WILF 46,646 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Accip74 said: I think Trump has dug himself a big hole this last couple of weeks, that he may struggle to scramble out of. The so called debate was an embarrassing spectacle for all involved. The subsequent circus surrounding his positive test has clearly misjudged the mood of the people. Far from marvelling at his strength, many will be left scratching their heads wondering why they are following Covid guidelines, but the administration doesn’t. Talk about mixed messaging, it makes the tories seem clear & concise. As for claiming rejuvenation & that he suggested yet another ‘cure’ to the team of medics? It may be bullshittery a tad to far? I reckon our politicians are a reflection of where we are at as a people mate, we won’t mend them until we mend us ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 Documents declassified, with handwritten note yesterday, shows that senior intelligence briefed Obama, about hillary plot to smear trump by linking him with Russia, it was all made up an it's there inblavk an white. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, WILF said: I reckon our politicians are a reflection of where we are at as a people mate, we won’t mend them until we mend us ? I’d say that’s a fair observation mate But this election, maybe even worse than 2016? is asking an awful lot of the average voter! Has anyone really got the time to trawl through all the bullshit to find the truth? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,243 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) How can you run a country successfully when there is such hatred and polarisation? Nancy Pelosi hates Trump, she's second in line for the presidency, after Mike Pence, if anything happens to Trump ! Shes already tried indicting him; that failed. Now she's trying to invoke Article 25 of the constitution to have him declared unfit for office . Whatever you think of Trump, he won the election, but Pelosi, Hilary Clinton and others will never accept democracy.....very odd for a party called The Democrats ! Not quite so bad here, but we have the swivel eyed lunatics who will never accept that Corbyn isn't the Messiah, he's a very naughty old communist , terrorist supporting traitor ! Not to mention the other traitors who will never accept Brexit, and will do everything they can to thwart it or make it so bad it harms our country ! All these people call themselves Liberals and Democrats, but are so up their own arses they can't see the irony !!! Cheers. Edited October 9, 2020 by chartpolski 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, chartpolski said: How can you run a country successfully when there is such hared and polarisation? Nancy Pelosi hates Trump, she's second in line for the presidency, after Mike Pence, if anything happens to Trump ! Shes already tried indicting him; that failed. Now she's trying to invoke Article 25 of the constitution to have him declared unfit for office . Whatever you think of Trump, he won the election, but Pelosi, Hilary Clinton and others will never accept democracy.....very odd for a party called The Democrats ! Not quite so bad here, but we have the swivel eyed lunatics who will never accept that Corbyn isn't the Messiah, he's a very naughty old communist , terrorist supporting traitor ! Not to mention the other traitors who will never accept Brexit, and will do everything they can to thwart it or make it so bad it harms our country ! All these people call themselves Liberals and Democrats, but are so up their own arses they can't see the irony !!! Cheers. You don’t think that works for both sides? It’s a never ending two horse race, that’s how it works there. If trump loses, I guarantee his supporters will make remoaners look resigned & accepting 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,243 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, Accip74 said: You don’t think that works for both sides? It’s a never ending two horse race, that’s how it works there. If trump loses, I guarantee his supporters will make remoaners look resigned & accepting Of course it works both ways to a degree, but I didn't see the Republicans go after Bill Clinton or Obama with the same intensity as the Democrats went after Bush and Trump. As far as Brexit is concerned, I feel sure if Remain had won, we wouldn't have had the court cases, the appeals, etc, I think most leavers would have just accepted it. Its only my opinion of course, but I think the left only like and respect democracy when the vote goes their way. But I'm a right winger, so I would say that, wouldn't I ? LOL ! Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
green lurchers 16,592 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Of course it works both ways to a degree, but I didn't see the Republicans go after Bill Clinton or Obama with the same intensity as the Democrats went after Bush and Trump. As far as Brexit is concerned, I feel sure if Remain had won, we wouldn't have had the court cases, the appeals, etc, I think most leavers would have just accepted it. Its only my opinion of course, but I think the left only like and respect democracy when the vote goes their way. But I'm a right winger, so I would say that, wouldn't I ? LOL ! Cheers. Agree Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,646 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 I have never in my life seen a politician remorselessly hunted at every turn like Trump has been.....if that bloke ties his shoe laces there is a negative spin put on the story......it has been relentless. So I think for many, myself included, who can’t be bothered to look for “the truth” because it’s not worth doing so anyway that is enough for us to say “he must be doing something