What Adds More Drive Into A Lurcher Beddy Or Collie?

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,840]

 

 

 

Totally different temperaments

I've never seen bull crosses destroyed as they physically cannot handle change of ownership

I wouldn't like to see a mal cross after a year and a half of rudimentary training and two walks a day

 

i dont really know what ur trying to say,is it ur saying that dutch and maile crosses cant handle the change of ownership.if so i never meintioned that.

Sorry just seen this , not sure what mals etc people have or what wonderous skills they own at training but 3 times I have seen dogs being shot for being man biters or untrustworthy around new handlers

Each one was a pure bred mal and these were not isolated occurrences , they are put down a lot more regular than you would believe,

Personally I think adding a breed Like to the lurcher roundabout is a ticking bomb

your original point is in ur own words is that mali or dutch x cant handle the change of ownership of new owners.my point is why would they have to change owners.surley ur not thinking of selling the dog or giving it away simply because one cant handle this highly intellegent bidibil x.were not talking about full malis or dutch this was never part of ur original post.i will leave it at that i dont want to hogg the topic.

Last word,,,,,,why would they change owners?

 

Some people really do not understand the average lurcher world or owner at times

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,840]

Again

 

The average lurcher man doesn't spend 8 hrs a day training or socialising his charge

 

Nor does he want to

 

They are a niche breed for a select few , the idea of them being widely bred for lurchers is a bit sickening for me

 

They can do nothing a collie can't with half the bother of owning

[stonewall 1,913]

 

 

 

 

Totally different temperaments

I've never seen bull crosses destroyed as they physically cannot handle change of ownership

I wouldn't like to see a mal cross after a year and a half of rudimentary training and two walks a day

i dont really know what ur trying to say,is it ur saying that dutch and maile crosses cant handle the change of ownership.if so i never meintioned that.

Sorry just seen this , not sure what mals etc people have or what wonderous skills they own at training but 3 times I have seen dogs being shot for being man biters or untrustworthy around new handlers

Each one was a pure bred mal and these were not isolated occurrences , they are put down a lot more regular than you would believe,

Personally I think adding a breed Like to the lurcher roundabout is a ticking bomb

your original point is in ur own words is that mali or dutch x cant handle the change of ownership of new owners.my point is why would they have to change owners.surley ur not thinking of selling the dog or giving it away simply because one cant handle this highly intellegent bidibil x.were not talking about full malis or dutch this was never part of ur original post.i will leave it at that i dont want to hogg the topic.

Last word,,,,,,why would they change owners?

 

Some people really do not understand the average lurcher world or owner at times

 

very interesting coment u just made. saying that some people really do not understand the average lurcher world or owner at times.please enlighten me and a lot of other responsible lurcher owners on this site.remember to be very carfull with what u print.off u go

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,840]

There seems to be an almost gun dog esque click whom seem to hold training , etc in high regard

 

For the vast majority of owners, I would say , none of this even crosses there mind

 

They get a dog rear it use it to kill stuff

 

If it retrieves or comes back , bonus

 

Every street in every council estate has lads like that

 

Where does the mal fit in there?

[Penda 3,341]

Ha ha ha hasn't this topic gone off topic one minute we,re on about beddy xs and collie xs next things it's onto Mali xs and council estates ha ha

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Ha ha ha hasn't this topic gone off topic one minute we,re on about beddy xs and collie xs next things it's onto Mali xs and council estates ha ha

 

Such is the Internet Forum,...and that is why,...ye cannot really,.'talk dawgs'.....

