Dan McDonough 560 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) This one is for all of the folks in the UK that have seen a fair amount of hare coursing and were wondering how some of the dogs here in the USA compare with the UK stock. I don't know enough to make a fair comparison myself as I run mostly predetors but I'm very interested to hear honest assessments of what you all think. "End of season hunt with Ricky Hickey, Milt Garrett and Melanie Keithley. Ran 3 sets of dogs today. Rabbits 6 dogs 0! We all got out run on these wicked hard running Desert black-tailed jackrabbits today south of Hagerman, New Mexico. The following video features the Quo Vadis pack Remington, Hitch and Sniper. Note the time, distance and terrain this incredible course covers... Proof that running sets of 3 is no piss take!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3GjHiLoia4&feature=youtu.be Edited March 3, 2017 by Dan McDonough 4 Quote Link to post
Dan McDonough 560 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Just click on the first link. Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) The first thing I note the Hare has to run it has no where to go unless it can get to ground and thats unlikely the land it covers. The Hare seemed to fancy it chances it ran a fair whack until it put a turn in.my eyes were straining but looked like they were tracking in behind the Hare and pushing it on , a good courser would get just wide of it so the hare could see it and drop a gear then push on to induce a turn then drop a gear again. I think the Hares make for a good course I think a wizz banger would struggle if it couldnt drop them quickly. good distance covered at a good pace. Edited March 3, 2017 by desertbred 3 Quote Link to post
Dan McDonough 560 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 It would be interesting to put a GPS on the dogs and get the average speed. I run Garmin collars on all my dogs when they are out because I live in timber country but I don't think you could loose a dog out there, ought to be able to see them for miles. 1 Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) They have plenty of acreage to go at thats for sure, what is the density of the hare like there, do you get anything else out on the land antelope ,desertfox etc? Edited March 3, 2017 by desertbred Quote Link to post
DogMan85 722 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Apparently the Jackrabbit is faster than the Brown Hare, they look as though they can shift. 2 Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Keep that lead dog and cull the other two ....... 2 Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,677 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 hard to see lots of it,,,certainly some wide open space you have,,,is it farmland or goverment owned land,,,and do you need permision,,im asuming you do if its farm land....and do you just drive round till you put a hare up? Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Those hares were moving on, Its difficult to make a true assessment, In my opinion, a lot of the UK dogs would be found wanting, IE, that ground is rock hard, you need pace, great feet, and lungs like bellows, and at least 5 minutes in the tank, (((( A special type of dog, 26" to 28" a good long striding dog, a different kettle of fish, + of course a coursing Brain, ((((( as the old saying goes you breed a dog for the land you run on, Thank you for the video, well done, 1 Quote Link to post
DogMan85 722 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Keep that lead dog and cull the other two ....... That doesn't mean they would run that way single handed. 1 Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Keep that lead dog and cull the other two ....... That doesn't mean they would run that way single handed. Do you think those dogs were working as a pack ??? ..... Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Those hares were moving on, Its difficult to make a true assessment, In my opinion, a lot of the UK dogs would be found wanting, IE, that ground is rock hard, you need pace, great feet, and lungs like bellows, and at least 5 minutes in the tank, (((( A special type of dog, 26" to 28" a good long striding dog, a different kettle of fish, + of course a coursing Brain, ((((( as the old saying goes you breed a dog for the land you run on, Thank you for the video, well done, A paceySaluki born for the things you describe 3 Quote Link to post
slip lead 862 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Seen some fast hares but never seen a fox do 48mph, bet you bull x fellas are aswell lol Quote Link to post
Dan McDonough 560 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Not sure. I haven't hunted where they are running. I've ran in Arizona and done some hiking in Nevada. There are areas that are loaded pretty heavy with hares and some that are not. Others have bunnys and all of them have coyotes, grey fox and bobcats except the really dry areas have no grey fox. Mtn. lions are around but they don't hang out in the flats. I would say there are more hares than any other runnable game. Quote Link to post
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