Gas Attack In Syria..genocide

[kanny 21,013]

I have a personal policy I dont believe a fecking word that comes out of any politicians mouth no matter what side they are from. The last two months Trump it has been alledged Putin won the election for his bessy mate Trump, also the billions dollar business deals made by people Trump incorporated into his Government now all of a sudden as if by a mircle the two main players are daggers drawn ,is it Fake News or alternative facts take your pick. The main one with a history of using banned weapons is America cluster mines, Napalm and Mustard Gas in Vietnam oh and even a couple of Atomic bombs dropped for good measure on Japan. Putin/Assad I would not put f**k all past Putin and Assad nor trust f**k all the "Coalition of Saudia and Western forces say. I know the chemical weapons Sadam had in 1979 to use against Iran, the Khurds and the Marsh Arabs were supplied by GB and France thats why Blair was so sure he had them. Asad has had civil war for 7 years hes not got the facility to manufacture large amounts of nothing.Arms and munitions to both sides are being supplied from \a common source and the Saud money masters are involved so . Let those who claim to be observant work things out. All i see are ordinary innocent folk being used as collateral damage .

Cheers db ... I struggle to see how people can be taken in by this BS anymore tbh ..how many times does Joe public have to have the wool pull over there eyes before they wake up to it all ...I guess whilst there playing with there new I.phone they don't have to think about the real stuff to much ..people on the whole I think don't care as long as there alright Jack!

[lanesra 3,994]

I have a personal policy I dont believe a fecking word that comes out of any politicians mouth no matter what side they are from. The last two months Trump it has been alledged Putin won the election for his bessy mate Trump, also the billions dollar business deals made by people Trump incorporated into his Government now all of a sudden as if by a mircle the two main players are daggers drawn ,is it Fake News or alternative facts take your pick. The main one with a history of using banned weapons is America cluster mines, Napalm and Mustard Gas in Vietnam oh and even a couple of Atomic bombs dropped for good measure on Japan. Putin/Assad I would not put f**k all past Putin and Assad nor trust f**k all the "Coalition of Saudia and Western forces say. I know the chemical weapons Sadam had in 1979 to use against Iran, the Khurds and the Marsh Arabs were supplied by GB and France thats why Blair was so sure he had them. Asad has had civil war for 7 years hes not got the facility to manufacture large amounts of nothing.Arms and munitions to both sides are being supplied from \a common source and the Saud money masters are involved so . Let those who claim to be observant work things out. All i see are ordinary innocent folk being used as collateral damage .

Isnt it always the innocent folk though mate . . The politicians & mms treat us like f****n mushrooms , keep us in the dark & feed us shit !!

[bird 10,012]

I have a personal policy I dont believe a fecking word that comes out of any politicians mouth no matter what side they are from. The last two months Trump it has been alledged Putin won the election for his bessy mate Trump, also the billions dollar business deals made by people Trump incorporated into his Government now all of a sudden as if by a mircle the two main players are daggers drawn ,is it Fake News or alternative facts take your pick. The main one with a history of using banned weapons is America cluster mines, Napalm and Mustard Gas in Vietnam oh and even a couple of Atomic bombs dropped for good measure on Japan. Putin/Assad I would not put f**k all past Putin and Assad nor trust f**k all the "Coalition of Saudia and Western forces say. I know the chemical weapons Sadam had in 1979 to use against Iran, the Khurds and the Marsh Arabs were supplied by GB and France thats why Blair was so sure he had them. Asad has had civil war for 7 years hes not got the facility to manufacture large amounts of nothing.Arms and munitions to both sides are being supplied from \a common source and the Saud money masters are involved so . Let those who claim to be observant work things out. All i see are ordinary innocent folk being used as collateral damage .

do you think if trump , does more air strikes , that russia will intervene and go head to head with usa .?? maybe the start of a 3rd WW and bring us in to it .? , not nuclear war, but conventional war .

[desertbred 5,490]

do you think if trump , does more air strikes , that russia will intervene and go head to head with usa .?? maybe the start of a 3rd WW and bring us in to it .? , not nuclear war, but conventional war .

 

Politics always has and always will make for strange bedfellows. Putin is intelligent and politically streets ahead of Trump. Look at Trumps number of failed legislatory cock ups in the two months hes in the seat. The Congress and Senate will reign him in before he creates a cauldron world wide that no one will control. so the answer is it wont happen.

Edited April 7, 2017 by desertbred

[Nik_B 3,790]

Well I've almost calmed down I do apologise for getting annoyed

 

I'm not going to lie I was horrified to see what happened yesterday, there was a massive campaign raging on Twitter, many of the big pro Trump Youtubers & trolls who were responsible in a large part for getting him elected were doing what they could to stop this madness and then in the early hours of the morning they just launched the attack. Honestly I was enraged as were many other supporters, he has done exactly the opposite of what he has said many times and that is a red line for a lot of people.

