What Does Being British Mean To You?

[Born Hunter 17,751]

 

 

 

To me it's the indomitable spirit in the face of adversity where we Brits historically come to our own.

 

The Battle Of Britain fighter pilots outnumbered 4-1 but still went up every day and fought the Germans back

Henry V at Aigincourt outnumbered 5-1 and beat the French

Ranulph Fiennes and his incredible expeditions (sawing his frost damaged fingers off with a hacksaw)

Nelson at The Nile and at Trafalgar

Robert Falcon Scott knew he was done for but still showed immense courage

Winston Churchill refused to accept defeat or surrender

The determination of Donald Campbell to break speed records which eventually took his life

The scientists, Fleming, Baird, Newton

 

All the above and many many more make me proud to be British.

 

not forgetting old nosey,,,wellington,,,,all them battles in france spain and portugal,,during the Napolionic/peninsular wars,,,and eventualy waterloo

 

 

...and the 'cockleshell heroes' in Operation Frankton.

 

The words of Lord Mountbatten, the commander of Combined Operations, are carved into a Purbeck stone at Royal Marines Poole (current headquarters of the SBS): "Of the many brave and dashing raids carried out by the men of Combined Operations Command none was more courageous or imaginative than Operation Frankton".

 

Fuckloads of similar examples.

 

Or what about John Frost led 800 Para's and took Arnhem bridge which he was told to hold for a maximum of 24 hours until the armoured brigade arrived.

 

3 days later and down to 200 men the Germans sent a messenger to negotiate terms of surrender, John Frost thanks the messenger and told him to reportback to his officer "its terribly kind of you but we don't have room to take you all in as prisoners.."

 

It was a day later and only when they had run out of ammunition they were over run and captured by the Germans. Only 100 Paras were left.

 

This is what makes me proud to be British,the French probably wouldn't have even made it to the Bridge!

 

 

And more recently, the Tornado pilots flying low level deeply penetrating strike missions in the early stages of the Gulf War. I believe I'm right in saying the British Tonkas along with US Navy were chosen specifically for these missions, with the yanks predominantly sticking to safer high altitude strikes.

 

And the Falklands is just wall to wall accounts of the f***ing incredible! Harrier dog fights, HMS Conqueror essentially neutralising the entire Argentine Fleet, countless SF operations including the SBS pioneering fast-roping while boarding a spy ship and being the first on the scene deployed from subs, the battles of Mt Longden and Goose Green by 2 and 3 Paras, the beach landing and bomb alley, the black buck strikes and not to mention the shear defiance of the success of such an operation which the US Navy determined to be "a military impossibility for the British"!

[gnasher16 30,025]

Well as I have tried (not very successfully by the looks!) to point out its one thing to say "I don't give a monkeys, I say what I like" but when you actually give an example of that mantra in action everyone is f***ing mortified !

 

The fact is, nobody just says what they like when they feel like it because it's a bridge too far and very often it's not the right thing to do.

But Wilf what is this " saying what you like " ? ....what does it look like ?

 

Is it just strutting round shouting " i hate coons " ?....because no you cant get away with that anymore.....but having a conversation saying i dont like coons because....................................i think is perfectly reasonable but like anything else theres ways of going about things ive got black pals who know my feelings and opinions it doesnt change the respect we have for each other as any hostility is approached in the right way and talked out like men..........never been a problem.

[Welsh_red 4,614]

 

 

 

 

Aye I suppose they do but that's the arrogance of youth I suppose.......but as your reply points out perfectly nobody really has the stomach to say it out loud and as it is, like foxdropper says most people are fine to mutter under their breath but saying it our loud is more than they can run to.

