kanny 20,914 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I've noticed this with the BBC radio news quite alot they say some unsubstantiated claim they don't make a big noise about it but just drop it in there... Drip drip drip... Believing all the lies that there telling ya.. Buying all the products that there selling ya They say jump and you say how high Your brain dead You got a bullet in your head! Wake up! I think they've got inside your head mate, what if it's a double bluff? What if Assad doesn't even exist? OMG!!! Turn off the radio!!!! Haha....It's to late for me... Save yourselves! Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I've noticed this with the BBC radio news quite alot they say some unsubstantiated claim they don't make a big noise about it but just drop it in there... Drip drip drip... Believing all the lies that there telling ya.. Buying all the products that there selling ya They say jump and you say how high Your brain dead You got a bullet in your head! Wake up! I think they've got inside your head mate, what if it's a double bluff? What if Assad doesn't even exist? OMG!!! Turn off the radio!!!! Haha....It's to late for me... Save yourselves! Lol There's no hope for me either, I listen to radio 4 most days!!! I'm fcuked! :-( 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Just a reminder that not even Assad or Russia are claiming this was a false flag by the rebels or America, their claim is that it was the result of regime airstrikes hitting a rebel chemical weapon store, a story which was almost instantly discredited because an airstrike hitting a store of sarin would destroy it not disperse it.What a load of shit, so a bomb hitting or hitting nearby a gas container cannot release said gas? Pull your head out your arse. How come your so eager to lap certain propaganda up yet so cynical about other facts? You have no more idea what's happened than anyone else.You have summed up perfectly why I am always extremely suspicious of bgd's posts 'so eager to lap certain propaganda up yet so cynical about other facts' I wish I could have worded it so well sometimes... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AXUM 255 Posted April 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Well non of us know what happens in the chemicak reaction between t*n*t and the gas .. or if it would burn from high heat temp or would it make no difference Leave this to the chemists Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Just a reminder that not even Assad or Russia are claiming this was a false flag by the rebels or America, their claim is that it was the result of regime airstrikes hitting a rebel chemical weapon store, a story which was almost instantly discredited because an airstrike hitting a store of sarin would destroy it not disperse it.What a load of shit, so a bomb hitting or hitting nearby a gas container cannot release said gas? Pull your head out your arse. How come your so eager to lap certain propaganda up yet so cynical about other facts? You have no more idea what's happened than anyone else. Because sarin is an incredibly volatile agent that would be vaporised by an airstrike. I base my opinion on the available evidence, show me some real evidence it was a false flag and not an attack carried out by the regime and I'll change my opinion. I don't care whether it was Assad or the rebels it's just that at the moment it seems most likely it was Assad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) Just a reminder that not even Assad or Russia are claiming this was a false flag by the rebels or America, their claim is that it was the result of regime airstrikes hitting a rebel chemical weapon store, a story which was almost instantly discredited because an airstrike hitting a store of sarin would destroy it not disperse it.What a load of shit, so a bomb hitting or hitting nearby a gas container cannot release said gas? Pull your head out your arse. How come your so eager to lap certain propaganda up yet so cynical about other facts? You have no more idea what's happened than anyone else.its typical liberal left tactics that he uses all the time keep on repeating your lies often enough until people believe you then if that fails scream and shout and create more lies, just look how well they have taken brexit, and trump, if remain and Hillary had won they would all be very quiet right now stroking there lentils and the rest of us would have accepted it and moved on, in there lovely cuddly world it's easier to believe a lie than accept that we are just empire building again by causing massive instabilityYou've basically made this exact post a few times and it never stops being hilarious seeing just how wrong you are :laugh: Just to help you out I voted for Brexit and was overjoyed when Hillary lost Is Trump part of the liberal left now seeing as he's been repeating the lie that Assad was behind the attack? Edited April 6, 2017 by BGD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) Just a reminder that not even Assad or Russia are claiming this was a false flag by the rebels or America, their claim is that it was the result of regime airstrikes hitting a rebel chemical weapon store, a story which was almost instantly discredited because an airstrike hitting a store of sarin would destroy it not disperse it.What a load of shit, so a bomb hitting or hitting nearby a gas container cannot release said gas? Pull your head out your arse. How come your so eager to lap certain propaganda up yet so cynical about other facts? You have no more idea what's happened than anyone else.Because sarin is an incredibly volatile agent that would be vaporised by an airstrike. I base my opinion on the available evidence, show me some real evidence it was a false flag and not an attack carried out by the regime and I'll change my opinion. I don't care whether it was Assad or the rebels it's just that at the moment it seems most likely it was Assad. So this incredibly volatile substance that would without question be destroyed by an airstrike has been delivered in an airstrike exploded and spread the gas but in no way could shrapnel from a conventional airstrike hit a container and released it because it would instantly vapourise (turn to gas?) Sounds like you've sussed it pal Edited April 6, 2017 by JDHUNTING Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,923 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 any wonder our gas prices are going through the roof. fs syrias blew the roofs off Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,914 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 any wonder our gas prices are going through the roof. fs syrias