Bull X Pup

[Jackbullx 12]

Hi I have just picked up a bull grey x saluki bull grey, his name is bear and he's coming up to 4 months old, i know I am going to start him on rabbits, but does anybody have any advice about training him and obidience

Thanks a lot jack

[tb25 4,627]

Bond bond bond..The rest should com3 with it..At 4 months most the basic stuff should be done.come and stay is he only thing I bother with the rest is up to them but when i stay or come I mean it

[Casso 1,261]

The simplest method of ensuring a group connection, forming a group mind,

Is by the pup feeling 100%safe around you and curtailing him so he can't f**k up and have to be disciplined,

I leave a long line on a pup that age out, I just grasp it up if I see him acting the maggot,

 

Only feed him out not out of a bowl at home ,it all conditions how a pup relates to you in the field

 

Training at home is not trained for the field, environments evoke different mindsets ,different mindset promote different behaviors

Walk in calm natural areas , try cutting down on the amount of stimulation the pup is exposed to,

if you don't hyper stimulate , telly , fussing ,kids constantly petting , attention , you will find you rear a grounded pup whose happy in its own skin and doesn't whine for hours on end not because it has a bad temperment as some folks believe but because stimulation in equates excitement out in the form of a constantly biting and annoying pup

 

Very few dogs are moved on because they can't catch a rabbit the vast majority are f****d out because they've been turned into b*****ds to live with at home and in the field

[Jackbullx 12]

I will be honest he lives in doors with myself, I have a 3 year old son and they are the best of friends and he is always constantly cuddling the dog playing with him etc. Is this bad for the dog should I try not to encourage this, I know I shouldn't play tug of war games with him as this will cause all sorts of problems later down the line, any help is greatly appreciated thanks

[Casso 1,261]

Raise him nice and slow lad , he don't need to encounter everything in the world before a certain age or he'll grow up to be a rehab case , this early socialising is currently in vogue and the reality is dogs are becoming more aggressive today not less

Hsnd feed, don't over stimulate, let him get plenty of sleep and don't worry about training til the pup trusts you 100%

[terryd 8,600]

I think casso is bang on. Cool and calm is the way to go the least excitement the better. Don't start any little habits off that might seem fun now but will be a pain in the ass later. Like a wise fella once told me its easier to get a dog to do some thing than stop it doing some thing after its started the habit. When the dog sees you get the lead out you don't want him doing cartwheels you want him laying down calm waiting. Thats about the only thing i got right with mine lol

Don't put him in positions where he can screw up and think long term years rather than months and it will all come together nicely espeacially if you haven't fallen out with him because you put him in a position he wasnt ready for

Just my experience with mine in how not to do things

Edited February 18, 2017 by terryd

[Jackbullx 12]

Thanks for the help people it is really appreciated, we go for walks over the country parks and what have you and he seems to notice every little noise no matter what, is the best way to start him on the lamp to let him watch other dogs run on it, obviously this can't be done until a year old I was told thanks

Jack

[terryd 8,600]

Thanks for the help people it is really appreciated, we go for walks over the country parks and what have you and he seems to notice every little noise no matter what, is the best way to start him on the lamp to let him watch other dogs run on it, obviously this can't be done until a year old I was told thanks

Jack

 

just you the dog and some easy bunnies

[Casso 1,261]

look at it this way bud, from the time a pup is born he must overcome resistance in the form of his own body and his litter mates to feed and it's the first , hunt chase and kill it ever experienced, that process is replayed it's whole life in a working dog, it's the best he can feel

 

So if we enforce any element of resistance into a dogs life we tune him back into the feelgood factor of sucess in the original overcoming and we include us , so when I hand feed a pup from early making him push against one hand to get what he wants in the other , I'm reinforcing my self as a part of that feel good feeling and he begins to get a feel about me NOT because of the food which is an automatic oral response but by placing myself in the picture of how he gets a good feeling

 

Then I take that out into somewhere rural and do the same, I'm not going to encounter much resistance as the pup grows in the home for him to overcome , it becomes easy to have a pup really push in the house

 

Everything he encounters offers resistance to the pup cause all he wants to do is f**k shit up by biting and shaking it's a state where he's at his most open and infantile, it's the first kill again , that what he want to do to everything if he's made of the right stuff ,

so I keep him honest with a long line and I use his drive to make contact to everything as a way of channelling into me again ,

it's all the same energy but this time I'm in the loop through feeding , what I offer is resistance he can overcome in the form of food or tug item if he can overcome something he can get back to feeling good again

[Jackbullx 12]

Some great replies there thank you so much

[Fieldsporthunter 1,864]

Nothing wrong with playing tug of war games, I teach my dog to leave hold on command.

[terryd 8,600]

yes can come in handy further down the line

[Jackbullx 12]

Oh right I have read the understanding of the working lurcher by Jackie drakeford and it advises against this but I suppose the breed of the dog temperament etc has a lot to play in it, everybody has there own preferences and I suppose each dog is different thanks guys