Ugly isn't it

Im not sure how my reply points out anything of the sort . If your insinuating that i feel the same way as those blokes but dont vocalise it then your wrong . I wouldnt care if africans sat next to me at a restaurant to be honest . Id be more concerned with the idots quoffing champagne celebrating a release from custody like a bargain basement tony montana shouting abuse at a family of africans who decided to go out for a family meal . When you say "family" im assuming there were kids there aswell . Top marks for those guys . They feel a certain way and arnt afraid to say it . Good for them . But in my book that kind of behaviour is akin to bulliyng . Now if the africans were being loud , obnoxious , or general trouble makers at the table then their within their rights to get a different table . But thats a behaviour thing . Not a skin colour thing . If i was out with my mrs and kids for a family meal somewhere nice and expensive i wouldnt want to be sat next to those idiots so the africans may have ended up with the better side of this deal . The people they were moved next to maybe not so much

Can't disagree with any of that, it's pretty spot in view.

lol not sure if your being sarcastic or not

No actually I'm not, that's how mature men think and rightly so.........however (as we have seen in the mcguiness thread) some people never grow up but they also lack the fibre to actually practice what they preach.

 

 

Im with you on that , My mother in law gives the massive racist crap whenever im in earshot because she knows it winds me up . Says bollocks like "hitler was right "etc and all that crap . I had a major argument with her at christmas dinner before when she was going on about hating blacks and they all should go back where they came from and crap like that . I told her she has no right to sit at my table with my little kids talking that crap infront of them as if its nothing . Its not something i want my kids exposed to as if its ok to hate for no logical reason . Thats my beliefs and i stand by them . I got the whole " you wouldnt understand youve never lived in a big city , youve lived in the country all your life and havnt seen how they act " etc and all in all i get that . Thats true . But it doesnt mean im going to change my opinion or change the way i want my kids raised . Theirs black kids in my town and their diamond kids . One poor b*****d had marrow cancer and lost his leg in his early teens and is still involved with the football team even tho he cant play any more. Anyway , my boys birthday party in a play barn and i invited my cousin and her husband and kid from newport down . The husband is african/dutch something and is incredibly black . Hes a real nice quiet timid guy and my mother in law was all over him , laughing and joking and generally being great company . I said to my mrs id have more respect if she stayed away form him and if the guy asked why she wasnt talking to him she said she didnt like blacks .If your willing to talk it up to everybody but dont back it up then your worse than a racist . Your a pretend racist and that is low . On the same subject . If someone doesnt like blacks for any reason and is open about it and carries through with it i can get that . Its your personal belief and if you believe it 100% you should keep on as you are . My gripe will come when people overstep the mark and are horrible to everyone of that race for no reason . Theirs no need for it . Dont like them fine , No need to be horrible to a guy to his face when he has done nothing to you personally

[gnasher16 30,025]

 

 

Lots of people on here go on about how other ethnic groups are this or are that there are good and bad in every race creed and culture in England and around the world don't get me wrong I'm not saying we should let all comers in but we as a race should look with in at our useless nasty c**ts before we point our fingers at others . I totally believe if we were in a 3rd world country or in a country living in poverty most of us would do what ever necessary to provide for our families

These are the sort of wishy washy comments i find hard to stomach in todays society you say there is good and bad in every race creed and culture in England........tell me what good there is within for example the Somalian or Nigerian communities in England ?....im sure they are good to each other but what do they have to offer England or English people ?....they have no desire to embrace our culture thats why they set up their own communities they detest us as people and came here purely to exploit us.......so wheres the good ?.........its this type of " good and bad in all people " trendy bullshit sayings that are used to control peoples opinions.....its perfectly natural for an Englishman to dislike races who are generally unclean in their habits,who dont share the same values we do,who have a basic dislike for us in our own country........why should we feel so terrified of voicing those opinions go to Somalian neighborhoods they are disgusting what is there to like about these people ?........so am i wrong for pointing that out.

Always hard not sound like I am being a funny c**t in the written word but a genuine question mate.......what's the difference between what you are saying in that reply and them lads actually saying it out loud in that resturuant ?

 

Come on Wilf you are a well lived chap theres ways you do things and theres ways you dont do things a group of lads with no etiquette acting c**ts in a restaurant because they can doesnt just go against dining rules it go,s against man rules.