blew the roofs off Well if they can get Assad out the way and run there pipe line through Syria it might be cheaper lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Just a reminder that not even Assad or Russia are claiming this was a false flag by the rebels or America, their claim is that it was the result of regime airstrikes hitting a rebel chemical weapon store, a story which was almost instantly discredited because an airstrike hitting a store of sarin would destroy it not disperse it.What a load of shit, so a bomb hitting or hitting nearby a gas container cannot release said gas? Pull your head out your arse. How come your so eager to lap certain propaganda up yet so cynical about other facts? You have no more idea what's happened than anyone else.Because sarin is an incredibly volatile agent that would be vaporised by an airstrike. I base my opinion on the available evidence, show me some real evidence it was a false flag and not an attack carried out by the regime and I'll change my opinion. I don't care whether it was Assad or the rebels it's just that at the moment it seems most likely it was Assad. So this incredibly volatile substance that would without question be destroyed by an airstrike has been delivered in an airstrike exploded and spread the gas but in no way could shrapnel from a conventional airstrike hit a container and released it because it would instantly vapourise (turn to gas?) Sounds like you've sussed it pal They don't just have massive drums of sarin lying around, it's what's known as a binary chemical agent meaning two relatively harmless precursors are mixed together to create sarin when the weapons are deployed. If a piece of shrapnel pierced the containers you would get a localised leak of the precursors, not a widespread dispersal of sarin. Here's a good thorough debunking of the claims coming from Russia by people who actually know what they're talking about. http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-explanation-for-syria-chemical-weapons-attack-2017-4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 ^^^This assumes that the sarin would have been stored in a binary state. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) ^^^This assumes that the sarin would have been stored in a binary state. It always has been before in Syria so that's a safe assumption to make, it's just the usual way of dealing with these agents. Edited April 6, 2017 by BGD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Sounds like a false flag attack by the jihadists to drum up international support against Assad, seeing they're getting their arsed handed to them at the moment. Who knows? But it's certainly being pushed hard in the media,I don't usually watch TV but have done recently,most the reports say 'suspected chemical attack',but they're not even entertaining the idea it was anyone but Assad. Who seems to have randomly decided to gas a load of civilians at this critical moment in his country's history. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) Just a reminder that not even Assad or Russia are claiming this was a false flag by the rebels or America, their claim is that it was the result of regime airstrikes hitting a rebel chemical weapon store, a story which was almost instantly discredited because an airstrike hitting a store of sarin would destroy it not disperse it.What a load of shit, so a bomb hitting or hitting nearby a gas container cannot release said gas? Pull your head out your arse. How come your so eager to lap certain propaganda up yet so cynical about other facts? You have no more idea what's happened than anyone else.Because sarin is an incredibly volatile agent that would be vaporised by an airstrike. I base my opinion on the available evidence, show me some real evidence it was a false flag and not an attack carried out by the regime and I'll change my opinion. I don't care whether it was Assad or the rebels it's just that at the moment it seems most likely it was Assad. So this incredibly volatile substance that would without question be destroyed by an airstrike has been delivered in an airstrike exploded and spread the gas but in no way could shrapnel from a conventional airstrike hit a container and released it because it would instantly vapourise (turn to gas?) Sounds like you've sussed it pal They don't just have massive drums of sarin lying around, it's what's known as a binary chemical agent meaning two relatively harmless precursors are mixed together to create sarin when the weapons are deployed. If a piece of shrapnel pierced the containers you would get a localised leak of the precursors, not a widespread dispersal of sarin. Here's a good thorough debunking of the claims coming from Russia by people who actually know what they're talking about. http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-explanation-for-syria-chemical-weapons-attack-2017-4 The business insider news paper the number 1 source for unbiased chemical weapons info The attack may or may not have been Assad, the fact is neither me nor you have a clue. My point is that you and others start quoting clearly bollocks reporting because it fits your view and argument to the point that whenever the truth does appear objective people like myself will still not believe it as were jaded by all the lies were constantly fed. I made my mind up at the very beginning of this Syrian saga years ago when i saw Assad in an interview, i saw what i believed to be a fairly straight bloke in a suit who was educated in the UK and openly asked for help from the west against a bunch of bearded religious nuts, i immediately hoped we would back him and nothing has changed my view. I, unlike you no doubt, never bought the heroic freedom fighter spiel we were being sold by the press and shortly after when they started kidnapping westerners and chopping their heads off i was proved right. I won't post any news stories to back what i say up as it isn't news it's just people's opinions and i make my own opinions based on what i see with my own eyes. Edited April 6, 2017 by JDHUNTING 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 The Business Insider quoting experts on chemical weapons, at least I actually cite sources I haven't seen a single one from you Sounds like you're the one with a strongly held view looking for anything to confirm if for you pal. Personally I've got no real opinion one way or the other on Syria, both sides have committed their share of atrocities. I'm certainly not in favour of a Western lead invasion and rehashing of the last Iraq war over there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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