desertbred 5,490 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) The hares were lightweight and quite leggy not as Quick as the UK brown hares but tough and up for a run . they could go all day born at altitude and had wind to spare.Game seems sparse but I think its the vastness of the Terrain rather than a lck of stuff. They fly to Eagles a lot especially in Mongolia as for them its meat on the table more than a passtime. As you drop from the Steps and into , Kazakstan, Azerbhaijan, Khurdistan Uzbekhistan the hounds are Saluki or heavily saturated saluki influenced. they all seemed to have good feet and the higher up heavier coats. The vast expanse of the Steppes is something to see not for daywalking thats for sure, ponies were the prefered mode of transport so you would walk like john Wayne after an hour or two the locals could ride all day the dogs will range off hunting up and the birds will be loosed to get up and the dogs watch the birdssoring soon as they see thebirdshovering some times what seems like miles away the dogs are off with the hunters on the ponies following and the huntis on.. Must put it on my bucket list again before get to old LOL Edited March 4, 2017 by desertbred 10 Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,707 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 I thought the USA dogs had borzoi in them? Now there is a useless piece of equipment for hare coursing. have you seen the vids of the russians hare coursing db,,,,they use some working borzio,,,and cross breds with grey and saluki...difrent to our show bred dogs.. Pretty sure the Irish had similar bred dogs? Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,707 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 The hares were lightweight and quite leggy not as Quick as the UK brown hares but tough and up for a run . they could go all day born at altitude and had wind to spare.Game seems sparse but I think its the vastness of the Terrain rather than a lck of stuff. They fly to Eagles a lot especially in Mongolia as for them its meat on the table more than a passtime. As you drop from the Steps and into , Kazakstan, Azerbhaijan, Khurdistan Uzbekhistan the hounds are Saluki or heavily saturated saluki influenced. they all seemed to have good feet and the higher up heavier coats. The vast expanse of the Steppes is something to see not for daywalking thats for sure, ponies were the prefered mode of transport so you would walk like john Wayne after an hour or two the locals could ride all day the dogs will range off hunting up and the birds will be loosed to get up and the dogs watch the birdssoring soon as they see thebirdshovering some times what seems like miles away the dogs are off with the hunters on the ponies following and the huntis on.. Must put it on my bucket list again before get to old LOL Seen pics of tazi x flock guardian hunting dogs,did you see any similar ones when over there DB? Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 The Taiga a Mongolian dual purpose guard hunting dog seen them crossed with Saluki hard as nails will tackle anything bit heavy for quick stuff but game as they come usually from accidental matings ,Penty of heavey flock Guards Afghan Koochi, Kangol from Turkey produce heavey hunting dogs when out crossed for a couple of generations to running dogs usually for wolf etc, Tazi is just regional dialect for a saluki. 6 Quote Link to post
Guest edrd Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) . Edited March 22, 2017 by edrd Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Desert bred, you bring your champion, up in December or Jan,2017//18 give the hare only 50 yards start, and that dog of yours and you are going back down the road with your tail between your legs, one of the top coursing dogs was up here on thursday, ran 3 done two, other bitch, done the same 3 runs done two, Again I thank Dan for putting up the video, those Hares were flying and they were not waiting for any dog to catch them, Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) Desert bred, you bring your champion, up in December or Jan,2017//18 give the hare only 50 yards start, and that dog of yours and you are going back down the road with your tail between your legs, one of the top coursing dogs was up here on thursday, ran 3 done two, other bitch, done the same 3 runs done two, Again I thank Dan for putting up the video, those Hares were flying and they were not waiting for any dog to catch them, LOL I notice your clown talk starts at the end of the season you dont even know my dogs. I would hope any dog would catch in March ! top coursing dogs lol ffs give it a rest . I often wondered about lads bringing pups and young stock up North of the border to school them? It must be because of the superior stuff up there. . Edited March 4, 2017 by desertbred 1 Quote Link to post
