TOMO 27,020 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 07/03/2017 at 21:02, F@ Larry said: On 07/03/2017 at 19:11, nans pat said: bout between 40 n 60k...certain tribe here were at it.. is there any up the road, i know somebody went in there for service of a hyena it didnt go well for the bitch lol,,only in ireland,,,,different species 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 07/03/2017 at 19:23, Lab said: These air rifles lads again no doubt!!!...? It's true, it was me, I saw it's eye shine on night vision and thought it was a rabbit It took feckin ages to wring it's neck to finish it off - I knew I should have taken the .22 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 08/03/2017 at 19:15, Jonjon79 said: On 07/03/2017 at 19:23, Lab said: These air rifles lads again no doubt!!!...?It's true, it was me, I saw it's eye shine on night vision and thought it was a rabbit It took feckin ages to wring it's neck to finish it off - I knew I should have taken the .22 I knew it.....no doubt testing yourself at 65yards free standing. Well I hope your proud of yourself. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,777 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 08/03/2017 at 19:15, Jonjon79 said: On 07/03/2017 at 19:23, Lab said: These air rifles lads again no doubt!!!... It's true, it was me, I saw it's eye shine on night vision and thought it was a rabbit It took feckin ages to wring it's neck to finish it off - I knew I should have taken the .22 There's me thinking it was Matt with the hatsan lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 08/03/2017 at 19:25, forest of dean redneck said: On 08/03/2017 at 19:15, Jonjon79 said: On 07/03/2017 at 19:23, Lab said: These air rifles lads again no doubt!!!...It's true, it was me, I saw it's eye shine on night vision and thought it was a rabbit It took feckin ages to wring it's neck to finish it off - I knew I should have taken the .22 There's me thinking it was Matt with the hatsan lol Feck me, the way Matt's going, he'll end up making Dan Mills redundant Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,777 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 08/03/2017 at 19:43, Jonjon79 said: On 08/03/2017 at 19:25, forest of dean redneck said: On 08/03/2017 at 19:15, Jonjon79 said: On 07/03/2017 at 19:23, Lab said: These air rifles lads again no doubt!!!...It's true, it was me, I saw it's eye shine on night vision and thought it was a rabbit It took feckin ages to wring it's neck to finish it off - I knew I should have taken the .22 There's me thinking it was Matt with the hatsan lol Feck me, the way Matt's going, he'll end up making Dan Mills redundant It was the pull through that done it wonder if he will see this pmsl 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 On 07/03/2017 at 21:02, F@ Larry said: On 07/03/2017 at 19:11, nans pat said: bout between 40 n 60k...certain tribe here were at it.. is there any up the road, i know somebody went in there for service of a hyena it didnt go well for the bitch Well since hyenas aren't dogs it was never going to go well really was it, may aswell have tried lining it with a lion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 The horn was supposed to be worth £250,000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,832 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 It's a bit shit but peanuts compared to the two every day that are poached in SA's Kruger National Park. It does make me laugh that when hauls of black market horn and ivory are confiscated the result is to destroy them as some sort of symbol or statement. Far more sensible, although uncomfortable for the environmentalist sorts, would be to flood the market and consequentially conservation budgets with these confiscated gains. The market doesn't just disappear with lack of supply, it drives the price up making the risk of poaching more rewarding! It's time conservationists had a dose of realism and pragmatism... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The one 8,514 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Thats what the immigrants are up to now they demolished there village Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 On 09/03/2017 at 11:04, Born Hunter said: It's a bit shit but peanuts compared to the two every day that are poached in SA's Kruger National Park. It does make me laugh that when hauls of black market horn and ivory are confiscated the result is to destroy them as some sort of symbol or statement. Far more sensible, although uncomfortable for the environmentalist sorts, would be to flood the market and consequentially conservation budgets with these confiscated gains. The market doesn't just disappear with lack of supply, it drives the price up making the risk of poaching more rewarding! It's time conservationists had a dose of realism and pragmatism... Thats a bit of a short sighted view in itself though as you will grow the market for the products and when you run out of stock, there will be a higher demand than ever, they should flood the