Questions I Asked Countryside Alliance Today.

[desertbred 5,490]

The hunting Act is primarily to block ordinary folk from working their dogs, be interesting to view the latest up to date figures when available. The excert below shows the bias in the Hunting Act and how money in millions is squandered trying to enforce a Draconian unfair Act called the Hunting with dogs Act 2004 At least the AWL has a seat on the COHA and we are all in it together perhaps Mr Bonner would like to comment.

 

 

 

The Ministry of Justice has released new figures on Hunting Act convictions in England and Wales in response to a Parliamentary Question. In 2010 36 people were convicted of Hunting Act offences. None of those was employed by, or connected with, any hunt registered with the Masters of Foxhounds Association. Only one of those convictions relates to a hunt registered with the Council of Hunting Associations, of which the MFHA is a member.

Complete data from the Ministry of Justice from 2005 – 2010 shows that 181 people were convicted of Hunting Act offences. Just three of those people were connected to MFHA packs and three with other with registered CHA hunts. More than 97% of Hunting Act convictions did not involve hunts.

Edited March 31, 2017 by desertbred

[arcticgun 4,548]

The above says it all ??

[stop.end 4,079]

We stand less chance of a repeal than ever

 

Have you seen the stature and influence of the celebs who support animal welfare?

 

Which celebrity backs us?

 

Harry Enfield?

 

Vinny jones?

 

Wow

 

A tweet from Ricky gervais will get a million views

 

How can we compete in this age?

 

On the Ca march, we filled London desert bred, I think still only the anti Iraq war march was bigger

 

And they still banned it

 

We achieved nothing then and a band of two to three hundred lurcher men is going to achieve f**k all now

In 2012 terrier work in Ireland was too be banned...our politicians had the wrong view on terrier work...they only had the opinion of others who had no idea how proper terrier work was conducted..even a few very big hunting orgs were going to throw terrier work under the bus so there own type of hunting would be left alone.. so a group of serious men got together and took the fight on our own straight to the very people who had previously been about to ban it..showed them how proper terrier work is actually done..and now terrier work is in the best position it has ever been in Ireland..dont let them beat you dowm..fight the cause with how proper conducted long dog work is the safest and most humane way of controlling pests that can run fast...stop arguing get it together and take the fight to them..a bunch should go to westminster and tell them whats what...

[arcticgun 4,548]

the fact that the rich can do as they wish despite laws put into place and are not ever really called too task over it, however the poor man who has no land goes out to break the same laws holy shat rains down on him, so there's the real focus point its about equality

 

another issue that needs sorting before you go asking for anything is the question of pleasure and cruelty, we live in a much softer world nowadays, its not the country most of us past 40 grew up in, things we took for granted are now seen as major crimes even though they usually done well out of site and in the larger picture have no effect whatsoever on the population at large, fair does if your poaching then its trespass, but if you go permission why should it matter, who to say a rat less valuable than a golden eagle, if we applied the same lables to people by skin colour sexual orientation religion would that be acceptable? I know theres blurring of the lines one a pest the other a golden eagle lol but the questions still remains, why is it cruel for a dog to chase and kill a hare but its fine for a terrier to smash a rat to pieces,?

 

Is the grouse shooter killing too keep the population of grouse down? no he doing it for pleasure and that's fine cos he wons the land and likely that rich he owns or has the ear of them in power, ive been on them moors all winter and I don't see them all solemn at doing the right thing but not enjoying it, no they living it up laughing eating and drinking like kings, not one bit of remorse or thought for the grouse that been chased about and then blasted to bits, now being killed is just that being chased and killed or left wounded just exactly the same, I doubt either pleasant, if fox hinting was really about pest control lmao then why d they all have the ceremonies, good drink afterwards, again they all look to be enjoying the ride out nobody seems to be ashamed, surely is easier more effective and humane to simply kill the fox with a gun, again is he any less valuable than any other creature?

 

fishing again seen as a wholesome sport to enjoy, wonder how the fish feels about it all? Falconry the same again ask the rabbits grouse whatever how they like and alpha predator that's well fed and trained too catch them is that fair ?

