BGD 6,436 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-12/trump-flips-five-core-key-campaign-promises-under-24-hours I can understand why some people pushed their doubts to the back of their mind and hopped on the Trump train, I think we all understand and acknowledge the reasons folk feel like the establishment have abandoned them and they felt like Trump was the first politician to speak directly to them and say all the right things. But I think if they're honest with themselves they can see now that they were duped by a career conman who never had their interests at heart and was just saying whatever it took to get elected with no intention of carrying out half of it and no idea HOW to carry out the other half. A bit like every politician then...... Trump is supposed to be different though? That's supposed to be his appeal? That's nonsense anyway, there's plenty of politicians who have good intentions and work tirelessly for their constituents and do good work, they just don't generally make it to the top because things like principles get in the way on that climb 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,611 Posted April 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-12/trump-flips-five-core-key-campaign-promises-under-24-hours I can understand why some people pushed their doubts to the back of their mind and hopped on the Trump train, I think we all understand and acknowledge the reasons folk feel like the establishment have abandoned them and they felt like Trump was the first politician to speak directly to them and say all the right things. But I think if they're honest with themselves they can see now that they were duped by a career conman who never had their interests at heart and was just saying whatever it took to get elected with no intention of carrying out half of it and no idea HOW to carry out the other half. I actually think trump duped his self.. he got pushed on by the people and started to believe his own rhetoric which made the people push him on further and so on and so on ... but now he's got to back it up he's up shit creek without a paddle lol 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-12/trump-flips-five-core-key-campaign-promises-under-24-hours I can understand why some people pushed their doubts to the back of their mind and hopped on the Trump train, I think we all understand and acknowledge the reasons folk feel like the establishment have abandoned them and they felt like Trump was the first politician to speak directly to them and say all the right things. But I think if they're honest with themselves they can see now that they were duped by a career conman who never had their interests at heart and was just saying whatever it took to get elected with no intention of carrying out half of it and no idea HOW to carry out the other half. A bit like every politician then......Trump is supposed to be different though? That's supposed to be his appeal? That's nonsense anyway, there's plenty of politicians who have good intentions and work tirelessly for their constituents and do good work, they just don't generally make it to the top because things like principles get in the way on that climb Give the man a chance, it's not how you start it's how you finish........ ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-12/trump-flips-five-core-key-campaign-promises-under-24-hours I can understand why some people pushed their doubts to the back of their mind and hopped on the Trump train, I think we all understand and acknowledge the reasons folk feel like the establishment have abandoned them and they felt like Trump was the first politician to speak directly to them and say all the right things. But I think if they're honest with themselves they can see now that they were duped by a career conman who never had their interests at heart and was just saying whatever it took to get elected with no intention of carrying out half of it and no idea HOW to carry out the other half. I actually think trump duped his self.. he got pushed on by the people and started to believe his own rhetoric which made the people push him on further and so on and so on ... but now he's got to back it up he's up shit creek without a paddle lol I think there's quite a bit of truth in that mate, he is after all the accidental president, but you only have to look at his history? Yes he may be a billionaire, but at what cost to others? Bankruptcies, a string of failed businesses, ripping off students with trump university......the list is endless & he's walked away unscathed! At what cost to the american people will his Presidency be? You only have to look at that list of repeals chris put up, it's really short sighted stuff.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,611 Posted April 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-12/trump-flips-five-core-key-campaign-promises-under-24-hours I can understand why some people pushed their doubts to the back of their mind and hopped on the Trump train, I think we all understand and acknowledge the reasons folk feel like the establishment have abandoned them and they felt like Trump was the first politician to speak directly to them and say all the right things. But I think if they're honest with themselves they can see now that they were duped by a career conman who never had their interests at heart and was just saying whatever it took to get elected with no intention of carrying out half of it and no idea HOW to carry out the other half. I actually think trump duped his self.. he got pushed on by the people and started to believe his own rhetoric which made the people push him on further and so on and so on ... but now he's got to back it up he's up shit creek without a paddle lolI think there's quite a bit of truth in that mate, he is after all the accidental president, but you only have to look at his history? Yes he may be a billionaire, but at what cost to others? Bankruptcies, a string of failed businesses, ripping