 

I think this just goes to show that he is not in full control, he has made a 180 degree change in direction on his foreign policy promises, the Obama supporters would be wise to think on that because they often claimed the same thing when Obama was in 'power'.

 

I've been consistent on foreign wars my entire life, the Falklands was was justified in my opinion as we were defending British territory but I have never supported the Middle East wars and will never change my mind regardless of who is in power.

 

Unless some kind of deal was struck with Russia (and I pray there was) then this was an unbelievably reckless act, in Syria there are Chinese and Russian advisors not to mention the many thousands of Iranian troops and military advisors and this could have (or may even still) have very serious consequences. It looks like Russia continues to be pushed in to a corner and eventually they are going to react if they are not treated with respect, the Iranians could also respond if pushed too far.

 

I expected more from Trump and many see this as a huge betrayal from him.

[riohog 5,799]

Well I've almost calmed down I do apologise for getting annoyed

 

I'm not going to lie I was horrified to see what happened yesterday, there was a massive campaign raging on Twitter, many of the big pro Trump Youtubers & trolls who were responsible in a large part for getting him elected were doing what they could to stop this madness and then in the early hours of the morning they just launched the attack. Honestly I was enraged as were many other supporters, he has done exactly the opposite of what he has said many times and that is a red line for a lot of people.

 

I think this just goes to show that he is not in full control, he has made a 180 degree change in direction on his foreign policy promises, the Obama supporters would be wise to think on that because they often claimed the same thing when Obama was in 'power'.

 

I've been consistent on foreign wars my entire life, the Falklands was was justified in my opinion as we were defending British territory but I have never supported the Middle East wars and will never change my mind regardless of who is in power.

 

Unless some kind of deal was struck with Russia (and I pray there was) then this was an unbelievably reckless act, in Syria there are Chinese and Russian advisors not to mention the many thousands of Iranian troops and military advisors and this could have (or may even still) have very serious consequences. It looks like Russia continues to be pushed in to a corner and eventually they are going to react if they are not treated with respect, the Iranians could also respond if pushed too far.

 

I expected more from Trump and many see this as a huge betrayal from him.

maybe i just dont understand the way things work ,does trump have ultimate power to make these dissisions on his own .or like blighty is there due proccess before they order a strike .or who is pushing his buttons?

[Accip74 7,112]

Well I've almost calmed down I do apologise for getting annoyed

 

I'm not going to lie I was horrified to see what happened yesterday, there was a massive campaign raging on Twitter, many of the big pro Trump Youtubers & trolls who were responsible in a large part for getting him elected were doing what they could to stop this madness and then in the early hours of the morning they just launched the attack. Honestly I was enraged as were many other supporters, he has done exactly the opposite of what he has said many times and that is a red line for a lot of people.

 

I think this just goes to show that he is not in full control, he has made a 180 degree change in direction on his foreign policy promises, the Obama supporters would be wise to think on that because they often claimed the same thing when Obama was in 'power'.

 

I've been consistent on foreign wars my entire life, the Falklands was was justified in my opinion as we were defending British territory but I have never supported the Middle East wars and will never change my mind regardless of who is in power.

 

Unless some kind of deal was struck with Russia (and I pray there was) then this was an unbelievably reckless act, in Syria there are Chinese and Russian advisors not to mention the many thousands of Iranian troops and military advisors and this could have (or may even still) have very serious consequences. It looks like Russia continues to be pushed in to a corner and eventually they are going to react if they are not treated with respect, the Iranians could also respond if pushed too far.

 

I expected more from Trump and many see this as a huge betrayal from him.

I don't doubt your concerns, they are very real, but I'm amazed you honestly expected more from trump or surprised he wouldn't be influenced in some way. I honestly don't know what to make of it all, but I never doubted trump wouldn't bend accordingly......

[Nik_B 3,790]

As reported in the Turkish newspaper Zaman in 2015, this newspaper was seized by the Turkish authorities and taken over in 2016.

 

The short version is that two Turkish MPs claimed to have evidence that Sarin gas was carried out by ISIS and that the Sarin originated from Turkey.

 

https://www.memri.org/reports/turkeys-main-opposition-party-chp-accuses-akp-government-crimes-against-humanity-says-2013

[twobob 1,497]

 

Well I've almost calmed down I do apologise for getting annoyed

 

I'm not going to lie I was horrified to see what happened yesterday, there was a massive campaign raging on Twitter, many of the big pro Trump Youtubers & trolls who were responsible in a large part for getting him elected were doing what they could to stop this madness and then in the early hours of the morning they just launched the attack. Honestly I was enraged as were many other supporters, he has done exactly the opposite of what he has said many times and that is a red line for a lot of people.

