neil cooney 10,416 Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 I've never seen or used thermal but is it any worse than up until lately the same lads giving out about it have for the last half century laced the countryside with poison and wiped out every carnivore, omnivore and bird of prey in their county. Lads ask how come bird of prey and pine Martin numbers have rocketed in the last 20 years? Well it's for no other reason than since setting poison has been made illegal most are afraid of a jail sentence if they,re caught setting it. Night vision has replaced strychnine. IMO the reason the Pine Marten and the Buzzard are now at troublesome levels is because of artificial releases. All that anti propaganda about certain species being driven to the brink by blood thirsty gamekeepers stems from the days of intensive shooting estates. Name 10 large shooting estates in Ireland ? Could you name 5 ? The truth is there's very few gamkeepers in Ireland. The truth is that the Irish landscape has never ,until recently, been suitable for a lot of these species. But now with help from forestry subsidies you have the wildlife departments releasing artificial numbers into a countryside that can't feed these numbers. Blaming the sporting fraternity for the rarity of these species is the perfect excuse for those who want a Walt Disney type Irish countryside and it's a pity people are silly enough to believe it. 3 Quote Link to post
Haiddheliwr 1,911 Posted April 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 I've never seen or used thermal but is it any worse than up until lately the same lads giving out about it have for the last half century laced the countryside with poison and wiped out every carnivore, omnivore and bird of prey in their county. Lads ask how come bird of prey and pine Martin numbers have rocketed in the last 20 years? Well it's for no other reason than since setting poison has been made illegal most are afraid of a jail sentence if they,re caught setting it. Night vision has replaced strychnine. IMO the reason the Pine Marten and the Buzzard are now at troublesome levels is because of artificial releases.All that anti propaganda about certain species being driven to the brink by blood thirsty gamekeepers stems from the days of intensive shooting estates. Name 10 large shooting estates in Ireland ? Could you name 5 ? The truth is there's very few gamkeepers in Ireland. The truth is that the Irish landscape has never ,until recently, been suitable for a lot of these species. But now with help from forestry subsidies you have the wildlife departments releasing artificial numbers into a countryside that can't feed these numbers. Blaming the sporting fraternity for the rarity of these species is the perfect excuse for those who want a Walt Disney type Irish countryside and it's a pity people are silly enough to believe it. The brown crow is a major pain in the a**e Neil on a small pheasant shoot of which I am a member! 2 Quote Link to post
jiggy 3,209 Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 I've never seen or used thermal but is it any worse than up until lately the same lads giving out about it have for the last half century laced the countryside with poison and wiped out every carnivore, omnivore and bird of prey in their county. Lads ask how come bird of prey and pine Martin numbers have rocketed in the last 20 years? Well it's for no other reason than since setting poison has been made illegal most are afraid of a jail sentence if they,re caught setting it. Night vision has replaced strychnine. IMO the reason the Pine Marten and the Buzzard are now at troublesome levels is because of artificial releases.All that anti propaganda about certain species being driven to the brink by blood thirsty gamekeepers stems from the days of intensive shooting estates. Name 10 large shooting estates in Ireland ? Could you name 5 ? The truth is there's very few gamkeepers in Ireland. The truth is that the Irish landscape has never ,until recently, been suitable for a lot of these species. But now with help from forestry subsidies you have the wildlife departments releasing artificial numbers into a countryside that can't feed these numbers. Blaming the sporting fraternity for the rarity of these species is the perfect excuse for those who want a Walt Disney type Irish countryside and it's a pity people are silly enough to believe it. I wouldn't put all the blame on shooters.In that case would you be in favour of reintroducing strychnine? I know a lot of the sporting fraternity who lost dogs because of it out rough shooting or bushing from bitter cnuts who didn't want them on certain land. Quote Link to post
Shovel shy 4,033 Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Some lads down this way in a certain gun club got a lot of hunting stopped. Digging aswell. They hate lads hunting gun club land. But I've permission in a lot of these places. And they hate it. Often pulled up on a Sunday morning to find two sometimes three dead foxes on a gate. From these sporting rifle men Quote Link to post
Fieldsporthunter 1,864 Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Heat seeking bullets next lol Quote Link to post
Haiddheliwr 1,911 Posted April 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Heat seeking bullets next lol they are only around the corner! Was reading an article about them basically it doesn't matter where you point the rifle the round seeks out the target! Frightening! Quote Link to post
Fieldsporthunter 1,864 Posted April 16, 2017 Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Heat seeking bullets next lol they are only around the corner! Was reading an article about them basically it doesn't matter where you point the rifle the round seeks out the target! Frightening!Nice Quote Link to post
Haiddheliwr 1,911 Posted April 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2017 Heat seeking bullets next lol they are only around the corner! Was reading an article about them basically it doesn't matter where you point the rifle the round seeks out the target! Frightening!Nice lol 1 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 I've never seen or used thermal but is it any worse than up until lately the same lads giving out about it have for the last half century laced the countryside with poison and wiped out every carnivore, omnivore and bird of prey in their county. Lads ask how come bird of prey and pine Martin numbers have rocketed in the last 20 years? Well it's for no other reason than since setting poison has been made illegal most are afraid of a jail sentence if they,re caught setting it. Night vision has replaced strychnine.IMO the reason the Pine Marten and the Buzzard are now at troublesome levels is because of artificial releases.All that anti propaganda about certain species being driven to the brink by blood thirsty gamekeepers stems from the days of intensive shooting estates. Name 10 large shooting estates in Ireland ? Could you name 5 ? The truth is there's very few gamkeepers in Ireland. The truth is that the Irish landscape has never ,until recently, been suitable for a lot of these species. But now with help from forestry subsidies you have the wildlife departments releasing artificial numbers into a countryside that can't feed these numbers. Blaming the sporting fraternity for the rarity of these species is the perfect excuse for those who want a Walt Disney type Irish countryside and it's a pity people are silly enough to believe it. The brown crow is a major pain in the a**e Neil on a small pheasant shoot of which I am a member! Around here in a morning shooting we used to see maybe 5 or 6 or more Buzzards but now it's more likely I'll see 1 or 2. I reckon they've moved on because of the lack of Rabbits. There were 1000s of them around here but thanks to the RHD (stick it up your ass FD ) we now have 2 or 3 rabbits here and there. And the Buzzard has become scarce. As a result we had a great shooting season and our pheasants stayed on the land whereas the few years before the Buzzards just kept harassing them non stop and the Pheasants just kept running. A few years ago if I was hunting in Cork the Buzzard was obvious by it's absence. The Cork boys never seen them. When I was in Cork beagling a few weeks back I seen 3. They must be releasing them down there too. Another downside to the RHD is that this year the Fox seems to be breeding well but with no Rabbits they're looking elsewhere. As for the Pine Martens ? We have them in towns now. Did the nasty keepers wipe them out of our towns years ago or is that where the ignorant's are releasing them now ? 1 Quote Link to post
WEDGEY 753 Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) . Edited April 17, 2017 by WEDGEY Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 No wonder there's no hares and the other fraternity Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 I've just read on another forum that there's a very good chance that in the next while lamping might be outlawed here in Ireland between the months of September and March. I have very mixed opinions on this . Quote Link to post
tinytiger 827 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Seems to be a lot of anti lamping sentiment in ireland at present-not helped by I.C.C either Quote Link to post
Shovel shy 4,033 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 I've just read on another forum that there's a very good chance that in the next while lamping might be outlawed here in Ireland between the months of September and March. I have very mixed opinions on this . between September and March or March n September. Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 You better get some thermal then Neil for the off season lol. Quote Link to post
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