DogMan85 722 Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Back in the day,any dog we had that would not stay with Badgers,was giving to lads doing fox,as he was regarded as no good,so had we better dogs than today.??That's the thing, some were definitely too hard for Pigs back in the day if you wanted them to have a decent stint as a working dog. But we rated the fox dogs as yellow back then.Different folk have different opinions and different standards to others. For some it's just a test of a dogs gameness, seeing them having a short career is no problem if the dog shows to be game. Good Badger dogs did not have short careers,my point is back then the rejects were used for foxes.Any man who puts a dog to ground is testing its gamenes(I use the word gameness loosely).Hard, reckless pig dogs did, then again that doesn't necessarily mean they were good dogs for that quarry. Of course gameness is relative, it's only a word anyway that's left open to interpretation. Edited March 16, 2017 by DogMan85 2 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 A steady dog that will put the pressure on when necessary is what we ALL strive for isn't it? Especially in this day and age. 6 Quote Link to post
Zilverhaze 1,627 Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Yeah I agree with that. But the end result must be the same regardless. To be dug to? Of course that's the name of the game. Not for everyone isit ? Some people want terriers to bolt the fox and not be dug to 1 Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 I cant understand lads who ever they may be culling hardish type terriers.Imo if you keep breeding from sounders in the long term your going to end up with nowt.People can say what they like but pre-ban to try and dig an educated animal with an out and out sounder would be pointless as every time you get within breaking through that animal will push your sounder and be gone where as a hardish type will not allow that to happen,jmo. 8 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Outside of hunting yes mate but we are all aware of what was required of a terrier on a days hunting .To shift that fox or be dug to with an unharmed fox. Hunting days with hounds are far removed from the laid back digging I prefer where a dead fox is no deal breaker . 1 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 I'm not knocking a hard terrier, horses for courses, and fox control to me is fox control. Fatman, I've had just as many digs ruined by hard terriers than I have with soft terriers, sometimes it's just better to leave their game alone but be forceful in their approach. 6 Quote Link to post
kirstysdad 827 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 I keep Bayer mixer types not to hard but keep the game busy and in 1 place until dug few mates keep hard dogs but they do like the sick bay as long as you get the end result ie 1 dog 1 hole that's what matters was out with mate last week had a few digs and I said to him before we started that hard dogs make hard game if you know what I mean by end of day he àgreed 8 Quote Link to post
smasher 1,055 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Out and out sounders are no good for quarry that's clued in,I had one here couple years back,had 56 digs over him towards the end of his second season,some very good digs in big places,but got caught one day and was never the same after,he made sure it was never goin to happen again and start letting stuff past."there's nothing wrong with a hard terrier but I've buried a few tat were too hard for there own good,some handle themselves better than others 2 Quote Link to post
marshman 7,758 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Well I don't Mr Finlay only what I've read about him or heard second hand. So all I can say is he sounds like he knows what a worker is whatever graft style or whoever bred it ? 3 Quote Link to post
wilbur foxhound 480 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 I'm sure he had Jc on loan Quote Link to post
Dafty90 5 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Finley never said dingo dog was breed by himself always used to say didn't know how he was bred but always worked to a high standard Must have been a fair dog as nick used him on roxy I've had dogs off Finley for many years all made the grade and never charged a penny for pups or breeding 5 Quote Link to post
Tallywacker 262 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Surely though TW the men who were around NS at the time and are still going strong since hes packed in deserve some recognition too?only a few of the ns brigade deserve recognition! 1 or 2 members of the brigade who have there own following, are just hell bent on cashing in on ns hard work! Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 I'm sure he had Jc on loan They were all on loan 1 Quote Link to post
wilbur foxhound 480 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 I'm sure he had Jc on loan They were all on loan even the black ones,wf Quote Link to post
Waz 4,265 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Surely though TW the men who were around NS at the time and are still going strong since hes packed in deserve some recognition too?only a few of the ns brigade deserve recognition! 1 or 2 members of the brigade who have there own following, are just hell bent on cashing in on ns hard work! Not new as with any 'line' or 'type' of terrier. With that in mind can you really blame NS on keeping things close to his chest and enjoying watching people being led up the garden path? 2 Quote Link to post
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