has gone from strength to strength while ours has all but disappeared !

 

Gets me the amount of people saying they hope the French end up with a nationalist party when most refused to get behind our own one and took the piss out of it.

Le front national and the bnp are very different beasts to be fair ...the bnp were ultra right and le front national are more centre right people often make the mistake of comparing them to each other because of the name. national front but that's where there similaritys end really.

[Nik_B 3,790]

The BNP had quite a surge in popularity but Griffin screwed it up with his dumb comments on Question time, granted they had set him up but to get embroiled in anything to do with the HolocaustTM is stupid beyond belief....he could have just brushed it off as youthful ignorance or whatever. I think Trump got it right with refusing to give the media interviews etc but the internet was in it's infancy back when the BNP was about and most people didn't use it for much.

 

I always felt the BNP only focused on the negative where as the new populism is very hopeful, fun and vibrant and also very popular with the young so it could be the new norm in a decade or two. apparently 40% of young voters in France are voting Le Pen, BNP could never have got close to a figure like that 10-15 years ago because of the way society was.

[gnasher16 30,280]

 

 

 

Sadly I think the french will wobble at the last minute and she will lose

People need to ask themselves why people like penn and Wilders are as popular as they are

I'd say the same... Not sure the French have the backbone for it when push comes to shove... Hope I'm wrong.

Im starting to think they have a lot more backbone than us i remember 10 - 15 years ago when the other Le Pen i forget his name now was coming over here to offer support for the Bnp and he was threatened with arrest and abused ......well there nationalist party has gone from strength to strength while ours has all but disappeared !

 

Gets me the amount of people saying they hope the French end up with a nationalist party when most refused to get behind our own one and took the piss out of it.

Le front national and the bnp are very different beasts to be fair ...the bnp were ultra right and le front national are more centre right people often make the mistake of comparing them to each other because of the name. national front but that's where there similaritys end really.

 

Im talking about at that time.....the FN of 15 years ago was like our old NF under Tyndall it was far more extreme than the Bnp was its only in recent years its tamed down a bit......maybe because the French have a bit more of the " Rome wasnt built in a day " attitude unlike us who called our nationalist party a joke and dismissed them only to years later be all enthusiastic about the French having a nationalist party.......you couldnt make it up !!

[ChrisJones 7,975]

What do you think will happen?

That's the thing, mate. I honestly don't know. I've not lived in Europe for the best part of a decade so I'm viewing this from a distance.

 

I hear similar rhetoric over here... The sky is falling, [insert Whichever President Here] caused all of the problems we have, crime is out of control, tax the rich, sterilize the poor, etc etc...

 

The fact is we're living longer. Crime is at pre-1960's levels, and human beings in the developed world are having a pretty good run of it. It's hardly a utopia but if people switch off the television, and go outside, the problems don't seem to be as drastic. 24/7 broadcasted doom seems to be the real problem as we're all shit scared of whatever it is that pushes our buttons. There's always someone that seems to cater to terrifying us. It seems that everyone is so focused on the problem that no one really wants to work towards a solution. It would be better if, instead of drawing a line in the sand and throwing things over it, we accept the fact that not a single one of us agrees 100% but we're all in it together and we need to figure out what's best for everyone.

 

The election slogan is "Don't Be A Dick" if you can enact every policy with that mantra in mind we might make improvements instead of pointing fingers.

Edited April 18, 2017 by ChrisJones

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

What do you think will happen?

That's the thing, mate. I honestly don't know. I've not lived in Europe for the best part of a decade so I'm viewing this from a distance.

 

I hear similar rhetoric over here... The sky is falling, [insert Whichever President Here] caused all of the problems we have, crime is out of control, tax the rich, sterilize the poor, etc etc...

 

The fact is we're living longer. Crime is at pre-1960's levels, and human beings in the developed world are having a pretty good run of it. It's hardly a utopia but if people switch off the television, and go outside, the problems don't seem to be as drastic. 24/7 broadcasted doom seems to be the real problem as we're all shit scared of whatever it is that pushes our buttons. There's always someone that seems to cater to terrifying us. It seems that everyone is so focused on the problem that no one really wants to work towards a solution. It would be better if, instead of drawing a line in the sand and throwing things over it, we accept the fact that not a single one of us agrees 100% but we're all in it together and we need to figure out what's best for everyone.

 

The election slogan is "Don't Be A Dick" if you can enact every policy with that mantra in mind we might make improvements instead of pointing fingers.

 

 

People just want to be left alone to live their lives, have kids and maybe a house and a few nice bits and bobs but the powers that been haven't cared one tiny bit about what is best for the plebs. Immigration is a perfect example, since the 60s in Europe and the US there has been huge resistance about it but the governments just pushed on regardless, changed our countries beyond recognition and treated anyone who didn't like it (a large chunk of the population) as ignorant racist monsters who deserve to be mocked as backward and not enlightened...often they were the working classes who bore the brunt of mass immigration and suffered because of it.

 

Things may not seem bad now because they're still throwing borrowed round money like confetti and it will keep people quiet for a while but when it dries up there will be a big problem and that is coming in some countries especially like Greece and Spain where unemployment is destroying entire generations. Eventually the money will have to be paid back and many EU countries are never going to be able to do it which means civil unrest and the fractures in society that have always been bubbling under the surface will open up.

 

I believe that when our society was more or less homogeneous that we still did not agree on many things but we had a common nationality/ethnicity that bound us, now we have multiculturalism even that has been taken away.

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Still doesn't even attempt to solve the perceived problem though, does it?

 

Fingers get pointed and we capitalize on memes, and hastags. At some point we have to move away from the screens and actually do something other than being terrified.

[Nik_B 3,790]

Still doesn't even attempt to solve the perceived problem though, does it?

 

Fingers get pointed and we capitalize on memes, and hastags. At some point we have to move away from the screens and actually do something other than being terrified.

 

The EU cannot solve a mess that is part of it's ideology which is partly why I think it will collapse, the financial aspect just speeds it up.

 

They still refuse to use borders or send back all of those migrants that came in something that would have not needed one minute of thought 60 years ago. They will never take responsibility for what they have done, many of those rapes, murders and terror attacks that happened in Europe are a direct responsibility of their idiotic agenda.

 

The EU and liberal elites have got to go and be replaced by something else that puts European people first