 

I think this just goes to show that he is not in full control, he has made a 180 degree change in direction on his foreign policy promises, the Obama supporters would be wise to think on that because they often claimed the same thing when Obama was in 'power'.

 

I've been consistent on foreign wars my entire life, the Falklands was was justified in my opinion as we were defending British territory but I have never supported the Middle East wars and will never change my mind regardless of who is in power.

 

Unless some kind of deal was struck with Russia (and I pray there was) then this was an unbelievably reckless act, in Syria there are Chinese and Russian advisors not to mention the many thousands of Iranian troops and military advisors and this could have (or may even still) have very serious consequences. It looks like Russia continues to be pushed in to a corner and eventually they are going to react if they are not treated with respect, the Iranians could also respond if pushed too far.

 

I expected more from Trump and many see this as a huge betrayal from him.

maybe i just dont understand the way things work ,does trump have ultimate power to make these dissisions on his own .or like blighty is there due proccess before they order a strike .or who is pushing his buttons?

 

depends who you believe but at the end of the day it gets dark

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

I don't doubt your concerns, they are very real, but I'm amazed you honestly expected more from trump or surprised he wouldn't be influenced in some way. I honestly don't know what to make of it all, but I never doubted trump wouldn't bend accordingly......

 

 

I always had a sneaking suspicion that the people were being given a pyrrhic victory (like Brexit), let us feel like we won and then carry on as usual but I hoped and prayed he would be the real thing because the vision he laid out would have been a fantastic one in my opinion and not just the US for the world as a whole. A lot of people got behind Trump because they saw Clinton as a Warmonger.

 

I've never really believed Presidents and PMs have much power in the grand scheme of things but it was nice to dream for a while.

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

maybe i just dont understand the way things work ,does trump have ultimate power to make these dissisions on his own .or like blighty is there due proccess before they order a strike .or who is pushing his buttons?

 

 

You would think that military action should be voted on in Congress, seems like they don't like to bother with such details these days.

[riohog 5,799]

 

 

maybe i just dont understand the way things work ,does trump have ultimate power to make these dissisions on his own .or like blighty is there due proccess before they order a strike .or who is pushing his buttons?

 

 

You would think that military action should be voted on in Congress, seems like they don't like to bother with such details these days.

 

so the next air strike will take off from raf akratiri dont be shocked ,stranger things have happend //

[kanny 21,013]

You have to remember nik that trump is the front man of the band but we all know its the drummer who keeps everything in time and in this case I'd say the drummer was mad dog ..just because there's a new president it doesn't mean all the previous polices made go out the window as trump has found out recently .now Obama brought in the red line policy and didn't back it up making America look week so trump didn't have much choice but to act on this one ...and I will say again this is all based on taking things at face value which personally I'm not ive became very disillusioned with the whole lot tbh .I said at the very start of this thred its all smoke and mirrors from all sides.

[Accip74 7,112]

 

I don't doubt your concerns, they are very real, but I'm amazed you honestly expected more from trump or surprised he wouldn't be influenced in some way. I honestly don't know what to make of it all, but I never doubted trump wouldn't bend accordingly......

 

I always had a sneaking suspicion that the people were being given a pyrrhic victory (like Brexit), let us feel like we won and then carry on as usual but I hoped and prayed he would be the real thing because the vision he laid out would have been a fantastic one in my opinion and not just the US for the world as a whole. A lot of people got behind Trump because they saw Clinton as a Warmonger.

 

I've never really believed Presidents and PMs have much power in the grand scheme of things but it was nice to dream for a while.

Trump is a marketing man, that surely shouldn't of escaped most? I don't have the deep knowledge to articulate a real understanding of what's happened, but if there is no deal with Russia & Assad didn't authorise a chemical attack, then what are we left with? Another corrupt administration or a president desperate for ratings??

[Nik_B 3,790]

You have to remember nik that trump is the front man of the band but we all know its the drummer who keeps everything in time and in this case I'd say the drummer was mad dog ..just because there's a new president it doesn't mean all the previous polices made go out the window as trump has found out recently .now Obama brought in the red line policy and didn't back it up making America look week so trump didn't have much choice but to act on this one ...and I will say again this is all based on taking things at face value which personally I'm not ive became very disillusioned with the whole lot tbh .I said at the very start of this thred its all smoke and mirrors from all sides.

 

Indeed, As far as I am concerned the Sarin attack was the most obvious hoax most likely ordered by the good old CIA & carried out by Saudi/Qatari proxies, they've effectively forced Trump to act because if he doesn't he will look even weaker than Obama.

 

There should have been an investigation, chemical samples, autopsies and most importantly collected the fragments of the delivery system whether it be a bomb or rocket, those fragments don't just vanish into thin air after releasing the gas.