rippem 455 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Were i live in the usa, in Illinois by the Wisconsin border, we have reds and gray, and black squirrels. I believe the reds are bigger then our grays and the blacks are the same size as the grays. I love eating squirrel but never will try the black ones. 1 Quote Link to post
tank34 2,341 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Were i live in the usa, in Illinois by the Wisconsin border, we have reds and gray, and black squirrels. I believe the reds are bigger then our grays and the blacks are the same size as the grays. I love eating squirrel but never will try the black ones.lol why not the black ones mate ? Quote Link to post
peterhunter86 8,627 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 They have been reintroduced in my area in an effort to reduce the grey squirrel population and boost the Reds numbers, and they are thriving, and in fact, the grey squirrel is nearly gone, not seen any in ages.Will they not kill reds? RacistsFunny enough the same type of conversation came up a while back with a group of us, one lad in particular that is very smart in all aspects of wildlife etc. Said that a Pine Marten will catch grey squirrels but not reds as the reds are too fast and even if the Marten follows the reds out onto thin branches it will stop! as it knows the red is lighter in weight and the Marten won't venture any further onwards in pursuit so the red will in turn, live for another day. I thought about it after and thought that's makes sense, then after more thought I said to myself that has to be total bollocks. If that's the case how does the heavier and larger grey succeed so well in dominating the red squirrel? I wouldn't be that clued in on squirrels by any means. So I never gave it another thought but I'm sure someone will be able to clear it up. Atb. Ive heard that about the reds going on the lighter branchs and the martins cant follow. Quote Link to post
RAMBLERS 26 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 http://www.grey-squirrel.org.uk/reds.php Quote Link to post
The one 8,474 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Once they put something on the protected list its there to stay they dont take them off again after there numbers build up to nuisance levels . now badgers and pine martins will just kill everything in the food chain below them 1 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Not quite true mate .Large scale badger cull coming to a field near you soon . 4 Quote Link to post
MOLE265 792 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Well what about the mink they say they escaped from mink farms but they don't tell you they were helped by the antis they take up residence on a river mark out a territory roughly about a mile long and wipe out 99% of the wildlife in there territory ground nesting birds, waterfowl, tree nesting birds, fish, rabbits, shock horror even the "water vole" which is having to be reintroduced in large areas were it was once common, but the poor old farmers got the blame for that as well loss of habitat they're even getting the blame for the floods well done cwis and all the other antis you's have all the answers!!! Quote Link to post
THE GENERAL 1,982 Posted February 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) Not quite true mate .Large scale badger cull coming to a field near you soon .Just watched an episode of countryfile and they where saying the Irish government are planning on getting the badgers to eat the vaccine they dug a hole outside a set deep enough that a fox wouldn't smell the berry and seed balls mixed with the tb vaccine but the badgers would smell them through the ground. So they dig them up eat them and hey presto. Said it seems to be getting good feedback. Interesting. Edited February 15, 2017 by THE GENERAL 1 Quote Link to post
MOLE265 792 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) Not quite true mate .Large scale badger cull coming to a field near you soon .Just watched an episode of countryfile and they where saying the Irish government are planning on getting the badgers to eat the vaccine they dug a hole outside a set deep enough that a fox wouldn't smell the berry and seeds balls mixed with the tb vaccine but the badgers would smell them through the ground. So they dig them up eat the and hey presto. Said it seems to be getting good feedback. Interesting.And how much will that cost the tax payers .And then the bacteria will build up immunity to the vaccine and then the badgers will need culled. Edited February 15, 2017 by MOLE265 Quote Link to post
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Not quite true mate .Large scale badger cull coming to a field near you soon .Just watched an episode of countryfile and they where saying the Irish government are planning on getting the badgers to eat the vaccine they dug a hole outside a set deep enough that a fox wouldn't smell the berry and seeds balls mixed with the tb vaccine but the badgers would smell them through the ground. So they dig them up eat the and hey presto. Said it seems to be getting good feedback. Interesting. Just watched the same programme, Irish govt far more sensible with the badger problem than the british where culling is concerned Quote Link to post
chesney 5,448 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 The department has done it's fair share of culling over here aswell with there traps and snares and still in areas where the department have been with there traps and snares farms still get locked down with tb. 3 Quote Link to post
onion jonny 526 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Seems your pine martens prefer English too....lol.. could that be whats ment by a full english breakfast 2 Quote Link to post
Lenmcharristar 9,747 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 I've said it numerous times, Don't fix something if isn't broken. These so called conservationists /antis seem to want to protect and reintroduce mostly carnivors and raptors, I don't see this as conservation in any shape or form, the pine martin is a native here why where they treated as vermin because of the damage they do, what did they feed on before grey squirrels where brought here "reds" it's also been documented that the reintroduced goshawks are preying on red squirrels, foxes and badger killing all the ground nesting birds but that dosn't matter because foxes and badgers are cuddly well according to packham & co, it will come back to bite them on the asre but they'll just blame gamekeepers and farmer they're an easy target. Conservationists, don't make me laugh bunch of muppets the lot of them. exactly mole, protect everything predatory and all else will get eaten, then the protected die themselves, nature has a more cruel way of dealing with overpopulation than controlling by hunting. Disease 1 Quote Link to post
rippem 455 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Were i live in the usa, in Illinois by the Wisconsin border, we have reds and gray, and black squirrels. I believe the reds are bigger then our grays and the blacks are the same size as the grays. I love eating squirrel but never will try the black ones.lol why not the black ones mate ? because the black ones started out in a town called crystal lake, the only place we saw them. Now there all over. Not sure were the color came from but dont wanna take a chance and eat one. Quote Link to post
Waz 4,253 Posted February 15, 2017 Report Share Posted February 15, 2017 Were i live in the usa, in Illinois by the Wisconsin border, we have reds and gray, and black squirrels. I believe the reds are bigger then our grays and the blacks are the same size as the grays. I love eating squirrel but never will try the black ones.lol why not the black ones mate ?because the black ones started out in a town called crystal lake, the only place we saw them. Now there all over. Not sure were the color came from but dont wanna take a chance and eat one. iz it coz de iz blak? 1 Quote Link to post
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