Dogs In Tribes

[mroak 130]

Just wondering if anyone one here could share any knowledge on the dogs you see in tribe documentarys used for hunting and for guarding villages and live stock.

 

quite often they seem to be some sort of lurcher are these ancient breeds of some kind or random Mongols that have been traded in the past an have bred .

 

If some of these tribes have only just come into contact with outside humans in the last 100 years but have had dogs for many years before are they ancien breeds thats DNA could be traced back to ancient drawings.

 

Any information on it is good as I find it instresting or /book recommendation/ TV programme

[roybo 2,873]

They are just dogs that have bred on there own ,they are the same in most parts of the world pariah dogs ,same as dingos.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pariah_dog

[neems 2,406]

They descend from different types of wolves too.

 

http://www.caninest.com/types-of-wolf/

 

If you look for the Ethiopian wolf it's believed sighthounds originate from them,but then you get collies racier than them who probably descend entirely from the much bigger and more powerfully built grey wolf,so selective breeding probably comes into it.

 

Dogs that guard and are a bit quicker and don't range too far will be more valued and live longer,they'd probably eat the useless ones.

[Dan McDonough 560]

Well, there's sure a lot of different kinds of curs out there. I think you could devote quite a large amount of time to this and just scratch the surface. Best to travel around and have a look. You could have quite a time of it just driving around checking out local dogs in the Ozark region of the USA. The line of hounds I run was developed by a man named John Clark. In the Ozarks he was just known as Clark. He used to drive around the region with a fat wad of cash looking for exceptional locating treedogs. He was partial to a mostly black (with some small white points) family of dogs the locals called Black Diamond Curs. The locals called them that because they wanted a dressed up name for when the outsiders came around looking to buy a dog. They could charge a little higher price for a type of dog with a name like that. The thing was, those Black Diamond Curs had the goods to back up the claims. Anyhow, they were great dogs and they were found by a smart character with a tank full of gas and a wad of cash. The same can be done today in that area and many other areas of the country. You just got to know where to go.

 

I don't think that most of the hounds in the USA are what a lot of folks over there are looking for but many of the types of cur dogs would be pretty fun over there. The hounds are mostly open on track but most of the curs are silent on track and only bark treed. With a garmin, you don't really need them to bark treed either once you can read what your dog is up to on the garmin. A man can put a lot of game away with a dog like that and no one the wiser.

 

We have Mtn. Curs, Kemmer Curs, Stephens Curs, Black Mouthed Curs, Treeing Brindles, several kinds of feists, Canadian Curs, etc., etc., etc. There are many more sublines. Game getting little sons of bitches! You can check most of them out on the net. I have a Kemmer that's a great dog. Silent on track and more sand than the Saharah.

 

The nice thing about the curs in the USA is that they were bred for hunting things that you have to hunt and not some monkey you'll only see in a zoo. Also, there are boat loads of them and they are not expensive. I could go on and on about them. I knew many of the original men that formed the various cur registries and brought many of the cur fanciers together back in the 60's and 70's, though most of those men are dead now. I've got piles of yearbooks and have been to all of the big hunts. I still go once in a while and those hunts are still going on, not legislated out of existence like what you folks have going on over there. There's a big hunt somewhere nearly every weekend in the Spring and Fall.

 

We also have competition coyote hunts all over the place around here. They are usually sponsored by local bars.

 

I really don't get why more of you don't move here. We have all sorts of game laws but nothing like what's going on over there. For the folks that like to live the country life there are endless ways to do it here. We need more white folks anyhow.

[mroak 130]

Thanks guys I checked out the links and what you all said make a lot of sense

[mroak 130]

Dan McDonough I think you should start a thread about what it's like hunting hounds or hunting in general In america.

you seem like a knowledgeable man with a lot of experience and I think it would be an instresting thread. Atb oak

[Flacko 1,742]

What's with the more white folks statement D Mc

[Dan McDonough 560]

What's with the more white folks statement D Mc

 

To many Muzzies coming in. Head chopping and all of that...had enough and not shy about it.

[leegreen 2,153]

They are just dogs that have bred on there own ,they are the same in most parts of the world pariah dogs ,same as dingos.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pariah_dog

 

Wow that looks the spit of one of my Mali Bull x pups

[tinytiger 826]

They descend from different types of wolves too.

 

http://www.caninest.com/types-of-wolf/

 

If you look for the Ethiopian wolf it's believed sighthounds originate from them,but then you get collies racier than them who probably descend entirely from the much bigger and more powerfully built grey wolf,so selective breeding probably comes into it.

 

Dogs that guard and are a bit quicker and don't range too far will be more valued and live longer,they'd probably eat the useless ones.

no proof that any dogs descend from wolves-id say they are the original unaltered/selected dog(why else do they look the same in africa,middle east,australia and america

[Shovel shy 4,033]

 

 

What's with the more white folks statement D Mc

To many Muzzies coming in. Head chopping and all of that...had enough and not shy about it.

I think we cud be good friends.

[tinytiger 826]

Just wondering if anyone one here could share any knowledge on the dogs you see in tribe documentarys used for hunting and for guarding villages and live stock.

 

quite often they seem to be some sort of lurcher are these ancient breeds of some kind or random Mongols that have been traded in the past an have bred .

 

If some of these tribes have only just come into contact with outside humans in the last 100 years but have had dogs for many years before are they ancien breeds thats DNA could be traced back to ancient drawings.

 

Any information on it is good as I find it instresting or /book recommendation/ TV programme

Book -dawn of the dog by Janice kohler maznik.

[Aussie Whip 4,092]

The dogs in African doco's look to be a rough looking basenji type dog and must have some sort of selective breeding for hunting ability etc .The local tribesmen seem to value and love their dogs,and a dogman's a dogman no matter what colour or country you come from.

[Shovel shy 4,033]

The dogs in African doco's look to be a rough looking basenji type dog and must have some sort of selective breeding for hunting ability etc .The local tribesmen seem to value and love their dogs,and a dogman's a dogman no matter what colour or country you come from.

except for the Chinese

[desertbred 5,490]

 

What's with the more white folks statement D Mc

To many Muzzies coming in. Head chopping and all of that...had enough and not shy about it.

 

I feel the same about yanks