Saluki246 1,053 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 The hares were lightweight and quite leggy not as Quick as the UK brown hares but tough and up for a run . they could go all day born at altitude and had wind to spare.Game seems sparse but I think its the vastness of the Terrain rather than a lck of stuff. They fly to Eagles a lot especially in Mongolia as for them its meat on the table more than a passtime. As you drop from the Steps and into , Kazakstan, Azerbhaijan, Khurdistan Uzbekhistan the hounds are Saluki or heavily saturated saluki influenced. they all seemed to have good feet and the higher up heavier coats. The vast expanse of the Steppes is something to see not for daywalking thats for sure, ponies were the prefered mode of transport so you would walk like john Wayne after an hour or two the locals could ride all day the dogs will range off hunting up and the birds will be loosed to get up and the dogs watch the birdssoring soon as they see thebirdshovering some times what seems like miles away the dogs are off with the hunters on the ponies following and the huntis on.. Must put it on my bucket list again before get to old LOL Very interesting, thanks for that DB. Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,677 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 The hares were lightweight and quite leggy not as Quick as the UK brown hares but tough and up for a run . they could go all day born at altitude and had wind to spare.Game seems sparse but I think its the vastness of the Terrain rather than a lck of stuff. They fly to Eagles a lot especially in Mongolia as for them its meat on the table more than a passtime. As you drop from the Steps and into , Kazakstan, Azerbhaijan, Khurdistan Uzbekhistan the hounds are Saluki or heavily saturated saluki influenced. they all seemed to have good feet and the higher up heavier coats. The vast expanse of the Steppes is something to see not for daywalking thats for sure, ponies were the prefered mode of transport so you would walk like john Wayne after an hour or two the locals could ride all day the dogs will range off hunting up and the birds will be loosed to get up and the dogs watch the birdssoring soon as they see thebirdshovering some times what seems like miles away the dogs are off with the hunters on the ponies following and the huntis on.. Must put it on my bucket list again before get to old LOL Very interesting, thanks for that DB. yeh agreed saluki,,that was an intresting read,,,sounded like a good adventure..cheers db 2 Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,707 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 The Taiga a Mongolian dual purpose guard hunting dog seen them crossed with Saluki hard as nails will tackle anything bit heavy for quick stuff but game as they come usually from accidental matings ,Penty of heavey flock Guards Afghan Koochi, Kangol from Turkey produce heavey hunting dogs when out crossed for a couple of generations to running dogs usually for wolf etc, Tazi is just regional dialect for a saluki. must been interesting visiting Mongolia and Afghan , lot better than the handful of YouTube videos there are. Quote Link to post
Saluki246 1,053 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Love to visit them countrys and see the dogs for myself. I was born and brought up in turkey till i was 9 and can remember seeing lads go hunting with tazis and salukis, my granfather use to have them, sadly, all gone now. 4 Quote Link to post
Straightline 0 Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Have run plenty of Jack Rabbits in Canada, Manitoba and loads of browns all over the UK. Can honestly say that Jacks are a lot harder to catch on average than your brown hare and some of them are huge dwarfing the size of the average brown hare, more gas too. I was running dogs out of Smokey and Captain. Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,139 Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 This might be controversial , But is there another country in the world where legendary hare dogs are bred? Surely the last twenty / thirty years of the saluki crosses running the fens in the hands of those lads have lead to the creation / manipulation of a performance bred dog so specialised at the task of hare coursing that the blood is unequalled anywhere else in the world ? Fair play to the Aussie with their stag hounds , the yanks with their cold bloods and the middle eastern saluki types .... but has there ever been an American foxy? Or an antipodean equivalent to dancer? Interesting post Dan, read Dutch salmons "gazehounds and coursing " as a young one and was amazed at the landscape and the similarity to the dogs kept and owned by my friends Great read and recommended 1 Quote Link to post
tinytiger 840 Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 I thought the USA dogs had borzoi in them? Now there is a useless piece of equipment for hare coursing. have you seen the vids of the russians hare coursing db,,,,they use some working borzio,,,and cross breds with grey and saluki...difrent to our show bred dogs.. Pretty sure the Irish had similar bred dogs?there is a traveller local to me that says there is borzoi in his dogs (or birdseye as he calls it)-they do have a look of borzoi about the head. Quote Link to post
tinytiger 840 Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 This might be controversial , But is there another country in the world where legendary hare dogs are bred? Surely the last twenty / thirty years of the saluki crosses running the fens in the hands of those lads have lead to the creation / manipulation of a performance bred dog so specialised at the task of hare coursing that the blood is unequalled anywhere else in the world ? Fair play to the Aussie with their stag hounds , the yanks with their cold bloods and the middle eastern saluki types .... but has there ever been an American foxy? Or an antipodean equivalent to dancer? Interesting post Dan, read Dutch salmons "gazehounds and coursing " as a young one and was amazed at the landscape and the similarity to the dogs kept and owned by my friends Great read and recommended Byamee (coursing greyhound)-dont think he was ever beaten .(long time ago-had a big enough influence on modern track breed) Quote Link to post
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