Trump Under Fire

[Lenmcharristar 9,814]

13 minutes ago, dave88 said:

So if the wig gets his way and they start on the wall, what's to stop the next president from just scrapping the whole thing?...some one earlier in the thread mentioned that it would probably take multiple presidencies to build and there's no guarantee that'll be trump....genuine question

Next election time will see how the US people’s reactions. The demoRATS over there act the same as remoaners over here. All for democracy if it goes their way

[ChrisJones 7,975]

6 hours ago, scothunter said:

You're washing you're time.

True Scot. Nothing said, shown, or printed is going to change the mind of his base support but there is still some decent reading out there for those that are sat on the fence or just want a change from Brexit/Westenders.

5 hours ago, dave88 said:

I'm sure some of you would change your tune if it happened over here and was affecting you directly

In all honesty I'm not completely against a shutdown. If you can furlough 25% of government staff as 'non-essential' then it begs the question of why they're employed and being paid in the first place as they're on 100% taxpayer based salary. But that's another thread entirely. The method stank and we're still paying for the services through taxation only now we're not getting them.

Incidentally this shutdown does not effect the salaries of the politicians.

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[ChrisJones 7,975]

5 hours ago, Lenmcharristar said:

So it’s ok for the globalists to keep fcuking a country up and constantly trying to over throw a democratically elected president and sabotaging every decision that the current gov make just to further they’re own nwo agenda? But he tries to push back and he’s the enemy??????? Nah don’t think so the demoRATS are to be held accountable on this too, remember why the don was voted in, because the people have had enough of the rats and the usual bs

This is the crux of it. People will never agree on anything and those that agree on somethings won't always agree on everything. That's politics. It's your opinion that globalists keep f*ck*ng up the country but the majority of people keep voting for them in democratic elections. The whataboutists on this thread seem to forget that Obama was a democratically elected president too. So was George W Bush. So was Bill Clinton. Accept it or vote to change it. This is what is now playing out in real time.

Don was democratically elected in 2016. He's just had a referendum on his presidency and racked up massive losses. If this is a democracy and the will of the people why is he ignoring that and pursuing his own agenda? Why has he become what he swore to change and why is any criticism of him verbotten?

4 hours ago, dave88 said:

So if the wig gets his way and they start on the wall, what's to stop the next president from just scrapping the whole thing?...some one earlier in the thread mentioned that it would probably take multiple presidencies to build and there's no guarantee that'll be trump....genuine question

Guilty and there is a metric f*ck ton of peer reviewed information on US immigration and advice from people that have careers in border enforcement and people that have lived on the border their entire lives that challenge the Trump narrative. Good starter is here, here, and here, if you're interested.

4 hours ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Next election time will see how the US people’s reactions. The demoRATS over there act the same as remoaners over here. All for democracy if it goes their way

Agreed mate but this election time (November 2018) has seen Don dealt big losses at the polls. Huge! He lost the house by a massive margin. He's gone from full control of all branches of government in 2016 and has managed to piss off so many people in just 2 short years that they turned out in record breaking numbers to deny him that full control.

Do you accept that democratic result?

I do. Same as Don's election but the beauty of living in the freeish world is that I'm allowed to critique that also. Again for the record there isn't just Republicans and Democrats in America and their bipartisan nonsense is changing the way people are interacting with politics. A win for the Democrats isn't a win for a America by a long shot but if it curtails some of the current nonsense then it's the poison chalice we have to drink from until we find the right way.

[green lurchers 16,714]

22 hours ago, baker boy said:

 

Pelosi is mentally ill bless her , by her own admission she only came back  to the dems political stages because Hillary lost  hang on the biggest lying treasonous uranium selling  war mongering terrorist funding democrat in history not mentioning pay to play murder  home security flouting Trojan horse shar law loving lost an election to don who was elected  so  come on donny haters put a list up to match the alternative leader of the USA lol  when you get past lying errrm errrm errrrm Benghazi ? Nah , Urainium  ? Nah. Terrorist funding ?  Nah Lybia ? Haiti ? Come on spill it 

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[scothunter 12,609]

Oh well maybe her and trump should hook up as he is mentally ill too

[green lurchers 16,714]

7 minutes ago, scothunter said:

Oh well maybe her and trump should hook up as he is mentally ill too

Is this the beginning of the list lol let’s just refresh on the alternative to don doing her bit of lying to the nation  rip to those that died cos of this treasonous Democrat she should be locked up 

 

Edited January 14, 2019 by green lurchers

[green lurchers 16,714]

Another look at killary under oath , you can see the Democratic lies oozing out of her  , when don has equalled any of the Benghazi lies be sure to post them up

 

Edited January 14, 2019 by green lurchers

[scothunter 12,609]

But she isn't the president so it's imaterial who cares she is and never will be in power. 

[Neobliviscaris1776 1,998]

1 hour ago, scothunter said:

But she isn't the president so it's imaterial who cares she is and never will be in power. 

Responsible for the direct murders of American service men in Benghazi through corruption and ambition.....it's immaterial, give me a break.

From her own mouth, remember, "what difference does it make" she said. Very wicked woman and extremely stupid

[VOON 1,317]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/15/trump-privately-said-he-wanted-to-pull-us-from-nato-report.html

 

 

[green lurchers 16,714]

See that list is growing lol 

[ChrisJones 7,975]

20 hours ago, green lurchers said:

Pelosi is mentally ill bless her , by her own admission she only came back  to the dems political stages because Hillary lost

The crazy thing, mate, is that she's becoming staggeringly popular simply for opposing Donnie. That's the effect that he has on people.

For the umpteenth time the Democrats are not good for America but can you at least show us all the good that Donnie has done?

Don's Election Promises. Kept, Stalled, In The Works and Broken.

Edited January 15, 2019 by ChrisJones
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[ChrisJones 7,975]

Donnie's early morning Twitter run about "over 1000 hamberders" shows how effortlessly he lies... He paid though...

[ChrisJones 7,975]

8 hours ago, green lurchers said:

See that list is growing lol 

• Lies In Office Obama's presidency compared to Trump's first 10 months
• Trumps Transition Of Untruths, Exaggerations And Flat-out Falsehoods by Taylor Gee, Brent Griffiths and Ruairi Kenna
• Trump's Lies Vs Your Brain by Maria Konnikova
• Why Donald Trump Is The Most Fact Checked President In History by Angie Drobnic Holan
• Politifacts comparison. Fact checking US politics. Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton. Mike Pence. Barack Obama. Nancy Pelosi. Chuck Schumer.

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[green lurchers 16,714]

1 hour ago, ChrisJones said:

The crazy thing, mate, is that she's becoming staggeringly popular simply for opposing Donnie. That's the effect that he has on people.

For the umpteenth time the Democrats are not good for America but can you at least show us all the good that Donnie has done?

Don's Election Promises. Kept, Stalled, In The Works and Broken.

Ahhh Chris don’t eu twist it to wat dons done let’s build the list of the only other candidate in the running that never got elected but had she well you know my thiughts , reg Pelosi who by the way is a career leech and has a fkn great big wall round her tax payer mansion  and was firmly on the killary payroll , she along with plenty others of the gash brigade of dems hav swept to the frontline of politics on one single reason ther immense inbuilt hatred of don they all got one thing in common ther a bunch of useless cnts Pelosi along with a few other top line dems will get swept aside if they topple don thru ther anti don tactics and the new wave of Lib Dem’s oh fk god help America they make antifa look good gear lol