Edited March 22, 2017 by gnasher16

[Welsh_red 4,614]

 

Well as I have tried (not very successfully by the looks!) to point out its one thing to say "I don't give a monkeys, I say what I like" but when you actually give an example of that mantra in action everyone is f***ing mortified !

 

The fact is, nobody just says what they like when they feel like it because it's a bridge too far and very often it's not the right thing to do.

But Wilf what is this " saying what you like " ? ....what does it look like ?

 

Is it just strutting round shouting " i hate coons " ?....because no you cant get away with that anymore.....but having a conversation saying i dont like coons because....................................i think is perfectly reasonable but like anything else theres ways of going about things ive got black pals who know my feelings and opinions it doesnt change the respect we have for each other as any hostility is approached in the right way and talked out like men..........never been a problem.

 

 

I can agree with that . Just because you dont like people doesnt mean you have to be horrible to them

[low plains drifter 10,289]

 

Oh i hate custard creams. Gimme a tunnocks tea cake though id munch a box lol

Got to be Tunnocks caramel wafers, I can demolish a whole pack in one sitting no problem

You lads really do eat some dog shit, pumpkin seed ryvitas stacked with cottage cheese with pineapple is the way to go

[WILF 46,588]

 

 

 

Lots of people on here go on about how other ethnic groups are this or are that there are good and bad in every race creed and culture in England and around the world don't get me wrong I'm not saying we should let all comers in but we as a race should look with in at our useless nasty c**ts before we point our fingers at others . I totally believe if we were in a 3rd world country or in a country living in poverty most of us would do what ever necessary to provide for our families

 

These are the sort of wishy washy comments i find hard to stomach in todays society you say there is good and bad in every race creed and culture in England........tell me what good there is within for example the Somalian or Nigerian communities in England ?....im sure they are good to each other but what do they have to offer England or English people ?....they have no desire to embrace our culture thats why they set up their own communities they detest us as people and came here purely to exploit us.......so wheres the good ?.........its this type of " good and bad in all people " trendy bullshit sayings that are used to control peoples opinions.....its perfectly natural for an Englishman to dislike races who are generally unclean in their habits,who dont share the same values we do,who have a basic dislike for us in our own country........why should we feel so terrified of voicing those opinions go to Somalian neighborhoods they are disgusting what is there to like about these people ?........so am i wrong for pointing that out.

Always hard not sound like I am being a funny c**t in the written word but a genuine question mate.......what's the difference between what you are saying in that reply and them lads actually saying it out loud in that resturuant ?

Come on Wilf you are a well lived chap theres ways you do things and theres ways you dont do things a group of lads with no etiquette acting c**ts in a restaurant because they can doesnt just go against dining rules it go,s against man rules.

And I understand that completely mate but say it wasn't "because they can" maybe it was genuinely how they felt and they said it and didn't really care if they could or not.

[low plains drifter 10,289]

 

To look at the world we live in today and know it was heavily influenced byn us Brits.

some not so good things, but on the whole we did a lot of good and gave the world many many inventions

I think we have managed to sit in our laurels with that for too long though mate, like a striker we can't live off past glories although we deserve credit for them all the same.

We can't forget that other people have been doing stuff well for a long time too and have maintained a nice country not whored themselves out to every tom, dick and Harry.

I watched a thing last night that made me think about that, a farmer in Norway (population about 5 million) and his farm had been in the family for 1200 (yes that's 12 HUNDRED!!) years !!

Now that's retaining your history !

 

To look at the world we live in today and know it was heavily influenced byn us Brits.

some not so good things, but on the whole we did a lot of good and gave the world many many inventions

I think we have managed to sit in our laurels with that for too long though mate, like a striker we can't live off past glories although we deserve credit for them all the same.

We can't forget that other people have been doing stuff well for a long time too and have maintained a nice country not whored themselves out to every tom, dick and Harry.

I watched a thing last night that made me think about that, a farmer in Norway (population about 5 million) and his farm had been in the family for 1200 (yes that's 12 HUNDRED!!) years !!

Now that's retaining your history !

