Born Hunter 17,780 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Dont think civillians should be armed. Look at America out of all the mass shootings in cinemas and schools, malls etc not once has the person been taken down by a civillian and they have shit loads of guns. Not only that when the cops turn up they don't know who you are. Just another guy brandishing a weapon. Sure fire way of getting yourself killed imo That's completely untrue. There are loads of videos of gunmen being taken down by good guys, never mind those that go unfilmed. Also there's one screamingly obvious reason why mass shootings don't get stopped, they 99% of the time choose 'gun free zones'. Also, why would we suddenly turn into the US? There's plenty of middle ground between a UK system and US one. In fact why don't we consider Switzerland, Czech Republic etc etc. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.357shooter 1,231 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 the way i see it is do not let the muslim scum who are being watched that leave the country for training abroad back in.not rocket science is it.rather than wasting police time on hate crimes and the such the root of the problem should be dealt with ie the terroists we have here allready.no more eu no more human rights and just get rid of the lot of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Im not saying we should turn into the usa mate. Maybe i worded it wrong. I was merely pointing out that all the "mass" shootings in the usa have never been stopped by a civillian. They have ran there course till the cops turned up.and 9 times out of ten the gunman had topped himself. We have had this debate before bud. I have immense respect for you're views born, but this is one thing we disagree on lol I would never want British civillians armed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,780 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) Im not saying we should turn into the usa mate. Maybe i worded it wrong. I was merely pointing out that all the "mass" shootings in the usa have never been stopped by a civillian. They have ran there course till the cops turned up.and 9 times out of ten the gunman had topped himself. We have had this debate before bud. I have immense respect for you're views born, but this is one thing we disagree on lol I would never want British civillians armed. Every c**t disagrees with my politics, lol, it's nowt new but cheers anyway mate and back at ya. Atb Edited March 23, 2017 by Born Hunter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 I'm all for arming correctly trained police officers if it means the terror threat to our cities is dramatically reduced and if a lone wolf or organised attack happens it can be stopped quickly ... I would go one further and allow certain civilians to have concealed carry weapons ... people like ex infantry soldiers that reached a certain rank and were at least small arm weapon instructors ... if something like the bataclav happened here then at least maybe somebody could defend the innocents until the armed police turned up ...... I work in security and the last boss fancied ex squad days or police and most of them where the last lot I would give guns too half of them I would have trouble giving a stick to and letting them shout bang they where adrenalin junkys and good for feck all What branch of security do you work in ???...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Is that Socks advocating Pesties carry small arms lol Fook that only trained police or serving soldiers should be carrying firearms on our streets. So soldiers who have recently left the service just forget everything they've learned do they ?????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peterhunter86 8,627 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 I agree with everything waslhie said now that hes not an english man lol but mho is ship the lot of the cnuts familys and supporters back where were they belong then nuke the cnuts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 I'm all for arming correctly trained police officers if it means the terror threat to our cities is dramatically reduced and if a lone wolf or organised attack happens it can be stopped quickly ... I would go one further and allow certain civilians to have concealed carry weapons ... people like ex infantry soldiers that reached a certain rank and were at least small arm weapon instructors ... if something like the bataclav happened here then at least maybe somebody could defend the innocents until the armed police turned up ...... I work in security and the last boss fancied ex squad days or police and most of them where the last lot I would give guns too half of them I would have trouble giving a stick to and letting them shout bang they where adrenalin junkys and good for feck all What branch of security do you work in ???...... Bouncer at mothercare. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,940 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 You'd think outside parliament they would be as a matter of course. They had armed officers there which is why he was killed so fast? The policeman killed wasn't armed though. He had to wait for backup, which can be too long when you're being knifed by a deranged wog. I'm sure if he had his own gun he'd be alive now. spot on even the police as said on the programs after, it wasn't if it happens, its when it happens to be ready / and with this threat of terrorism that's happening in our country now , the cops have got to be more ready to deal with it , and killing them with guns is far better than any more innocent people dying , it as to be Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,822 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 all the peelers are armed over here, but I do think all the police should be trained in unarmed combat and fit tested every 2 yrs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,822 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 who needs guns when we have candles to fight fire with fire 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 I agree with everything waslhie said now that hes not an english man lol but mho is ship the lot of the cnuts familys and supporters back where were they belong then nuke the cnuts. Oi Jackeen, I am English. My wife is a culchie and we live in Wales with our Scottish dog. Multiculutral we are! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 If the way they deploy tazars willy nilly is anything to go by then no they shouldn't be armed .. your average hobby Bobby like we got here don't need arming with a gun 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 The London attacker gained entry to the Parliamentary estate, where he was shot by a member of the Defence Secretary's close protection detail - after he had been held up, by an unarmed police officer, long enough for support to arrive. As far as I know, there were no armed police involved..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,780 Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 The London attacker gained entry to the Parliamentary estate, where he was shot by a member of the Defence Secretary's close protection detail - after he had been held up, by an unarmed police officer, long enough for support to arrive. As far as I know, there were no armed police involved..... Pretty sure his close protection are assigned from the branch of the Met Police. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_and_Diplomatic_Protection Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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