[terryd 8,411]

Going back to the original post I would have thought hunting up a lot is a good thing ? Had a lurcher as a kid that just used it eyes and i don't think it new what its nose was for. Fine for lamping but useless during the day on its own

[straight2hand 303]

always turns into bull vs collie some how? It is all about the right blend at the end of the day; guts and guile are both needed in an all round working dog and thats besides the point it must be very fast!!! I suppose in the end were all after an Einstein terrier x and a collie with a massive set of bollox

Edited April 15, 2017 by straight2hand

[Penda 3,341]

 

Ha ha ha hasn't this topic gone off topic one minute we,re on about beddy xs and collie xs next things it's onto Mali xs and council estates ha ha

 

Such is the Internet Forum,...and that is why,...ye cannot really,.'talk dawgs'.....

very true it's all the more entertaining every bodies got there own opinions on what they want to get out of a dog and it's always interesting to see

[Penda 3,341]

I've always looked for what they call natural ability some dogs need a lot of work putting in them with recall retrieving etc etc and some dog just do with out knowing there doing it now years back I bred a litter of pups they were collie grey saluki grey to b a beddy grey I kept 2 out the litter dog and bitch now from day one the bitch was obidient athletic she was catching bunnies from 6mth old I sold her to a mate at 11mth old only because I never had room for her and her bro and the dog was my moms favourite any way the dog was jack he had good recall was sort of athletic but he didn't know what retrieve meant I'm not to fussed about retrieving aslong as they don't decide to run round the field with the bunny like its a flag,in the end he turned out a good foxing dog but I wished I'd of kept his sister sometimes God knows why I sold her she had what I called natural ability my mate who had her wouldn't keep her fit and she,d catch more bunnies then my dogs

[Shaddy93 840]

Would never entertain a collie x for drive, owned beddy crosses they can make handy dogs in the right hands a mate of mine use to have a half cross beddy whippet he was as hard as they come only stood at 21tts real sticky type seen him in some right messes pre ban never Hurd him make a murmur, however lacked in size and strength compared to a bull cross

[springfield 20]

Some good replies. It looks like the beddy is more favoured. Malamute only good for towing the game bag home in the snow

[ginger beard 4,652]

Some good replies. It looks like the beddy is more favoured. Malamute only good for towing the game bag home in the snow

different mal i think.

[billhardy 2,342]

 

 

Totally different temperaments

I've never seen bull crosses destroyed as they physically cannot handle change of ownership

I wouldn't like to see a mal cross after a year and a half of rudimentary training and two walks a day

i dont really know what ur trying to say,is it ur saying that dutch and maile crosses cant handle the change of ownership.if so i never meintioned that.

Sorry just seen this , not sure what mals etc people have or what wonderous skills they own at training but 3 times I have seen dogs being shot for being man biters or untrustworthy around new handlers

Each one was a pure bred mal and these were not isolated occurrences , they are put down a lot more regular than you would believe,

Personally I think adding a breed Like to the lurcher roundabout is a ticking bomb

. The same was said about pits and there xes like most all types they fall in to wrong hands plus bad breeding fecking poor temperaments evironment etc. And I'll tell thee fa nought when breeding f1s of any type the othe half has big say in the outcome. You have seen animals shot etc,so have I pits xes etc,training any animal his a must and yes some see training there jukels the rude mines of field work only there objective that's there peogative, others prefer abit more controll etc if the animal possesses the acquired level of iq to achieve these levels ,and fa the matter if where one puts down there bones a estate a field a mountain has no bearing on the matter.only a fool would judge a man a woman on there ability with there jukels no matter where he from I'll stick to what I know and that be from experience etc those that Cana do a high drive type keep a fecking whippet or has some do a doldrums fecking slouch that only moves when the lead or food bowls presented Never judge all by a select few ,I have a alsation bitch xs grey that took me by the thigh when around ten mths old she still with me now trained to a decent level if I had shot her more fool would I have been a good handler sees the route of the moment and sorts the problem and the reason for it ,the bitch has special qualities I rank highly in a canine and one don't come across to often.atbbunnys.

[billhardy 2,342]

Who the f**k in their right minds would put a mal cross in the hands of a regular lurcher man?

Probably the most dangerous dog in the world?

the same regular commensense lurchermen that have top of the line bull dog blood in their lurchers.[/quote all fecking dogs a dangerous and there good blood bad blood in all man makes the good but also the bad through either breeding environment handling or a combination of these .atb bunnys.