I hear Katchum's Harris Tweed lamping leotard has been in his family for fourteen centuries

[greg64 2,806]

 

 

 

 

Lots of people on here go on about how other ethnic groups are this or are that there are good and bad in every race creed and culture in England and around the world don't get me wrong I'm not saying we should let all comers in but we as a race should look with in at our useless nasty c**ts before we point our fingers at others . I totally believe if we were in a 3rd world country or in a country living in poverty most of us would do what ever necessary to provide for our families

These are the sort of wishy washy comments i find hard to stomach in todays society you say there is good and bad in every race creed and culture in England........tell me what good there is within for example the Somalian or Nigerian communities in England ?....im sure they are good to each other but what do they have to offer England or English people ?....they have no desire to embrace our culture thats why they set up their own communities they detest us as people and came here purely to exploit us.......so wheres the good ?.........its this type of " good and bad in all people " trendy bullshit sayings that are used to control peoples opinions.....its perfectly natural for an Englishman to dislike races who are generally unclean in their habits,who dont share the same values we do,who have a basic dislike for us in our own country........why should we feel so terrified of voicing those opinions go to Somalian neighborhoods they are disgusting what is there to like about these people ?........so am i wrong for pointing that out.

Always hard not sound like I am being a funny c**t in the written word but a genuine question mate.......what's the difference between what you are saying in that reply and them lads actually saying it out loud in that resturuant ?

Come on Wilf you are a well lived chap theres ways you do things and theres ways you dont do things a group of lads with no etiquette acting c**ts in a restaurant because they can doesnt just go against dining rules it go,s against man rules.

And I understand that completely mate but say it wasn't "because they can" maybe it was genuinely how they felt and they said it and didn't really care if they could or not.

 

no just bullys if it was lennox lewis sat there with his family they would have said f**k all

[WILF 46,588]

 

 

Well as I have tried (not very successfully by the looks!) to point out its one thing to say "I don't give a monkeys, I say what I like" but when you actually give an example of that mantra in action everyone is f***ing mortified !

The fact is, nobody just says what they like when they feel like it because it's a bridge too far and very often it's not the right thing to do.

 

But Wilf what is this " saying what you like " ? ....what does it look like ?

 

Is it just strutting round shouting " i hate coons " ?....because no you cant get away with that anymore.....but having a conversation saying i dont like coons because....................................i think is perfectly reasonable but like anything else theres ways of going about things ive got black pals who know my feelings and opinions it doesnt change the respect we have for each other as any hostility is approached in the right way and talked out like men..........never been a problem.

 

I can agree with that . Just because you dont like people doesnt mean you have to be horrible to them

Why would you care ?.........I mean logically if you really hold someone in zero regard why would it even matter ? Get my drift ?

[WILF 46,588]

 

 

 

 

 

Lots of people on here go on about how other ethnic groups are this or are that there are good and bad in every race creed and culture in England and around the world don't get me wrong I'm not saying we should let all comers in but we as a race should look with in at our useless nasty c**ts before we point our fingers at others . I totally believe if we were in a 3rd world country or in a country living in poverty most of us would do what ever necessary to provide for our families

 

These are the sort of wishy washy comments i find hard to stomach in todays society you say there is good and bad in every race creed and culture in England........tell me what good there is within for example the Somalian or Nigerian communities in England ?....im sure they are good to each other but what do they have to offer England or English people ?....they have no desire to embrace our culture thats why they set up their own communities they detest us as people and came here purely to exploit us.......so wheres the good ?.........its this type of " good and bad in all people " trendy bullshit sayings that are used to control peoples opinions.....its perfectly natural for an Englishman to dislike races who are generally unclean in their habits,who dont share the same values we do,who have a basic dislike for us in our own country........why should we feel so terrified of voicing those opinions go to Somalian neighborhoods they are disgusting what is there to like about these people ?........so am i wrong for pointing that out.

Always hard not sound like I am being a funny c**t in the written word but a genuine question mate.......what's the difference between what you are saying in that reply and them lads actually saying it out loud in that resturuant ?

