Rother Valley

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Each to their own mate but I'd rather concentrate on the job in hand be that a seasoned worker or first year entry .Dogs wound up for any reason is not my thing at all and any noise just serves to give you away .Many lads been rumbled with terriers whining on couples and barking on the breakthrough .

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

My terriers are and always have been quiet when tied on a dig FD, that is a real pet hate I have, dogs that are wild in their boxes and wild chained up have usually had very little socialisation.

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

Maybe they've had no discipline then.

[dillydog 8,463]

Come and disciplin this ginger b*****d of mine, he's not wired up right  

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

On 14/11/2018 at 18:49, dillydog said:

Come and disciplin this ginger b*****d of mine, he's not wired up right  

I'm not having that Dilly, yours are as sensible as they come (usually).

Edited November 16, 2018 by Rabbit Hunter

[Apache... 2,588]

I wouldn't take any other dog to a dig other than the dog your going to dig, it doesn't serve any purpose I know where RH is coming from but all the rearing etc should be done away from a dig, when there ready to go a train could go past them and they shouldn't flinch.

[dytkos 17,784]

Any young dogs I have, lurchers or terriers are taken out and allowed to be around whatevers happening, they learn to behave to the situation, part of schooling/socialising/education. No drama.

Cheers, D.

[Mixedgrill 704]

4 hours ago, foxdropper said:

Your making yourself look a twat mate .Are you seriously saying there's no self entering terriers about or you just on the wind up .I've never egged a dog in let alone hole ended it .Plenty of stuff here self entering .

You seriously telling me that you take a young terrier from your yard and it works first time ??  No schooling at all 

[Mixedgrill 704]

4 hours ago, foxdropper said:

Each to their own mate but I'd rather concentrate on the job in hand be that a seasoned worker or first year entry .Dogs wound up for any reason is not my thing at all and any noise just serves to give you away .Many lads been rumbled with terriers whining on couples and barking on the breakthrough .

Watery cuut

[downsouth 7,216]

53 minutes ago, Mixedgrill said:

You seriously telling me that you take a young terrier from your yard and it works first time ??  No schooling at all 

If a well bred pup gets plenty of time out in the country running about and hunting up and learning to use its nose it should ne able to enter on its own without needing to ne tied up on an earth listening to another dog working. ive had and seen plenty do it Ive even had them surprise me and do it before i thought they would.

[steve66 3,397]

always enjoyed rother valley shows , met some good lads and I know they came out on quite afew rescues  in south yorks 

Shame theve folded , but I cant help feel if they'd been more pro active in recruiting new members theyd still be going 

[Mixedgrill 704]

6 hours ago, downsouth said:

If a well bred pup gets plenty of time out in the country running about and hunting up and learning to use its nose it should ne able to enter on its own without needing to ne tied up on an earth listening to another dog working. ive had and seen plenty do it Ive even had them surprise me and do it before i thought they would.

I know that's true chum and fair play 

But Brian Plummer  (FD) ON the other hand is full of shit 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

9 hours ago, Mixedgrill said:

Watery cuut

Thought you were  going to ignore me and not read any more drivel.lol .

Can you explain  schooling please ,I'm genuinely out my depth there .

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

In my experience on the subject ,the entering of a terrier should be carried out casually ,no fuss no winding the dog up .Each to their own but it's no coincidence the best terriers come from the  most laid back lads .Socialising ,obedience and generally getting out on a bit of mouching all leads up to the day when breeding is expected to shine through and nothing you can do from that day on ,apart from treating  them well and what they are shown  ,will influence how that terrier turns out. 

Those that havnt self entered of mine have been very few and were very noticeable in every day life leading up to entering ..

Take the young terrier to an earth collared up and let him wander not geeing him up on the first hole you want him to go in .It's never bothered me that the first few times may have been uneventful because I know just by watching the dog that his time  will come..

I want a dog to enter confidently on its own ,to want it ,not through any intervention of my own .

Get this right and you are on the road to breeding good stock ,only in my humble opinion of course .

[dillydog 8,463]

Spot on FD, don't follow that reply up because it can't be bettered. 

I mooch around the stream behind my house with every pup I have, from 8 weeks old upwards they're given free reign to piss about and take it all in. At 8 month old upwards I'll let them walk over earth's (on a lead) just to see if they mark it. Maybe it won't be the first earth, maybe it won't be the first day, but within a few earth's or days I'll guarantee they'll be marking strong desperate to get in and investigate the smell that's firing their curiosity.  I NEVER take a pup onto a dig, every single terrier I enter enters naturally on its own,  no excuse,  no encouragement.  It doesn't always go to plan, we're talking about entering,  not working,  some are God given naturals, some are thick as shit and some take a season to put it all together. .............the joys of terrier work and the stuff that sorts terrier men from cannon fodder

 

Edited because my phone didn't like to say "piss" 

Edited November 16, 2018 by dillydog