Lidle Find

[jiggy 3,209]

If a poacher ran a deer with dogs and removed the haunchs holding the bulk of the meat. He would have a good old chuckle to himself when the rest half chewed by foxes ends up on the front page of the local newspaper as a cat that ate it in one sitting. Kills don't mean much as undisputed proof. Proper footage not from 300 yards on recognised uk soil or a cat hanging on a hook by the feet will. Or a captured live cat. Again I've no problem believing that big cats have roamed uk soil that's fact not myth if one jumps over a zoo wall and walks off into the forest then myth confirmed, it has happened loads of times. Can they meet up with the lottery chance of another escaped cat of the same species and of the opposite sex in an unsuitable climate in a small heavily populated country and create a couple of generations of a breeding population without been noticed, without wiping out a large part of a herd of sheep to feed 4 three quarter grown cubs.That myth is at the moment is still busted until somebody comes up with the genuine goods. Greyman I'd be delighted if your the one to prove it because you sound genuine but you've a big hill to climb.

[Accip74 7,112]

If a poacher ran a deer with dogs and removed the haunchs holding the bulk of the meat. He would have a good old chuckle to himself when the rest half chewed by foxes ends up on the front page of the local newspaper as a cat that ate it in one sitting. Kills don't mean much as undisputed proof. Proper footage not from 300 yards on recognised uk soil or a cat hanging on a hook by the feet will. Or a captured live cat. Again I've no problem believing that big cats have roamed uk soil that's fact not myth if one jumps over a zoo wall and walks off into the forest then myth confirmed, it has happened loads of times. Can they meet up with the lottery chance of another escaped cat of the same species and of the opposite sex in an unsuitable climate in a small heavily populated country and create a couple of generations of a breeding population without been noticed, without wiping out a large part of a herd of sheep to feed 4 three quarter grown cubs.That myth is at the moment is still busted until somebody comes up with the genuine goods. Greyman I'd be delighted if your the one to prove it because you sound genuine but you've a big hill to climb.

Makes sense, but what a fascinating hill to climb, eh?

[jiggy 3,209]

 

If a poacher ran a deer with dogs and removed the haunchs holding the bulk of the meat. He would have a good old chuckle to himself when the rest half chewed by foxes ends up on the front page of the local newspaper as a cat that ate it in one sitting. Kills don't mean much as undisputed proof. Proper footage not from 300 yards on recognised uk soil or a cat hanging on a hook by the feet will. Or a captured live cat. Again I've no problem believing that big cats have roamed uk soil that's fact not myth if one jumps over a zoo wall and walks off into the forest then myth confirmed, it has happened loads of times. Can they meet up with the lottery chance of another escaped cat of the same species and of the opposite sex in an unsuitable climate in a small heavily populated country and create a couple of generations of a breeding population without been noticed, without wiping out a large part of a herd of sheep to feed 4 three quarter grown cubs.That myth is at the moment is still busted until somebody comes up with the genuine goods. Greyman I'd be delighted if your the one to prove it because you sound genuine but you've a big hill to climb.

Makes sense, but what a fascinating hill to climb, eh?

As long as it's an enjoyable journey you'd get to see a lot of other stuff on the way.?

[Greyman 28,875]

 

 

If a poacher ran a deer with dogs and removed the haunchs holding the bulk of the meat. He would have a good old chuckle to himself when the rest half chewed by foxes ends up on the front page of the local newspaper as a cat that ate it in one sitting. Kills don't mean much as undisputed proof. Proper footage not from 300 yards on recognised uk soil or a cat hanging on a hook by the feet will. Or a captured live cat. Again I've no problem believing that big cats have roamed uk soil that's fact not myth if one jumps over a zoo wall and walks off into the forest then myth confirmed, it has happened loads of times. Can they meet up with the lottery chance of another escaped cat of the same species and of the opposite sex in an unsuitable climate in a small heavily populated country and create a couple of generations of a breeding population without been noticed, without wiping out a large part of a herd of sheep to feed 4 three quarter grown cubs.That myth is at the moment is still busted until somebody comes up with the genuine goods. Greyman I'd be delighted if your the one to prove it because you sound genuine but you've a big hill to climb.

Makes sense, but what a fascinating hill to climb, eh?

