Le Pen & The French Elections

[sandymere 8,263]

 

Or maybe the scientists want to remain in the EU because their jobs receive a lot of EU funding?

 

My reasons for leaving the EU is to give us the opportunity to cut immigration, save money by scrapping the UK's membership fee, have UK laws made in Westminster, and to allow the UK to set up trading agreements with whoever we like. I see no reason for the UK to discontinue cooperation or funding with European countries when it comes to security or scientific research.

Excatly pal, its all about the money.

 

Of course it is science is expensive but the pay back is the future.

The EU puts 8% of its budget into a multinational science programme called “Horizon 2020” (€80bn from 2014-2020).

Edited May 9, 2017 by sandymere

[Francie 6,368]

 

 

 

Or maybe the scientists want to remain in the EU because their jobs receive a lot of EU funding?

 

My reasons for leaving the EU is to give us the opportunity to cut immigration, save money by scrapping the UK's membership fee, have UK laws made in Westminster, and to allow the UK to set up trading agreements with whoever we like. I see no reason for the UK to discontinue cooperation or funding with European countries when it comes to security or scientific research.

Excatly pal, its all about the money.

Of course it is science is expensive but the pay back is the future.

Testable an observable, or theoretical?

[Onlyworkmatters 1,584]

 

 

 

 

The youth and the intelligent voted for Europe, much like the pro EU vote here. A strong EU is important as we will rejoin as the old twits who dragged us out die off.

 

Ooooooo, "the intelligent", why because they have a degree?

 

Or were they handing out IQ tests at the same time?

 

What scientists think

 

An open survey by CaSE/EPC in Dec 2015 found that 93% of research scientists and engineers thought that the EU was a “major benefit” to UK research.

 

None of the 132 vice-chancellors represented by Universities UK is advocating leaving.

 

The current and previous two Presidents of the Royal Society have spoken up for EU membership (Sir Venki Ramakrishnan, Sir Paul Nurse, Lord Martin Rees).

 

Nature magazine said in Feb 2016 “it is the view of this journal that science, in Britain and elsewhere, would benefit from the United Kingdom remaining as a committed member of the European team.”

 

UNESCO said in Nov 2015: “Were the Brexit to become a reality… the UK would lose its driving seat for research and innovation in the EU.”

 

Of 72 written submissions to the House of Lords inquiry into EU membership and UK science (published Jan 2016), only two advocate leaving the EU. Both are from campaign groups established to promote leaving the EU.

 

Scientists for EU, Feb 2016

 

 

I know very well what the scientific community think, I'm part of it! Referring to them as "the intelligent" is a bit pathetic, like intelligent people don't take up other professions.

 

Do you feel they are not intelligent?

 

 

Theyre a bunch of self serving b*****ds like 99% of europhiles

[Francie 6,368]

 

 

 

Or maybe the scientists want to remain in the EU because their jobs receive a lot of EU funding?

 

My reasons for leaving the EU is to give us the opportunity to cut immigration, save money by scrapping the UK's membership fee, have UK laws made in Westminster, and to allow the UK to set up trading agreements with whoever we like. I see no reason for the UK to discontinue cooperation or funding with European countries when it comes to security or scientific research.

Excatly pal, its all about the money.

Of course it is science is expensive but the pay back is the future.

The EU puts 8% of its budget into a multinational science programme called Horizon 2020 (80bn from 2014-2020).

Yeah, what are they studying, or trying to prove?

[Born Hunter 17,798]

 

 

 

 

The youth and the intelligent voted for Europe, much like the pro EU vote here. A strong EU is important as we will rejoin as the old twits who dragged us out die off.

 

Ooooooo, "the intelligent", why because they have a degree?

 

Or were they handing out IQ tests at the same time?

 

What scientists think

 

An open survey by CaSE/EPC in Dec 2015 found that 93% of research scientists and engineers thought that the EU was a “major benefit” to UK research.

 

None of the 132 vice-chancellors represented by Universities UK is advocating leaving.

