northern lad 2,292 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 On 29/03/2017 at 15:13, THE STIFFMEISTER said: But he couldn't do 9 to 5 Nash in his situation That's my point mate, he's only doing what most of us would if we could afford to I get where your coming from,there would be other different struggles for the rest of us,but then I personally wouldn't have gone on TV for no personal gain and admitted my vulnerability or weaknesses,its just not a bloke thing to do.....we can all say what we want on here,we are by and large anonymous,how much of what we write on here would we say face to face (not aimed at you ,or any one else in particular) the guys got balls and integrity,very admirable imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,013 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 On 29/03/2017 at 15:03, mackem said: my kids mum passed away 2002,very hard for me,but there was no support group or anything,i wouldnt have went to one anyway,sink or swim time,i had a bit of boo-hoo but kids focus your mind,no time for self pity with them needing looking after. sorry to hear that mate, but you right what ever you might feel inside, you got to be strong and positive for your kids true, hope things get better mate for you . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
antg 1,787 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Took some balls to go on tv and do that programme. you could see the pain emotionally he is in was truly genuine. after watching that i have an admiration for him. come across as a genuine fella and he has 3 lucky kids to have him as a dad. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,697 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 My lads best mate is 11, his mum committed suicide when he was 3, leaving him his older sister and his dad behind... I remember my eldest girl coming home from junior school and saying a girl in her schools mum had committed suicude... My lad and him have been best mates since pre school... me and his dad took the pair of them to old Trafford couple of years back, stayed up there, pizza at midnight in the hotel etc kids loved it... the lads spent loads of time at mine, he's part of our family in my eyes... everytime he mentions his mum I choke up... my lad is very loyal to hi and has got in trouble at school before for sticking up for him when other kids (they're only kids) have said stuff about his mum etc.... Now his dad (in my eyes) is unreal, he went part time at work, and never misses anything, picks the kids up everyday, clubs, parents evenings etc... his life is dedicated to his kids... he's done a great job with them tbh 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 He's lived comftably with nothing and with wealth , I don't think having money makes his situation any easier mentally as he doesn't look at his Range Rover and think "Ahh everything is great" . . I know a bloke with 10s off millions and he's got a young family member very sick and for all his money if the unthinkable happens his money won't / can't help him mentally , RF came across as a genuine down to earth bloke and I admire his vulnerability & honesty , last night just might of helped a few people in the same situation , and I wish him all the best in the future !! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,571 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 i dont think you ever fully heal after something like that has happened to you and your family Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,069 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Fair play to him but ...I'd say its a standard requirement that you stand by your kids if there mother passes its not really pat on the back material any man with a shred of decency would wouldent they? I'm not knocking him but I'm not glorifying him either for doing somthing that should be done ....I wish him and his kids all the best from here on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,152 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 The government has just cut the bereavement allowance to a maximum of 18 months (I think they used to call it widows pension).........it used to be until your children were 16. So, if you ain't over it and in your feet in 18 months tough shit !! Which is fine if you are a working man/woman on a fairly good salary with a decent job.........I remember when my old man died my mother didn't know how to do a thing because she had never had to.......she didn't even know how to do the shopping because my old man knew all the business owners and he used to get everything. She was lucky enough to have a couple of bob, but it soon runs out. I remember them asking my mother if she could prove my old man was dead when she went to get her widows allowance !!......she was broken when they asked her that. She dealt with so much and did it as best she could so I totally get what Stiffmeister is saying........what his money gives Rio is Breathing room.......that's what it is. As Gnasher says I'm sure he would be on the bins if he could have his family back, we all would but what Stiff says is valid. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,591 Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 On 29/03/2017 at 15:13, THE STIFFMEISTER said: But he couldn't do 9 to 5 Nash in his situation That's my point mate, he's only doing what most of us would if we could afford to But most people cant afford to.......and he can......because he did well for himself and his family and now doesnt need to do a 9 - 5..........thats good right ? Maybe im just not understanding what your getting at. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,591 Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) On 29/03/2017 at 18:42, kanny said: Fair play to him but ...I'd say its a standard requirement that you stand by your kids if there mother passes its not really pat on the back material any man with a shred of decency would wouldent they? I'm not knocking him but I'm not glorifying him either for doing somthing that should be done ....I wish him and his kids all the best from here on I totally disagree......motherhood doesnt come natural to a man so being a father is the standard requirement.........to me sacrificing your immediate plans/future possibilities to be mother and father takes courage/dedication/selflessness......none of which come as standard human emotions that everyones born with. Edited March 30, 2017 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,832 Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 On 29/03/2017 at 19:00, WILF said: The government has just cut the bereavement allowance to a maximum of 18 months (I think they used to call it widows pension).........it used to be until your children were 16. So, if you ain't over it and in your feet in 18 months tough shit !! Which is fine if you are a working man/woman on a fairly good salary with a decent job.........I remember when my old man died my mother didn't know how to do a thing because she had never had to.......she didn't even know how to do the shopping because my old man knew all the business owners and he used to get everything. She was lucky enough to have a couple of bob, but it soon runs out. I remember them asking my mother if she could prove my old man was dead when she went to get her widows allowance !!......she was broken when they asked her that. She dealt with so much and did it as best she could so I totally get what Stiffmeister is saying........what his money gives Rio is Breathing room.......that's what it is. As Gnasher says I'm sure he would be on the bins if he could have his family back, we all would but what Stiff says is valid. I'm not a expert on grief but in dealing with a few people that have been in a state of grief, the first things they usually say is "how am I going to afford this and what about doing that" whilst sobbing their hearts out. You can't help them with the heart ache but you can try to take that worry away and often it helps a lot. Having money just takes some of that worry away. Don't help with the heart ache though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,152 Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 As they say mate, money isn't everything but it's definitely better to sit in the rain in a Mercedes than it is on a set of roller skates ;( 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,591 Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Wilf your a Londoner mate i dont expect all this bleed for me/whos got the most dirt under their fingernails caper from you .....the boy done good....he deserves the merits and all that brings. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 On 29/03/2017 at 19:00, WILF said: The government has just cut the bereavement allowance to a maximum of 18 months (I think they used to call it widows pension).........it used to be until your children were 16. So, if you ain't over it and in your feet in 18 months tough shit !! Which is fine if you are a working man/woman on a fairly good salary with a decent job.........I remember when my old man died my mother didn't know how to do a thing because she had never had to.......she didn't even know how to do the shopping because my old man knew all the business owners and he used to get everything. She was lucky enough to have a couple of bob, but it soon runs out. I remember them asking my mother if she could prove my old man was dead when she went to get her widows allowance !!......she was broken when they asked her that. She dealt with so much and did it as best she could so I totally get what Stiffmeister is saying........what his money gives Rio is Breathing room.......that's what it is. As Gnasher says I'm sure he would be on the bins if he could have his family back, we all would but what Stiff says is valid. That first paragraph reminds me of a conversation I had with my grandad years ago. I friend of the family, a gamekeeper had just lost his young son in a car crash. A number of days passed and I asked my grandad "who was looking after his birds?".....He said to me "He will be....Christ, it's been a week!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,697 Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 On 30/03/2017 at 16:11, gnasher16 said: Wilf your a Londoner mate i dont expect all this bleed for me/whos got the most dirt under their fingernails caper from you .....the boy done good....he deserves the merits and all that brings. Too much time in Ireland now mate.... soon change a man over there...lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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