 

all of the above legal or at least allowed to happen without any real fear of prosecution and its all ok too 'enjoy' it most of the above is as needless as say hare coursing , shooting would remove any of the above except fish far quicker than any of the above methods, the right shooter and none of them would even see it coming or feel any pain, injures would be minimal compared too all the above methods

 

So there again its not really about cruelty or causing fear or even killing, if killing animals is wrong then its wrong too kill any animals, don't matter which way your slotted I cant see it being nice##

 

same people who make these wars don't mind sending our kids off to get shot in some sand pit over oil that they wil benefit from but the kid or his parents wont? where's the ethics in that , and these the very people we vote in and allow too tell us what right and wrong

 

it seems to me if your wealthy you are allowed to enjoy killing for fun sport etc

 

but if your poor you need to justify your killing by saying its pest control and show no enjoyment in it for fear of being called a sadist etc

 

is it wrong for the poor too enjoy there sport? why is it ok for the rich to enjoy it?

 

 

now in reality we all know we dont go out and buzz of the killing there is far more to it than that, same with all the sports mentioned above, its just they ok to enjoy what they do and we expected to be ashamed of what we do, well that is not fair in my book and the reason I feel just in doing what I want where I want, I will take the consequences and I don't cry about it, I don't like the way it is , but I didn't vote for labour and ask for any of it, but I wont be ashamed of what I do or what my dogs do, nor will I beg for scraps and toe any line, I'm not spending my leisure time clearing up somebodies pest problem for free, let them hire a gamekeeper or do it themselves like the law states they have too if they got pest problem, they wont let me hunt what I want there so screw them and scew the CA etc they had well long enough to enlist dog lads help and they don't want us and pretending we all simple pest controllers doing the legit shit we left with don't make me laugh

Edited March 31, 2017 by arcticgun

[dog man 176]

Dog Man have you had any sucess contacting the COHA or locating their Website ?

DB I looked all last night only thing I could get close to was a company that had a page drop of there website well the company that made there website but you were right I can't fecken find it wonder why .

[dog man 176]

 

Dog Man have you had any sucess contacting the COHA or locating their Website ?

DB I looked all last night only thing I could get close to was a company that had a page drop of there website well the company that made there website but you were right I can't fecken find it wonder why .

Anyone know where there web site is .

[WILF 46,608]

It's never going to be repealed, so everyone dry your eyes and get over it.

Now you have a clear choice, takes your chances or pack it in......it really is as simple as that.

 

What part of the CA etc are not f***ing interested because they want nothing to do with you does no one understand?

[desertbred 5,490]

It's never going to be repealed, so everyone dry your eyes and get over it.

Now you have a clear choice, takes your chances or pack it in......it really is as simple as that.

 

What part of the CA etc are not f***ing interested because they want nothing to do with you does no one understand?

 

 

What part of get fecked do you not understand ? When we want your opinion I will give it to you lol

Edited March 31, 2017 by desertbred

[WILF 46,608]

Why are you being like that?........there's no need for it.

[dog man 176]

Come on lads keep it good .

[desertbred 5,490]

Why are you being like that?........there's no need for it.

[because I am a grumpy old c**t basically.

[dog man 176]

 

Why are you being like that?........there's no need for it.

[because I am a grumpy old c**t basically.

 

Hahahahahahaha

[WILF 46,608]

Cheer up then you grumpy c**t, don't get your Turban in a twist !

[Flynn 314]

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2017-03-07/debates/B19FC866-B8DB-4888-8EA3-E1BB0E159F7F/RuralPolicingAndHareCoursing

 

7th of March

 

It does not make for good reading , we have all now been tarred with the same brush, in fact I dare say , they will soon be banning rabbiting and therefore the running dog will have no purpose .

 

As with a lot of things, the few have ruined it for the many .

 

The only we see in , dealing with this is to raise the image of the lurchers and more importantly the lurcher owners .

 

As long as people ignore the law , cause damage and abuse farmers , we will never get a repeal, and never be taken serious by any one , including the CA

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

 

It does not make for good reading , we have all now been tarred with the same brush, in fact I dare say , they will soon be banning rabbiting and therefore the running dog will have no purpose .

 

As with a lot of things, the few have ruined it for the many .

 

The only we see in , dealing with this is to raise the image of the lurchers and more importantly the lurcher owners .

 

As long as people ignore the law , cause damage and abuse farmers , we will never get a repeal, and never be taken serious by any one , including the CA

 

Both the rat and the rabbit cause millions of pounds worth of damage to Agriculture, every year,....they,....will never put a stop to the control of these pest species...

Edited March 31, 2017 by Phil Lloyd