dogmad riley 1,343 Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 23 hours ago, Boss-Hog said: you get fallow buck that's been around and seen dogs it will deff open some peoples eyes especialywiv their deer dogs, regular buck dog different class A fallow buck in prime condition is a task for any dog definitely alot harder than a roe. Roe certainly can shift but they don't have much fight once caught. The fallow buck on the other hand can shift and has the power to knock a dog out of the way. Iv seen them turn around on the dog and have ago, they certainly opened my eyes. Never ran a red stag, don't think I would entertain one for the sake of the dog 2 Quote Link to post
Greb147 6,809 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13614824/tributes-paid-hunstman-ger-withers-cork-stag/?utm_campaign=sunmainfacebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1609442990 This is what we are working with here, one's thing is for sure if you're a known hunter you will get no sympathy should you be killed. Quote Link to post
dogmad riley 1,343 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 On 17/12/2020 at 19:43, SheepChaser said: I’d think there’s been a few dogs killed by such animals. I had my deerhound threw about 3m in the air by a fallow, he turned around faced her then got her in his antlers and just threw her like she was nothing Quote Link to post
Shadow100 1,066 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Greb147 said: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13614824/tributes-paid-hunstman-ger-withers-cork-stag/?utm_campaign=sunmainfacebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1609442990 This is what we are working with here, one's thing is for sure if you're a known hunter you will get no sympathy should you be killed. Pet/Park deer far more dangerous, after they lose their fear of humans. Although I have known someone to be charged by a wild sika stag. 1 Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,353 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 They're strong animals fallow bucks, I seen one break a strand of thick metal wire on a new fence when his antlers hit it Quote Link to post
Gavo 81 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 I’d love to see a dog single handed do one of them IMO I don’t think any dog in open land would hold one bull greyhounds game as can be and like dinosaurs three of them couldn’t do it not going to happen Quote Link to post
Shadow100 1,066 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Gavo said: I’d love to see a dog single handed do one of them IMO I don’t think any dog in open land would hold one bull greyhounds game as can be and like dinosaurs three of them couldn’t do it not going to happen You mean a southern one or just any red stag? Edited January 1, 2021 by Shadow100 Quote Link to post
Shadow100 1,066 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, Gavo said: Red stags Both southern & highland can and have been done with 2 dogs. When it comes to highland stags as well bull greyhounds definitely aren’t the dogs for the job. I think if you had the right dog on the day, and the stag was far enough away from woodland it could be done on the hills single handed, but I’ve never known it to be done yet so can’t say it definitely can be. 1 Quote Link to post
Darnsouthcharlie 6 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 53 minutes ago, Shadow100 said: Both southern & highland can and have been done with 2 dogs. When it comes to highland stags as well bull greyhounds definitely aren’t the dogs for the job. I think if you had the right dog on the day, and the stag was far enough away from woodland it could be done on the hills single handed, but I’ve never known it to be done yet so can’t say it definitely can be. What your personal experience of this do you have .A dog able to do them doubled up the now? It would be interesting to here you sound very knowledgeable in this field. Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,242 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Need a dog to run it down tyre it Quote Link to post
Gavo 81 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 I’ve seen old hunts were hounds run them down then bigger dogs hold them but all the ones I’ve seen as always been in cover never seen or heard of dogs holding them out in fields or stopping them on a run as in lamping them Quote Link to post
Shadow100 1,066 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, Gavo said: I’ve seen old hunts were hounds run them down then bigger dogs hold them but all the ones I’ve seen as always been in cover never seen or heard of dogs holding them out in fields or stopping them on a run as in lamping them Never seen it in fields mate but up Scottish highlands it’s all done on open hill so plenty space for a pair of dogs to chip away at it if they’ve got enough heart & stamina to stay on. Quote Link to post
Shadow100 1,066 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 43 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Need a dog to run it down tyre it Only way it’ll be done, even with the hinds you hear stories of dogs yanking them off their feet but that’s all they are, fairytales. Quote Link to post
Gypsydog94 4,561 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 58 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Need a dog to run it down tyre it There is called hounds Quote Link to post
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