jeemes 4,462 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 They all look to bulky for their little legs, how are they at running? I can't see why you would choose a Whippet/Bull over a Greyhound/Bull. If running is on the agenda,with any real purpose,then the infusion of Bull is a wasted exercise, unless its diluted to an extent that makes the Bull a lesser ingredient to the recipe. The real purpose of running with a catch dog is for it to have enough speed and agility to gain on and overcome its quarry. The Bull possesses everything to do with catching,including bite,tolerance to pain,and sheer desire to secure and maintain a hold far longer in the worst of conditions than any other breed. In short, Bulls answer most questions with there teeth,where a Greyhound does the same with its legs. To turn your point on its head I would suggest that instead of infusing Bull into a strain we should think more of infusing the running skills of Greyhounds into the Bull. I find that the infusion of running blood into a Bull gets him to the job,and you can leave the rest to him. 8 Quote Link to post
blackstaff 488 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 It's good points you've made there bud for sure, but what about if you only wanted a smaller version of a bull grey ? I do a lot of ferreting and my dogs don't lose a lot of speed through cover, a larger dog wouldn't manage that ? Horses for courses I suppose Quote Link to post
C.green 3,229 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 It's good points you've made there bud for sure, but what about if you only wanted a smaller version of a bull grey ? I do a lot of ferreting and my dogs don't lose a lot of speed through cover, a larger dog wouldn't manage that ? Horses for courses I suppose I have to say those little dogs around cover allways seem to get something rolled over owned a small bull/grey about 23tts had allsorts of venison on big bracken banks and around bramble and heavy woodland sport of kings. 3 Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,064 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 i remember when f1,,,,first cross proper pit bulls,,crossed with a greyhound,,,were only around the 22-25 inch range,,,most bitches being 22-23 inch,,,and dogs a little bigger,,,ive always wondered how these big 27 inch types come from,,,as real pit bulls are not that tall,,,,im going back to the late ,s and early 90's when me and my mates had them....they were fast agile athletec dogs ,, 9 Quote Link to post
C.green 3,229 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 From what I seen bull on both sides throws bigger the dogs than first crosses Tomo. Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,064 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 thats possibly what it is mate,,line bred stuff,,although my mate whos big in to his bull crosses,,always reconed it was down to mastive,,,or american bulldog blood being added,,, heres a pic of one of his,,,this is a good few years ago now,,,as shes been dead many years,,and its not the best pic of her cos shes sat down,,,the black bitch was half pit,,,the other half was 3/4 grey 1/4 whipp......shes next to my 1/4 kelpie x 3/4 whipp/grey bitch who was the same hight,,but a few pounds havier believe it or not... and that black bitch ,,had an incredible nose daytime... 7 Quote Link to post
blackstaff 488 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Brilliant night on the lamp there Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,462 Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 i remember when f1,,,,first cross proper pit bulls,,crossed with a greyhound,,,were only around the 22-25 inch range,,,most bitches being 22-23 inch,,,and dogs a little bigger,,,ive always wondered how these big 27 inch types come from,,,as real pit bulls are not that tall,,,,im going back to the late ,s and early 90's when me and my mates had them....they were fast agile athletec dogs ,, The tallness comes from the Greyhound and so does a lot of the weight. Pitbulls vary a lot in size and shape (but not to that extent) and also in attitude how they go about work. Some are laid back quite boys and others are hyperactive buzz saws. To my way of thinking anything more greyhound than 5/8 s and 26 at shoulder is too much grey. A bull lurcher should want to do more than hold imo. The only way to breed them is in and line breeding to retain the desired traits others have worked hard to create. I think they are already becoming rare which ironically is due to there over popularity a few years ago and the inevitable scatter breeding that takes place through greed and ignorance. 3 Quote Link to post
'sully' 1,119 Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 A quick update , 14 months now, ace has seen abit and nothing bothers him, the bitch has only seen rabbits so far 3 Quote Link to post
jetro 5,349 Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 Looking fit and dandy sully. Was just wondering about them today. Quote Link to post
jetro 5,349 Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 The bitch looks a bit more muscled up since the last pics I saw of her. Atb j 1 Quote Link to post
'sully' 1,119 Posted March 25, 2017 Report Share Posted March 25, 2017 The bitch looks a bit more muscled up since the last pics I saw of her. Atb j Aye pal, plenty good feeding and plenty of outing, totally different bitch now Quote Link to post
Achilles_13 1 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Lovely pair of dogs ! What size are they ? How are they at home ? ( Looking to get a nice mooching dog since I moved here, loads of rabbits about but terrain can be on the rough side, lots of brush and only small fields.) ATB ! Quote Link to post
Dead Eyes 681 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 The bigger bull crosses come from pet bulls. Blues/ or being bred simply because they're ed noses etc They're what most people *imagine* bulls to be but are always bigger and heavier That being said, they do add enough power and strength and drive to get the job done. But they're no game dogs 1 Quote Link to post
'sully' 1,119 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Lovely pair of dogs ! What size are they ? How are they at home ? ( Looking to get a nice mooching dog since I moved here, loads of rabbits about but terrain can be on the rough side, lots of brush and only small fields.) ATB ! There both 21 tts but I no longer have the bitch as the begin fighting and I had to make a decision so I choose my black dog which I've had since a pup. Quote Link to post
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