Welsh_red 4,743 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 No ok so the kid is english? Its northern european, ? 2 english people move to wales and have a kid while living there , What nationality is the kid is what im asking Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 It's a tricky one, but both my kids were born here........& they ain't fcuking belgian! Haha... I got them british passports ;-) im assuming if you hadnt got them british passports they would have been classed as belgian tho? Not by me! My wife is french, to make things even more complicated...haha But, I insisted on british passports ;-) They had to be british or french.....to be considered officially belgian, one of us would of needed belgian citizenship, I think? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Lets cut to the nitty gritty, we got white yellow black brown and all sorts in between, white folk are generally Northern europeans, blacks generally africans, brown and yellow asians, wherever you live your still ethnically 1 of the groups mentioned 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 No ok so the kid is english? Its northern european, ? 2 english people move to wales and have a kid while living there , What nationality is the kid is what im asking British 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,743 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Lets cut to the nitty gritty, we got white yellow black brown and all sorts in between, white folk are generally Northern europeans, blacks generally africans, brown and yellow asians, wherever you live your still ethnically 1 of the groups mentioned yeah thats fine . Thats not what i was talking about tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 No ok so the kid is english? Its northern european, ? 2 english people move to wales and have a kid while living there , What nationality is the kid is what im asking All Northern European countries/tribes (in the past) have intermingled to some extent. We share similar DNA but still have different genetic traits so this argument is not the same as saying I can become an African or Asian by getting a passport or having a child. There are different races who are all different, it's not something I have an issue recognising. The genetic difference within Europe are interesting and I believe you can spot some of them quite easily. There are pretty obvious traits amongst many of the Welsh here and you can see the same in Scotland as well. Blond hair is rarer here for example. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Ethnicities made nations, simply being in a nation doesn't change your ethnicity lol. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) Lets cut to the nitty gritty, we got white yellow black brown and all sorts in between, white folk are generally Northern europeans, blacks generally africans, brown and yellow asians, wherever you live your still ethnically 1 of the groups mentioned yeah thats fine . Thats not what i was talking about tho Just because you're born in a country doesnt automatically make you that particular nationality, english welsh irish scottish are close enough to be regarded as the same, some little darkie kid whose parents have just landed here from pakiland or africa is not and never will be british Edited March 23, 2017 by Onlyworkmatters 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 Just because a donkey is born in a racing stable doesn't mean it will be a racehorse .No matter the traced ancestry of blacks or pakis they ain't British they are black or pakis .Get this in your head and everything else falls into place ,they ain't welcome . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,758 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 so i will ask the un answered question again,,,,what about those people with mixed ethinc back ground ,,,at what point in the dilution,,to they become british?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,587 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 My wife was born on an army base in germany but she isn't German 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 so i will ask the un answered question again,,,,what about those people with mixed ethinc back ground ,,,at what point in the dilution,,to they become british?? Well the term British clearly means different things to different people today which is why no-one can agree on what it means. My original statement is what I believe British to mean and I stand by that because that is how it was when I was a kid when this country was 99.9% White European and mainly English, N-Irish, Scots, Welsh with influences from other European nations. Again in my opinion they are as you describe, mixed ethnic background. They are obviously a British citizen in the modern sense of the word. There has always been some dilution in our ethnic make up. Personally I don't understand why there is this desperation (when this topic inevitably comes up on TV) for everyone to say Mo Farrah (for example) is British when he isn't and wasn't even born here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 My wife was born on an army base in germany but she isn't German Same here and I never let her forget 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted March 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 This has been an interesting read so far I think that being British is a generic term for us English, Irish, Scottish and Welsh. We all have our own national identity and, we're all very proud of it but, when we pull together to protect our little islands, we're British and proud of it. Never mind all of the bollocks from our politicians and who they'll give British passports to, the true Brits are still very much alive and kicking - I've seen a small example of that from the passion shown on some recent threads Some may well belive that Great Britain has lost it's bite but, history has shown that when we're really backed into a corner we will come together and become a formidable force. Perhaps the infighting and banter keeps us sharp, who knows. But I do know that, given the choice, I'm proud to be be a British Englishman 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RTurlough 160 Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) Potato famine. lol Sorry Jonjon79......you put Irish and British in the same sentence there. You must have made a typo. Edited March 24, 2017 by RTurlough Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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