Few Terriers

[fat man 4,741]

I personally cant/dont see the problem even if it was FD bitch,at the end of the day he gave the bitch away and if he is not happy that she was moved on then he should have made it clear when parting with her in the 1st place that she was to come back to him[1st refusal] if the other party did not want her or if she was not what they wanted,not having a go at FD but thats the way we do things,maybe im wrong.

[dogmandont 9,821]

That's how I see fat man. Not like the bitch was stolen he gave her away. If she was to come back to him and wasn't that's a c**ts trick he should be a bit more picky about who he gives his stock to. Not enough reason in my book to get lads he knows to give someone a visit over picture of a bitch he thinks looks like one of his.

[Kaizer Sozĕ 266]

None of my business but if it is the same bitch I can see both sides. FD gave away the bitch to someone he trusted. A bitch thats part of a breeding plan. Who knows maybe a critical part in the future of a line. When you give away a terrier that dog goes back to you if its going anywhere. Obviously the 'snake' broke that trust and she went elsewhere. Whats this got to do with Sweeper? More than likely nothing! Probably an innocent party in all this. I think FD realises this as he has wished Sweeper all the best with her. But if this is the case and can be proven within reason then IMO there is a moral obligation to return the bitch. That said, maybe after a litter has been taken off her first or something to that effect. Most Decent terriermen would appreciate a gesture like this and who knows it may pay off..JMO

[Haiddheliwr 1,911]

I agree with you lads I am guessing that Sweeper was the innocent party in all this! But it is FD's business and I have no doubt he will come to a satisfactory conclusion which he alone is entitled to!

[dillydog 8,463]

If I had brought the bitch in good faith and found out all this shit was behind it, it would be going back, no questions asked.

The trouble with giving good stock to people is they hardly ever stick to any sort of agreement, after thirty years in the game it makes for a bitter twisted view point.

I can see both sides myself but if I had the bitch she'd be either going home or I'd at least offer a day up so he could see her in the flesh.

[smasher 1,055]

There's an unwritten rule amongst terriermen,dog always comes back to owner when parting,if it's been gifted,if money has changed hands then that rule goes out the window

[Plucky1 1,119]

I have gifted a few terriers that have been part of my breeding plan mainly as back up in case anything happened to mine from the same litter, I make it quite clear that the terrier must be worked and if they don't get along for any reason then the dog comes back, I pick any stud dog for the first litter and have pick of that resulting litter, after that their debt is paid and they are welcome to do as they like, but if the terrier is sold by me as a pup then I have no hold on it, I always maintain contact regularly with the owners to check on progression work wise of the gifted terriers, lads that have been given terriers by me know the type of person I am and I will take them back by "ANY" means be it fair or foul, on occasion I have had to kick a few doors in to retrieve "my property" because they have either left it in a run not giving it enough work or I have found out the bitch has been in season and they were looking to breed it without my knowledge, people will say anything to get a free terrier thinking once they have it its theirs, in my book you don't pass on something thats not yours, F.D. I hope you get a satisfactory conclusion, WM

[dogmandont 9,821]

Totally agree with everything yous have said. Just think FD could have been a bit more tactful in dealing with it.

[onion jonny 526]

plucky is your real name jimmy concrete cos your so fecking hard.

[Guest edrd]

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Edited March 22, 2017 by edrd

[C.green 3,231]

I have gifted a few terriers that have been part of my breeding plan mainly as back up in case anything happened to mine from the same litter, I make it quite clear that the terrier must be worked and if they don't get along for any reason then the dog comes back, I pick any stud dog for the first litter and have pick of that resulting litter, after that their debt is paid and they are welcome to do as they like, but if the terrier is sold by me as a pup then I have no hold on it, I always maintain contact regularly with the owners to check on progression work wise of the gifted terriers, lads that have been given terriers by me know the type of person I am and I will take them back by "ANY" means be it fair or foul, on occasion I have had to kick a few doors in to retrieve "my property" because they have either left it in a run not giving it enough work or I have found out the bitch has been in season and they were looking to breed it without my knowledge, people will say anything to get a free terrier thinking once they have it its theirs, in my book you don't pass on something thats not yours, F.D. I hope you get a satisfactory conclusion, WM

So when I asked about 2 pups you bred bieng for sale and you told me they done nowt had been left in a pen and the lads that bought em hoodwinked you why wernt you there getting em back ? Genuine qestion ?

[king 11,972]

1 word sums it up with the gifting of pups in my eyes.

Respect.

If the lad is good enough to gift you a pup have a bit of respect for the lad and the dog.

I've never been gifted a dog in my whole life ive allways payed for a dog.

And only 1 litter ive ever bred.and that was accidental.

The Staff dog i had squeezed through a gap in the run that I wouldn't think was possible.

Untill I seen him in the bitchs run the next morning.

He had a 50p size hole in his front lower leg.getting through that gap.

The randy sod lol.

[fat man 4,741]

1 word sums it up with the gifting of pups in my eyes.

Respect.

If the lad is good enough to gift you a pup have a bit of respect for the lad and the dog.

I've never been gifted a dog in my whole life ive allways payed for a dog.

And only 1 litter ive ever bred.and that was accidental.

The Staff dog i had squeezed through a gap in the run that I wouldn't think was possible.

Untill I seen him in the bitchs run the next morning.

He had a 50p size hole in his front lower leg.getting through that gap.

The randy sod lol.

He actually got 2 holes lol.

[king 11,972]

 

1 word sums it up with the gifting of pups in my eyes.

Respect.

If the lad is good enough to gift you a pup have a bit of respect for the lad and the dog.

I've never been gifted a dog in my whole life ive allways payed for a dog.

And only 1 litter ive ever bred.and that was accidental.

The Staff dog i had squeezed through a gap in the run that I wouldn't think was possible.

Untill I seen him in the bitchs run the next morning.

He had a 50p size hole in his front lower leg.getting through that gap.

The randy sod lol.

 

He actually got 2 holes lol.

Lol you are right fm I bet he made the second hole a bit bigger than a 50p aswell.

[bull mcabe 595]

I can definitely see both sides of the equation. It's just an unfortunate situation and it does happen occasionly. It happened to me recently enough with a man I held in high regard selling a v well bred pup id gifted him and it being said she was to come back to me but once bitten twice shy. I'd never do it myself as I'd hate to have my front door kicked in and be bet to death with a computer keyboard haha