right” Trumps a clown, but these people we have been electing across Europe and America the last 25 or 30 years and their perversion of life are worse......and what’s more they are dangerous. They are maniacs......literally maniacs. See, in reality it don’t really effect me if a bloke wants to call himself a woman or vice versa but it’s the state mandating that lie and making me say it’s truth that’s dangerous........and it happens in so many areas. The double speak that we brush off every day is in fact deadly. These politicians are wolves in sheep’s clothing and no matter what your politics everyone should be scared when madness is mandated and made law. Its not about hating anyone, it’s about having the freedom to say “that’s not true” and not getting locked up for saying what you believe. I think everyone should support Trump because if he don’t work then what comes later has to get worse. Nobody listened to Germany when they said “stop treating us like this” and 50 million died. 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,646 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 "Rome may not yet be in flames, but I think I can smell the smouldering whilst we hum to the music of liberal self-delusion" I wonder if anyone can tell me who wrote that ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,646 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, baker boy said: Googled it and was suprised When even people at the heart of the madness are saying it then you know something is wrong mate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 Trump walks a cross the Hudson River .... USA media President Trump can’t swim ......... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, WILF said: I have never in my life seen a politician remorselessly hunted at every turn like Trump has been.....if that bloke ties his shoe laces there is a negative spin put on the story......it has been relentless. So I think for many, myself included, who can’t be bothered to look for “the truth” because it’s not worth doing so anyway that is enough for us to say “he must be doing something right” Trumps a clown, but these people we have been electing across Europe and America the last 25 or 30 years and their perversion of life are worse......and what’s more they are dangerous. They are maniacs......literally maniacs. See, in reality it don’t really effect me if a bloke wants to call himself a woman or vice versa but it’s the state mandating that lie and making me say it’s truth that’s dangerous........and it happens in so many areas. The double speak that we brush off every day is in fact deadly. These politicians are wolves in sheep’s clothing and no matter what your politics everyone should be scared when madness is mandated and made law. Its not about hating anyone, it’s about having the freedom to say “that’s not true” and not getting locked up for saying what you believe. I think everyone should support Trump because if he don’t work then what comes later has to get worse. Nobody listened to Germany when they said “stop treating us like this” and 50 million died. Well let’s not forget best case scenario for you guys he get another 4 years to change the world. We are not going to see a trump dictatorship. I think you’re expecting a tad too much of the guy, but keep dreaming Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,646 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Accip74 said: Well let’s not forget best case scenario for you guys he get another 4 years to change the world. We are not going to see a trump dictatorship. I think you’re expecting a tad too much of the guy, but keep dreaming You misunderstand me mate, I don’t want a dictatorship of anybody. What I’m saying is millions of people see him as the answer and instead of just slagging them and him off the question everyone should be asking is “why?” ........and just throwing shit at people is one of the reasons he is in office in the first place. I don’t know who “you guys” are either...... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 minute ago, WILF said: You misunderstand me mate, I don’t want a dictatorship of anybody. What I’m saying is millions of people see him as the answer and instead of just slagging them and him off the question everyone should be asking is “why?” ........and just throwing shit at people is one of the reasons he is in office in the first place. I don’t know who “you guys” are either...... I didn’t misunderstand mate, I didn’t think you wanted a dictatorship. Just making the point the last 4 years has gone in the blink of an eye! He won’t save the world in the next 4 years & he seems to be your only hope? I fully understand we need to look at why trump is there & not what he is. Personally I think it was genius of the republicans, while you & I focus on Trump, it takes the heat of them, but it won’t work forever. The saddest thing is there no credible opposition. ”you guys” just simply meant the collective of supporters on here mate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,243 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 Is Trump perfect ? Far from it, but I like him because he isn't a career politician, he owes his position to people who were sick of the status quo, and voted for him, not the political establishment. Theres only him and Farage, in my opinion, who say it as they see it, rightly or wrongly. People are a lot more politically savvy these days, and many have seen through the career politicians who put their careers and snouts in the trough above doing or saying the right thing. I thought Boris was of that ilk, but now I'm not sure. If he delivers a REAL Brexit, I'll be convinced. Cheers. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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