 

The current and previous two Presidents of the Royal Society have spoken up for EU membership (Sir Venki Ramakrishnan, Sir Paul Nurse, Lord Martin Rees).

 

Nature magazine said in Feb 2016 “it is the view of this journal that science, in Britain and elsewhere, would benefit from the United Kingdom remaining as a committed member of the European team.”

 

UNESCO said in Nov 2015: “Were the Brexit to become a reality… the UK would lose its driving seat for research and innovation in the EU.”

 

Of 72 written submissions to the House of Lords inquiry into EU membership and UK science (published Jan 2016), only two advocate leaving the EU. Both are from campaign groups established to promote leaving the EU.

 

Scientists for EU, Feb 2016

 

 

I know very well what the scientific community think, I'm part of it! Referring to them as "the intelligent" is a bit pathetic, like intelligent people don't take up other professions.

 

Do I detect a straw man?? I didn't refer to them as intelligent, I referred to them as scientists, I did use them as examples of intelligent peoples and their opinions on a subject. Do you feel they are not intelligent?

 

 

If you're not using the scientist quote to justify your original statement what fecking relevance has it? LOL. No straw man at all.

 

You very clearly said "the intelligent", which I called you up on as unfounded. You then responded with that quote about the Uni survey of scientists. That just a random outburst then? Not relevant to what I called you up on?

 

Now there's a straw man! I make the assertion that intelligence isn't exclusive to the scientific community and you try to swing it that I don't think I'm intelligent! A f***ing fart would blow that one over.

[sandymere 8,263]

 

 

 

 

 

The youth and the intelligent voted for Europe, much like the pro EU vote here. A strong EU is important as we will rejoin as the old twits who dragged us out die off.

 

Ooooooo, "the intelligent", why because they have a degree?

 

Or were they handing out IQ tests at the same time?

 

What scientists think

 

An open survey by CaSE/EPC in Dec 2015 found that 93% of research scientists and engineers thought that the EU was a “major benefit” to UK research.

 

None of the 132 vice-chancellors represented by Universities UK is advocating leaving.

 

The current and previous two Presidents of the Royal Society have spoken up for EU membership (Sir Venki Ramakrishnan, Sir Paul Nurse, Lord Martin Rees).

 

Nature magazine said in Feb 2016 “it is the view of this journal that science, in Britain and elsewhere, would benefit from the United Kingdom remaining as a committed member of the European team.”

 

UNESCO said in Nov 2015: “Were the Brexit to become a reality… the UK would lose its driving seat for research and innovation in the EU.”

 

Of 72 written submissions to the House of Lords inquiry into EU membership and UK science (published Jan 2016), only two advocate leaving the EU. Both are from campaign groups established to promote leaving the EU.

 

Scientists for EU, Feb 2016

 

 

I know very well what the scientific community think, I'm part of it! Referring to them as "the intelligent" is a bit pathetic, like intelligent people don't take up other professions.

 

Do I detect a straw man?? I didn't refer to them as intelligent, I referred to them as scientists, I did use them as examples of intelligent peoples and their opinions on a subject. Do you feel they are not intelligent?

 

 

If you're not using the scientist quote to justify your original statement what fecking relevance has it? LOL. No straw man at all.

 

You very clearly said "the intelligent", which I called you up on as unfounded. You then responded with that quote about the Uni survey of scientists. That just a random outburst then? Not relevant to what I called you up on?

 

Now there's a straw man! I make the assertion that intelligence isn't exclusive to the scientific community and you try to swing it that I don't think I'm intelligent! A f***ing fart would blow that one over.

 

Of course I'm using it to back up my original statement, they are intelligent people are they not??

 

You seem a little touchy on the subject perhaps it would help if you explained what you actually do, what sort of scientist you are, physicist, chemist, biologist, geneticist etc.

[Born Hunter 17,798]

Of course I'm using it to back up my original statement, they are intelligent people are they not??