Come on Wilf you are a well lived chap theres ways you do things and theres ways you dont do things a group of lads with no etiquette acting c**ts in a restaurant because they can doesnt just go against dining rules it go,s against man rules.

And I understand that completely mate but say it wasn't "because they can" maybe it was genuinely how they felt and they said it and didn't really care if they could or not.

no just bullys if it was lennox lewis sat there with his family they would have said f**k all

Really ?.........I mean you if you genuinely hold a principal why would you give a f**k about what harm you came to sticking to it?

That's just a lack of basic fibre that is.

[Waz 4,252]

What Does Being British Mean To You?

[Welsh_red 4,614]

 

 

 

Well as I have tried (not very successfully by the looks!) to point out its one thing to say "I don't give a monkeys, I say what I like" but when you actually give an example of that mantra in action everyone is f***ing mortified !

The fact is, nobody just says what they like when they feel like it because it's a bridge too far and very often it's not the right thing to do.

 

But Wilf what is this " saying what you like " ? ....what does it look like ?

 

Is it just strutting round shouting " i hate coons " ?....because no you cant get away with that anymore.....but having a conversation saying i dont like coons because....................................i think is perfectly reasonable but like anything else theres ways of going about things ive got black pals who know my feelings and opinions it doesnt change the respect we have for each other as any hostility is approached in the right way and talked out like men..........never been a problem.

 

I can agree with that . Just because you dont like people doesnt mean you have to be horrible to them

Why would you care ?.........I mean logically if you really hold someone in zero regard why would it even matter ? Get my drift ?

On a human level i just don't think you should be horrible to someone and make them uncomfortable for no reason . Everyone who doesn't like blacks must understand that not every black person is bad . If they chose to not like them because they they think a vast majority of them are horrible and statistically the likely hood of everyone of them they see are being not to their liking is so high they don't want to bother then fine . But being vocally horrible to them when the chance of the one your being horrible to is a decent bloke is odd to me . Don't know if I'm explaining myself properly tho

[greg64 2,806]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lots of people on here go on about how other ethnic groups are this or are that there are good and bad in every race creed and culture in England and around the world don't get me wrong I'm not saying we should let all comers in but we as a race should look with in at our useless nasty c**ts before we point our fingers at others . I totally believe if we were in a 3rd world country or in a country living in poverty most of us would do what ever necessary to provide for our families

These are the sort of wishy washy comments i find hard to stomach in todays society you say there is good and bad in every race creed and culture in England........tell me what good there is within for example the Somalian or Nigerian communities in England ?....im sure they are good to each other but what do they have to offer England or English people ?....they have no desire to embrace our culture thats why they set up their own communities they detest us as people and came here purely to exploit us.......so wheres the good ?.........its this type of " good and bad in all people " trendy bullshit sayings that are used to control peoples opinions.....its perfectly natural for an Englishman to dislike races who are generally unclean in their habits,who dont share the same values we do,who have a basic dislike for us in our own country........why should we feel so terrified of voicing those opinions go to Somalian neighborhoods they are disgusting what is there to like about these people ?........so am i wrong for pointing that out.

Always hard not sound like I am being a funny c**t in the written word but a genuine question mate.......what's the difference between what you are saying in that reply and them lads actually saying it out loud in that resturuant ?

Come on Wilf you are a well lived chap theres ways you do things and theres ways you dont do things a group of lads with no etiquette acting c**ts in a restaurant because they can doesnt just go against dining rules it go,s against man rules.

And I understand that completely mate but say it wasn't "because they can" maybe it was genuinely how they felt and they said it and didn't really care if they could or not.

no just bullys if it was lennox lewis sat there with his family they would have said f**k all

Really ?.........I mean you if you genuinely hold a principal why would you give a f**k about what harm you came to sticking to it?

That's just a lack of basic fibre that is.

 

I'd put money on it wilf

[Daniel cain 44,993]

I am not british I am Welsh and that means I was born and bred in Gods Country Wales and my family has been here for hundreds of years which means I have no voice or rights.atb dc