market with fake horn (toe nail clippings) that would take the shine off these fancy parties once word got round they were drinking toenails Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,832 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) On 09/03/2017 at 16:00, JDHUNTING said: On 09/03/2017 at 11:04, Born Hunter said: It's a bit shit but peanuts compared to the two every day that are poached in SA's Kruger National Park. It does make me laugh that when hauls of black market horn and ivory are confiscated the result is to destroy them as some sort of symbol or statement. Far more sensible, although uncomfortable for the environmentalist sorts, would be to flood the market and consequentially conservation budgets with these confiscated gains. The market doesn't just disappear with lack of supply, it drives the price up making the risk of poaching more rewarding! It's time conservationists had a dose of realism and pragmatism... Thats a bit of a short sighted view in itself though as you will grow the market for the products and when you run out of stock, there will be a higher demand than ever, they should flood the market with fake horn (toe nail clippings) that would take the shine off these fancy parties once word got round they were drinking toenails Why would it necessarily grow the market? They're not increasing supply just taking the revenue from what part of it they can catch. And it's not a stand alone solution, it's a means of making things better than they are. It's all very well pretending that these things don't have a value and burning them to prove it, unfortunately it's totally ideological. These animals have a high value on the black market and they're being raped because of it. Making them more valuable and ignoring an obvious revenue to protect them doesn't help them at all. It's time to try something new. Not sure how you are going to kid someone that a bag of toe nails is a rhino horn, lol. Edited March 9, 2017 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 On 09/03/2017 at 16:18, Born Hunter said: On 09/03/2017 at 16:00, JDHUNTING said: On 09/03/2017 at 11:04, Born Hunter said: It's a bit shit but peanuts compared to the two every day that are poached in SA's Kruger National Park. It does make me laugh that when hauls of black market horn and ivory are confiscated the result is to destroy them as some sort of symbol or statement. Far more sensible, although uncomfortable for the environmentalist sorts, would be to flood the market and consequentially conservation budgets with these confiscated gains. The market doesn't just disappear with lack of supply, it drives the price up making the risk of poaching more rewarding! It's time conservationists had a dose of realism and pragmatism... Thats a bit of a short sighted view in itself though as you will grow the market for the products and when you run out of stock, there will be a higher demand than ever, they should flood the market with fake horn (toe nail clippings) that would take the shine off these fancy parties once word got round they were drinking toenails Why would it necessarily grow the market? They're not increasing supply just taking the revenue from what part of it they can catch. And it's not a stand alone solution, it's a means of making things better than they are. It's all very well pretending that these things don't have a value and burning them to prove it, unfortunately it's totally ideological. These animals have a high value on the black market and they're being raped because of it. Making them more valuable and ignoring an obvious revenue to protect them doesn't help them at all. It's time to try something new. Not sure how you are going to kid someone that a bag of toe nails is a rhino horn, lol. Ha I'm working on the presumption its ground up prior to sale though turning up to a party with a 4ft rhino horn would definitely have the ladies flocking round! It'll never stop aslong as the government's of the countries that buy them want it to so economic sanctions are probably the way forward. There's vast amounts of money already in animal conservation so thinking out loud I'm sure other steps could be taken, you could get something like the alarm systems they use in old folks homes that send a signal when they fall over or there heart stops, send it to a rapid reaction force with a chopper and bobs your mother's brother? Probably stupid but if someone clever can't think of how to stop people killing a few hundred 3 tonne rhino then there's summat wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,949 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) scientists should genetically modify them where they dont grow horns that soon stop it Edited March 9, 2017 by Lenmcharristar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 On 09/03/2017 at 19:56, Lenmcharristar said: scientists should genetically modify them where they dont grow horns that soon stop it They would be pointless...... ??? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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