walshie 2,804 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 I think we're all agreed that some big cats were released into the wild all those years ago. The people that say they can't be here now use the "why hasn't a dead one been found" as their argument. Why hasn't a dead one from the 70s been found either? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,818 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Pretty sure Tiger are absolute masters of stealth, much like and even more so than Leopards. Lions though, are not, lol. They'd be mopped up on the lamp fairly quick over here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 You'd have thought our own Foxhounds would have put a few up but strangely no..... You'd have thought but then although they are basically right for the job in practice I could be persuaded that they would avoid such a foreign beasty. Now, those Biggerstaff hounds are born and bred Cougar/African Leopard hounds, those fuckers aren't bred to shy away from such quarry. From what I've seen of them on social media, they're as serious about hound work and hunting as anyone! "For us it begins and ends with the hounds. They are our life and our passion. Our breeding program is simple- best to the best. If a dog wont put his nose down or doesnt have the heart and grit to hunt day after day they dont make the cut, no matter how pretty they are. We do not raise registered hounds we raise working hounds. These are not show dogs they are hard working trained professionals who have made our living for the last 15 years." Any hounds that work in Zim' get my respect. I don't even mean if they tried to work it, surely there's a great chance they would have put one up whilst in pursuit of fox. I can accept that a few might have escaped or been released some years back but I just don't believe we have a population of now wild cats roaming our lands.How do you they haven't? I couldn't possibly tell either way.........too many packs, too many hounds, too many days to even begin to fathom what has happened on every hunting day & what stories have been told for the last 20 years. I don't want stories I want strong evidence to support the claims. If I knew of an area where a Big Cat was and my intentions were to confirm it I'd be buying the equipment to do so. Near enough every camera now is HD and plenty are 4K, these gadgets are not even expensive anymore. Walking the land with an old 1 MP camera just don't cut it I'm afraid and is nothing but a cop-out IMO. Good for you mate, for someone that is utterly convinced that cats are in no way roaming the British country side, you've spent along time on this thread? that's why I don't hang about on God threads! Haha.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Pretty sure Tiger are absolute masters of stealth, much like and even more so than Leopards. Lions though, are not, lol. They'd be mopped up on the lamp fairly quick over here. Yep, the Tiger is the most intelligent of all the Big Cats and is just as cunning as the Leopard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Pretty sure Tiger are absolute masters of stealth, much like and even more so than Leopards. Lions though, are not, lol. They'd be mopped up on the lamp fairly quick over here. If you're getting involved now, I'm out! Know it all...!! ;-) haha..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,818 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 I can now see why no one has shot one. I'd be needing a sit down if this Saturday morning I'm creeping about after a muntjac and a f***ing Tiger wonders through the nettles! No doubt in my mind if I could bring myself to some sort of sensible mental state I'd shoot it though. And frankly, if that ever did happen, wear it's hide like a Zulu for ever more! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EDDIE B 3,166 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 You'd have thought our own Foxhounds would have put a few up but strangely no..... You'd have thought but then although they are basically right for the job in practice I could be persuaded that they would avoid such a foreign beasty. Now, those Biggerstaff hounds are born and bred Cougar/African Leopard hounds, those fuckers aren't bred to shy away from such quarry. From what I've seen of them on social media, they're as serious about hound work and hunting as anyone! "For us it begins and ends with the hounds. They are our life and our passion. Our breeding program is simple- best to the best. If a dog wont put his nose down or doesnt have the heart and grit to hunt day after day they dont make the cut, no matter how pretty they are. We do not raise registered hounds we raise working hounds. These are not show dogs they are hard working trained professionals who have made our living for the last 15 years." Any hounds that work in Zim' get my respect. I don't even necessarily mean if they tried to work it, surely there's a great chance they would have put one up whilst in pursuit of fox. I can accept that a few might