As long as it's an enjoyable journey you'd get to see a lot of other stuff on the way.

one reason the carcasses make a good case is because cats have very distinct cutting teeth at the back called carnasal teeth ( spelling?) and were they cut the ribs along the spine it leaves a distinct W shaped cut mark and a lot of people are now taking more notice of this and the pit marks they leave on bones as its very easily identifiable, lastly you are right about it being an enjoyable journey as I love all things countryside from little birds upwards and I get to see lots of things on the cameras that I would never see otherwise and it gives the dogs lots of good walks, it's all hunting really just for a photo of a non excistance beast,

[gnasher16 30,297]

Also I don't belive the stories were someone's slipped some dogs and they've come running back with no contact! The story were the dogs were barking at it are more believable . The jury is still undecided as far as I'm concerned.

I find that hard to take as well......i know nature can be unpredictable like that but amongst all the posturing are both a dog and cat going to go against all their natural instincts and just call it a draw in some sort of Mexican standoff....bit hard to picture like.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fukcing cockney who wouldn't know a cow if it took a shit in his car telling me I don't know my arse from my elbow ... cheeky fukcer ... right I am no big cat expert even though I have seen a fair few of all different breeds in the wild BUT I do know what lives in the British countryside and I'm sure I can tell a big cat from a fukcing hedgehog lol .......

" right I am no big cat expert ".......was the point i was making........if i want to know something about my car engine im not going to ask a plasterer !

 

Besides which what do you know about big cats the only time you,ve seen a big pussy was a sticky fumbling in the hay shed with Big Bridget all them years ago.

 

However Cushty your miles off with all this.......if Socks says he,ll be in a certain place at a certain time then he,ll stand on and be there.......he is certainly at least half a div i agree with you...... but he,s straight down the line and reliable

Cocks ain't reliable

Listen cockrot I don't know what your sudden fascination with trying to abuse me is but you have a track record of failing to turn up and everybody on here seen it for themselves when you came up with excuse after excuse not to meet me to cough up the grand for a bet ... or have you forgotten that ......

Forgotten it cocks

 

Please tell me you didnt give it the old " we didnt shake on it " move after losing a bet did you ......that against the rules once your in long trousers !

[beast 1,884]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4432748/Killer-big-cat-fears-brutally-butchered-deer-found.html

This might be just a coincidence but there is a private big cats breeding facility at Wheathampstead where this deer was found.

 

I mentioned it a few pages ago

[Greyman 28,875]

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4432748/Killer-big-cat-fears-brutally-butchered-deer-found.html

This might be just a coincidence but there is a private big cats breeding facility at Wheathampstead where this deer was found.

I mentioned it a few pages ago

. I think

that cats in captivity will attract ones in at certain times of the year I mentioned many pages ago that a few zoos have found footprints in the flower beds outside of the cages also the ostrich that was killed inside its enclosure that I know of after something cleared the two electric fences around it I guess the noises and smells may ring a dinner bell or the smell of a on heat female or they may of just lost one and don't want to tell anyone I think that goes on as well

Edited April 23, 2017 by Greyman

[Francie 6,368]

 

 

 

Hey lab if you do find yourself up here. Go to the highland widlife park they have a wildcat enclosure.There about half dozen of them. Not a big fan of cats but these fuckers are worth checking out.

They are doing great work in saving the species.

The guy was telling me there breeding with feral cats and the offspring is mistaken for the real deal.

There f***ing quite big those wildcats. Watch every move you make aswell lol

Here's one that was killed on the road in the late 80's.

 

 

Their was suppose to be a lot of very big ferals seen over the years, in the same location as this lad was found. So interbreeding maybe?

Holy feck eddie, thats identical to a big fooking cat my wee lurcher bitch caught in the donegal hills about ten year ago, small tail same colour, an it was a great catch, good battle but pepper prevailed, amazing

Im no expert, but think one of the more distinguishing features of the jungle cats is those tufts of hair on top of the ears. If they were present, then maybe you had something special.

 

Funny enough, myself and a mate had a very similar experience. Maybe twenty odd year ago. (Probably more) What we noticed was not just the size of the feral, but the actual length. Both the total length, and also the length of the legs. It was different, that's for sure.

 

Such a pity we didn't carry camera's or phones back then.

I had a picture on mine phone but i lost the phone out hunting lol

 

I didnt check the ears mate,but it was huge, my bitch was 22inchs an it wasnt far off her size lol good tussle mate.

[timmy k 591]

To get back onto the dogs running off bit. Has anybody seen Swiss family Robinson? Where the 2 great Danes they had kept going after a tiger and having a running battle. Now I'm not saying it wasn't a tame tiger but the Danes probably didn't know that and they still went in for a scrap, Against a tiger not some poxy leopard added to that these were great Danes, not the gamest of dogs even when the film was made.