 

You seem a little touchy on the subject perhaps it would help if you explained what you actually do, what sort of scientist you are, physicist, chemist, biologist, geneticist etc.

 

So why on earth would you claim it's a straw man? You've just admitted using the second post to substantiate the first.

 

Touchy, no.

Enjoy pointing out to arrogant and bitter remainer peers who throw about the same "leavers are stupid" bullshit that it's bullshit, yes.

 

I'm a Physicist in industry. Not that it matters in the slightest.

[Nik_B 3,790]

They asked 400 researchers,

 

Which ones, what did they research and how were they chosen for the study?

 

I have come to the conclusion remainers and pro EU supporters fall in to two categories. One are just scared of change but the other group are simply selfish and greedy, they're all right jack and screw the millions of unemployed youth in Southern Europe who's futures have been stolen from them.

 

I find it quite disgusting actually, same with the pro immigration people, they don't care about the victims of rape or murder as long as they can virtue signal away to show how superior they are.

[sandymere 8,263]

 

Of course I'm using it to back up my original statement, they are intelligent people are they not??

 

You seem a little touchy on the subject perhaps it would help if you explained what you actually do, what sort of scientist you are, physicist, chemist, biologist, geneticist etc.

So why on earth would you claim it's a straw man? You've just admitted using the second post to substantiate the first.

 

Touchy, no.

Enjoy pointing out to arrogant and bitter remainer peers who throw about the same "leavers are stupid" bullshit that it's bullshit, yes.

 

I'm a Physicist in industry. Not that it matters in the slightest.

 

Yes because they are examples of intelligent people, do you not agree???

[Nik_B 3,790]

Intelligent people can be greedy and self serving Sandymere

 

Not all researchers are intelligent we would have to know what they are researchers of to make that deduction, I knew plenty of people who couldn't make it in the real world who became researchers some of them thicker than two short planks.

[kanny 20,669]

 

 

 

 

Of course I'm using it to back up my original statement, they are intelligent people are they not??

 

You seem a little touchy on the subject perhaps it would help if you explained what you actually do, what sort of scientist you are, physicist, chemist, biologist, geneticist etc.

 

So why on earth would you claim it's a straw man? You've just admitted using the second post to substantiate the first.

Touchy, no.

Enjoy pointing out to arrogant and bitter remainer peers who throw about the same "leavers are stupid" bullshit that it's bullshit, yes.

I'm a Physicist in industry. Not that it matters in the slightest.

Yes because they are examples of intelligent people, do you not agree???

They may be intelligent in there selected feild but that doesn't necessarily mean they have a handle on all things EU does it? I'd say far from it ...no offense BH your a exception in the nerd community lol

[Nik_B 3,790]

There is a third category, the rose tinted spectacle wearing eternal optimists, those people who have to believe that things will get always better...it's just feelings based on nothing, unless we have somehow transcended past the rules of history and economies this cannot be the case.

 

The next US recession will have devastating consequences for the Eurozone members. China will also suffer but they will survive, the UK will survive because we have an independent currency. It could happen within the next couple of years and the EU has still not solved it's problems.

[sandymere 8,263]

The future will be global, the next generation will be European

 

[sandymere 8,263]

 

 

 

Of course I'm using it to back up my original statement, they are intelligent people are they not??

 

You seem a little touchy on the subject perhaps it would help if you explained what you actually do, what sort of scientist you are, physicist, chemist, biologist, geneticist etc.

So why on earth would you claim it's a straw man? You've just admitted using the second post to substantiate the first.

Touchy, no.

Enjoy pointing out to arrogant and bitter remainer peers who throw about the same "leavers are stupid" bullshit that it's bullshit, yes.

I'm a Physicist in industry. Not that it matters in the slightest.

Yes because they are examples of intelligent people, do you not agree???

They may be intelligent in there selected feild but that doesn't necessarily mean they have a handle on all things EU does it? I'd say far from it ...no offense BH your a exception in the nerd community lol

 

I fear he may be a little isolated in the coffee room at lunch.

[Nik_B 3,790]