have escaped or been released some years back but I just don't believe we have a population of now wild cats roaming our lands. I suppose you got to ask yourself, what is acceptable as being a big cat. Will one of those jungle cats suffice? Not exactly a beast is it! Maybe a lynx, or has it gotta a be a Leopard? I suppose the first two ain't exactly "that shocking discovery" that will leave us all dumbfounded. The first two are seen as much more of a possibility, ain't they. Even when it comes to finding a mate and breeding. Chances are slim ain't they. But those jungle cats. Would they happily breed with a feral? If so, could some of the offspring come out pure black? A black cat, noticeably bigger than your normal moggy. To the normal Joe soap, if he saw one. What would he think it was? To me, this seems very plausible. Leopards etc, I'm not so convinced, but I'd like nothing more than to be proven wrong. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) We have Tigers in Africa so get them over here, why not I say..... We put up with terrorist attacks so bring em in, we can always light a candle and make a heart sign when a rambler is stripped to the bone..... ?? Edited April 28, 2017 by DogMan85 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 You'd have thought our own Foxhounds would have put a few up but strangely no..... You'd have thought but then although they are basically right for the job in practice I could be persuaded that they would avoid such a foreign beasty. Now, those Biggerstaff hounds are born and bred Cougar/African Leopard hounds, those fuckers aren't bred to shy away from such quarry. From what I've seen of them on social media, they're as serious about hound work and hunting as anyone! "For us it begins and ends with the hounds. They are our life and our passion. Our breeding program is simple- best to the best. If a dog wont put his nose down or doesnt have the heart and grit to hunt day after day they dont make the cut, no matter how pretty they are. We do not raise registered hounds we raise working hounds. These are not show dogs they are hard working trained professionals who have made our living for the last 15 years." Any hounds that work in Zim' get my respect. I don't even necessarily mean if they tried to work it, surely there's a great chance they would have put one up whilst in pursuit of fox. I can accept that a few might have escaped or been released some years back but I just don't believe we have a population of now wild cats roaming our lands.I suppose you got to ask yourself, what is acceptable as being a big cat. Will one of those jungle cats suffice? Not exactly a beast is it! Maybe a lynx, or has it gotta a be a Leopard? I suppose the first two ain't exactly "that shocking discovery" that will leave us all dumbfounded. The first two are seen as much more of a possibility, ain't they. Even when it comes to finding a mate and breeding. Chances are slim ain't they. But those jungle cats. Would they happily breed with a feral? If so, could some of the offspring come out pure black? A black cat, noticeably bigger than your normal moggy. To the normal Joe soap, if he saw one. What would he think it was? To me, this seems very plausible. Leopards etc, I'm not so convinced, but I'd like nothing more than to be proven wrong. If you want to get really technical even a Cougar doesn't cut it as a Big Cat. ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,818 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Pretty sure Tiger are absolute masters of stealth, much like and even more so than Leopards. Lions though, are not, lol. They'd be mopped up on the lamp fairly quick over here. If you're getting involved now, I'm out! Know it all...!! ;-) haha..... But interestingly I believe I'm right in saying that Lions did used to roam this island! So basically it'd just be a reintroduction of a once native species! LOL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panthera_leo_spelaea 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Pretty sure Tiger are absolute masters of stealth, much like and even more so than Leopards. Lions though, are not, lol. They'd be mopped up on the lamp fairly quick over here.If you're getting involved now, I'm out! Know it all...!! ;-) haha..... But interestingly I believe I'm right in saying that Lions did used to roam this island! So basically it'd just be a reintroduction of a once native species! LOL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panthera_leo_spelaea Even Bigger than the African Lion so they will be a piece of cake. ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,902 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 I can now see why no one has shot one. I'd be needing a sit down if this Saturday morning I'm creeping about after a muntjac and a f***ing Tiger wonders through the nettles! No doubt in my mind if I could bring myself to some sort of sensible mental state I'd shoot it though. And frankly, if that ever did happen, wear it's hide like a Zulu for ever more! lol,,,,shaka sheldon.... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 You'd have thought our own Foxhounds would have put a few up but strangely no..... You'd have thought but then although they are basically right for the job in practice I could be persuaded that they would avoid such a foreign beasty. Now, those Biggerstaff hounds are born and bred Cougar/African Leopard hounds, those fuckers aren't bred to shy away from such quarry. From what I've seen of them on social media, they're as serious about hound work and hunting as anyone! "For us it begins and ends with the hounds. They are our life and our passion. Our breeding program is simple- best to the best. If a dog wont put his nose down or doesnt have the heart and grit to hunt day after day they dont make the cut, no matter how pretty they are. We do not raise registered hounds we raise working hounds. These are not show dogs they are hard working trained professionals who have made our living for the last 15 years." Any hounds that work in Zim' get my respect. I don't even mean if they tried to work it, surely there's a great chance they would have put one up whilst in pursuit of fox. I can accept that a few might have escaped or been released some years back but I just don't believe we have a population of now wild cats roaming our lands.How do you they haven't? I couldn't possibly tell either way.........too many packs, too many hounds, too many days to even begin to fathom what has happened on every hunting day & what stories have been told for the last 20 years. I don't want stories I want strong evidence to support the claims. If I knew of an area where a Big Cat was and my intentions were to confirm it I'd be buying the equipment to do so. Near enough every camera now is HD and plenty are 4K, these gadgets are not even expensive anymore. Walking the land with an old 1 MP camera just don't cut it I'm afraid and is nothing but a cop-out IMO.Good for you mate, for someone that is utterly convinced that cats are in no way roaming the British country side, you've spent along time on this thread? that's why I don't hang about on God threads! Haha.... "I like Big Cats and I can not lie"..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 Well I for one am interested in what socks says when he sees this footage. I find it hard to believe Greyman is going to drive a hundred miles to try and convince socks his footage of a stray moggy is in fact a cougar. Surely not? He must think he's got something?? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted April 28, 2017 Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 (edited) You'd have thought our own Foxhounds would have put a few up but strangely no..... You'd have thought but then although they are basically right for the job in practice I could be persuaded that they would avoid such a foreign beasty. Now, those Biggerstaff hounds are born and bred Cougar/African Leopard hounds, those fuckers aren't bred to shy away from such quarry. From what I've seen of them on social media, they're as serious about hound work and hunting as anyone! "For us it begins and ends with the hounds. They are our life and our passion. Our breeding program is simple- best to the best. If a dog wont put his nose down or doesnt have the heart and grit to hunt day after day they dont make the cut, no matter how pretty they are. We do not raise registered hounds we raise working hounds. These are not show dogs they are hard working trained professionals who have made our living for the last 15 years." Any hounds that work in Zim' get my respect. I don't even necessarily mean if they tried to work it, surely there's a great chance they would have put one up whilst in pursuit of fox. I can accept that a few might have escaped or been released some years back but I just don't believe we have a population of now wild cats roaming our lands.I suppose you got to ask yourself, what is acceptable as being a big cat. Will one of those jungle cats suffice? Not exactly a beast is it! Maybe a lynx, or has it gotta a be a Leopard? I suppose the first two ain't exactly "that shocking discovery" that will leave us all dumbfounded. The first two are seen as much more of a possibility, ain't they. Even when it comes to finding a mate and breeding. Chances are slim ain't they. But those jungle cats. Would they happily breed with a feral? If so, could some of the offspring come out pure black? A black cat, noticeably bigger than your normal moggy. To the normal Joe soap, if he saw one. What would he think it was? To me, this seems very plausible. Leopards etc, I'm not so convinced, but I'd like nothing more than to be proven wrong. If you want to get really technical even a Cougar doesn't cut it as a Big Cat. You've said that a few times on this thread now, are you covering yourself?......."ah well, it wasn't technically a big cat, I was right all along........." Haha.... Edited April 28, 2017 by Accip74 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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