[Accip74 7,112]

To get back onto the dogs running off bit. Has anybody seen Swiss family Robinson? Where the 2 great Danes they had kept going after a tiger and having a running battle. Now I'm not saying it wasn't a tame tiger but the Danes probably didn't know that and they still went in for a scrap, Against a tiger not some poxy leopard added to that these were great Danes, not the gamest of dogs even when the film was made.

A poxy leopard?? Haha..... Aren't they pound for pound the most formidable cats out there? I could be wrong, but poxy?

[timmy k 591]

I don't follow that pound for pound stuff. An ant can carry many times its own weight but if I stand on it it gets squished

[Accip74 7,112]

I don't follow that pound for pound stuff. An ant can carry many times its own weight but if I stand on it it gets squished

Ok good luck with a leopard then.....haha

[scothunter 12,609]

 

 

 

Another cat kill report in St. Albans it's on the Mail on line site if anyone wants to have a look or put a link up, also I,d like to apologise to socks, seems his integrity is now beig brought under scrutiny for agreeing to veiw the footage,

No need to apologise to me mate as I've stated I will be fair and say the truth regarding what I see ... the people off here that have met me know I will say it as it is ......

I'm looking forward to your opinion .If it's great footage you don't need to be a expert

sadly it's not the greatest footage it's at night when the camera is in black and white but it's clear enough to know what your looking at, truth be told there are no real experts in this subject just a few enthusiastic amateurs as its a mythical creature that some believe and many don't, I have had the pics looked at by a few people that I would consider expert in the subject and I can show socks the replys I have had back from them as well if it helps

I mean absouletly no disrespect greyman as i actually like you're posts.

However so this proof is going to be just another grainy pic that might or might not be what you claim it to be. I actually thought you had some hard evidence and that was the reason of you're reluctance to post it on the site.

 

I dont see why you dont just post it if its "not the best pic" save socks a journey.

but guess thats you're call .

[beast 1,884]

 

 

 

Hey lab if you do find yourself up here. Go to the highland widlife park they have a wildcat enclosure.There about half dozen of them. Not a big fan of cats but these fuckers are worth checking out.

They are doing great work in saving the species.

The guy was telling me there breeding with feral cats and the offspring is mistaken for the real deal.

There f***ing quite big those wildcats. Watch every move you make aswell lol

Here's one that was killed on the road in the late 80's.

 

 

Their was suppose to be a lot of very big ferals seen over the years, in the same location as this lad was found. So interbreeding maybe?

Holy feck eddie, thats identical to a big fooking cat my wee lurcher bitch caught in the donegal hills about ten year ago, small tail same colour, an it was a great catch, good battle but pepper prevailed, amazing

Im no expert, but think one of the more distinguishing features of the jungle cats is those tufts of hair on top of the ears. If they were present, then maybe you had something special.

 

Funny enough, myself and a mate had a very similar experience. Maybe twenty odd year ago. (Probably more) What we noticed was not just the size of the feral, but the actual length. Both the total length, and also the length of the legs. It was different, that's for sure.

 

Such a pity we didn't carry camera's or phones back then.

There was or maybe still is a population of black cats living in parts of Scotland and they were calling them Kellas cats. These were very long and lean and long limbed almost like a serval or Caracal shape. They did a load of dna work on them and proved they were a mix of domestic and Scottish wild cat nothing else in the mix but they were very different to either pure bred species

[beast 1,884]

A couple of points here.

Bodies: how often do you find a dead fox or badger or deer? Not very often. Now consider an analternative much rarer probably more shy and probably not so keen to come close to human habitation and it doesn't surprise me if there are no bodies

 

Roaring/calling: do you know what a puma sounds like? Have you heard a leopard roaring? It is often described as a cough not a roar. It actually sounds like somebody sawing a big timber board with a long saw. I have no idea what a jaguar roar sounds like but there have been very few imports of jaguars and they are simply too rare and precious especially black ones to be allowed to be running at large. Realistically we can discount jags if there are really wild big cats in uk

 

Escapes: zoos are inspected by local authorities every year. All animals are logged on an international database called ZIMS and it is not possible really to hide what animals are on site. There are severe penalties for falsifying information and I do not believe any zoo would get away with covering up escapes in this day and age although this definitely happened in times gone by. Private collections also get inspected and although Not as strict as zoo inspections they simply wouldn't get away with a cover up.