off students with trump university......the list is endless & he's walked away unscathed!At what cost to the american people will his Presidency be? You only have to look at that list of repeals chris put up, it's really short sighted stuff.... We all know he's a ego maniac but I guess that's what make his shortcomings come to light in the end ...he just hasn't thought it through lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) I really don't think Donnie actually fully understood what being President entailed, he certainly thought he would have much more power than he does you can see that in how frustrated he's got with the courts and Congress. He was so focused on winning he didn't stop to think about what he'd do when he actually won which has left him to be pulled about by the more experienced people around him with a real agenda. Edited April 13, 2017 by BGD 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-12/trump-flips-five-core-key-campaign-promises-under-24-hours I can understand why some people pushed their doubts to the back of their mind and hopped on the Trump train, I think we all understand and acknowledge the reasons folk feel like the establishment have abandoned them and they felt like Trump was the first politician to speak directly to them and say all the right things. But I think if they're honest with themselves they can see now that they were duped by a career conman who never had their interests at heart and was just saying whatever it took to get elected with no intention of carrying out half of it and no idea HOW to carry out the other half. I actually think trump duped his self.. he got pushed on by the people and started to believe his own rhetoric which made the people push him on further and so on and so on ... but now he's got to back it up he's up shit creek without a paddle lolI think there's quite a bit of truth in that mate, he is after all the accidental president, but you only have to look at his history? Yes he may be a billionaire, but at what cost to others? Bankruptcies, a string of failed businesses, ripping off students with trump university......the list is endless & he's walked away unscathed!At what cost to the american people will his Presidency be? You only have to look at that list of repeals chris put up, it's really short sighted stuff.... We all know he's a ego maniac but I guess that's what make his shortcomings come to light in the end ...he just hasn't thought it through lol To be honest I think you need a pretty healthy ego to elevate yourself to those lofty heights.........but it's his apparent narcissism that's dangerous..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/605441/Donald-Trump-North-Korea-warning-Kim-Jong-un-warning-MOAB-ISIS-Afghanistan-WW3-war Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,611 Posted April 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/605441/Donald-Trump-North-Korea-warning-Kim-Jong-un-warning-MOAB-ISIS-Afghanistan-WW3-war He's ready for em 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,611 Posted April 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Because of trumps narcissism I'm a tad worried that he now thinks bombs = applause Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Because of trumps narcissism I'm a tad worried that he now thinks bombs = applause After seeing the reaction to the Syria strike I was really worried that was the path he was going to go down... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,832 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 I really don't think Donnie actually fully understood what being President entailed, he certainly thought he would have much more power than he does you can see that in how frustrated he's got with the courts and Congress. He was so focused on winning he didn't stop to think about what he'd do when he actually won which has left him to be pulled about by the more experienced people around him with a real agenda. Sure that's the same for every president or prime minister though isn't it mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 I don't see this as being Trump I see it as the people behind him. The pro Trumpers are all being pushed out, Flynn, Bannon and there was a woman recently demoted but I can't remember her name. Also another Trump favourite had his security clearance removed preventing him being on the JCS all of them were anti interventionist people. I'll see if I can dig out their names. What this shows to me is that it doesn't matter who gets in the White House, the policy will never change. I know there are people who don't like him, that's fine but look at Obama he was in the same situation. I always thought he didn't look like he believed what he was saying, often he was incoherent and rambled, almost like he was being forced to say things he didn't want to say. Maybe that was why he spent so much time playing golf. He was also anti interventionist and promised to shut down guantanamo which never happened. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 I really don't think Donnie actually fully understood what being President entailed, he certainly thought he would have much more power than he does you can see that in how frustrated he's got with the courts and Congress. He was so focused on winning he didn't stop to think about what he'd do when he actually won which has left him to be pulled about by the more experienced people around him with a real agenda. Sure that's the same for every president or prime minister though isn't it mate Not at all, there's been plenty of world leaders throughout history who have had a real vision and managed to implement it whether through sheer force of will or by competently playing the game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,832 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Like Thatcher you mean ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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