A Bit More Practice On Those Standing Shots

[Jonjon79 13,358]

Not bad groups at all Jon.

I will have to give that one a try with hatty.

Do it mate

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I might be able to match your feckin bags if you start shooting left handed

[Jonjon79 13,358]

Shooting JJ

 

 

atb Mark

Cheers Mark

 

...... I'm now wondering how I can get them groups smaller

...... I'd love to be able to take a confident snap shot when I'm on a wander.

[mark williams 7,558]

Practice as you are Jon, you`ll only get better and better.

I listened to a video of Si Pitterway`s after years and years of just " doing it my way". He teaches the army`s thoughts on stance, " artillery hold" I think it was called ? Anyways it improved me with the lighter rifles but it`s harder (for me) with the T Rex for instance, free standing. , from a solid rest, freestanding is a " different story" though .

As you know, most of my air gun hunting involves hides, concealment and solid platforms to shoot from

 

 

atb Mark

 

p.s. Good respectful groups by the way Jon.

[.357shooter 1,231]

sorry have no idea of your experience but you could try a few things.

reduce mag on scope,try 10x if above

take the shot quicker the longer you take the more you will wobble

could try holding the cross hairs above the target and slowly bring them down onto the bull or start from the left of target and bring across to the bull or try it from the right.basically whatever suits you

also try standing with your rifle in position but with your eyes closed and see where you are pointing and adjust your lead leg to bring you on target ie move it 10deg left or right

if you know all of this allready then just practice at home with your rifle and get that muscle memory

[Jonjon79 13,358]

Practice as you are Jon, you`ll only get better and better.

I listened to a video of Si Pitterway`s after years and years of just " doing it my way". He teaches the army`s thoughts on stance, " artillery hold" I think it was called ? Anyways it improved me with the lighter rifles but it`s harder (for me) with the T Rex for instance, free standing. , from a solid rest, freestanding is a " different story" though .

As you know, most of my air gun hunting involves hides, concealment and solid platforms to shoot from

 

 

atb Mark

 

p.s. Good respectful groups by the way Jon.

Thanks Mate,

 

I think the artillery hold is to lightly support the rifle in the forward hand.

..... I'll happily admit that, after a few shots, it's a b*****d to do with the TX.

The 97 does feel easier - I'm still not sure if that's because of the weight or fit of the rifle

 

I'll keep trying

[Jonjon79 13,358]

sorry have no idea of your experience but you could try a few things.

reduce mag on scope,try 10x if above

take the shot quicker the longer you take the more you will wobble

could try holding the cross hairs above the target and slowly bring them down onto the bull or start from the left of target and bring across to the bull or try it from the right.basically whatever suits you

also try standing with your rifle in position but with your eyes closed and see where you are pointing and adjust your lead leg to bring you on target ie move it 10deg left or right

if you know all of this allready then just practice at home with your rifle and get that muscle memory

Thanks for your reply

 

I know a little of your history so, it is appreciated

 

My experience is relatively small - I returned to the sport a couple of years ago after being away for 20 years.

 

I only really hunt - usually off a bipod or sticks but, I do like to test myself with standers at targets. I'm not really confident enough to take a totally unsupported shot on quarry yet - maybe one day.

 

One of the tips that I've found most useful so far came from you and Barrel on BBS - 'Don't hang around, take the shot when it's on'.

 

I'll certainly give the eyes closed/leading leg technique a try

 

Atb

[RSVNelly 518]

Good for shooting round cover so you don't expose yourself, ooh suits you sir!

[mattwhite 1,993]

 

 

 

 

Not bad groups at all Jon.

I will have to give that one a try with hatty.

Do it mate

I might be able to match your feckin bags if you start shooting left handed

Been out for an hour tonight jon and only managed the one but it was a corker at 42 yards. Been practising this week at 40 and 45 yards with hatty and it seems to have worked. As for the big bags, I'm just usually in the right place at the right time I think, plus plenty of coneys to go at?

 

Regarding accuracy, I have found that with the hatsan being light, the artillery hold is spot on but I have added a little tweak that seems to bring the groups tighter.

Everything is the same with the hold, light hold or rest on the fore end and just touching the shoulder with the butt. As for the trigger hand, I have found that thumb up and applying a gentle squeeze forwards with the thumb as the trigger is squeezed and try to avoid any pressure on the pistol grip with your 3 remaining fingers has brought my groups right down nice and tight.

Not sure how that will work with a heavier rifle but it's doing the job for me pal.?

[Jonjon79 13,358]

Good for shooting round cover so you don't expose yourself, ooh suits you sir!

That's always been my problem when I've had a few mate - I'll save those storys for another time

[Jonjon79 13,358]

 

 

 

 

 

Not bad groups at all Jon.

I will have to give that one a try with hatty.

Do it mate

I might be able to match your feckin bags if you start shooting left handed

Been out for an hour tonight jon and only managed the one but it was a corker at 42 yards. Been practising this week at 40 and 45 yards with hatty and it seems to have worked. As for the big bags, I'm just usually in the right place at the right time I think, plus plenty of coneys to go at?

 

Regarding accuracy, I have found that with the hatsan being light, the artillery hold is spot on but I have added a little tweak that seems to bring the groups tighter.

Everything is the same with the hold, light hold or rest on the fore end and just touching the shoulder with the butt. As for the trigger hand, I have found that thumb up and applying a gentle squeeze forwards with the thumb as the trigger is squeezed and try to avoid any pressure on the pistol grip with your 3 remaining fingers has brought my groups right down nice and tight.

Not sure how that will work with a heavier rifle but it's doing the job for me pal.?

You can't down-play your results on here mate

....You've been getting some shit hot results with that springer

 

I'll give you're techniques a try

..... This 97 is pretty snappy and, I want to be as bang on as possible when the warm evenings get here.

 

Cheers Matt.

[bigmac 97kt 13,803]

FECKING GOOD SHOOTING THAT jON

 

CANT SHOOT STANDING AT THE BEST OF TIMES ME NEVER MIND LEFT HANDED

 

VIZ IS A LEFTY BUT CAN SHOOT RIGHT HANDED JUST AS GOOD BUT PREFERS LEFTY

 

ATVBJIMMY :thumbs:

[villaman 9,983]

I will try and do this tomorrow if i can with my 97

[Rabid 1,936]

Well done, some bloody good groups really, I couldn't hit the side of a barn, if I was standing inside it, left handed, got me wanting to try now though