J Smiths Diesel

[Night Walker 591]

Just wondering if anyone can help with a pedigree and a bit of background on j smiths diesel as I have a young Russell with this dog in its pedigree. Pm if preferred thanks in advance if you can help

[davey crocket 37]

The dog was in south Wales for good while. No idea on breeding probably best man to ask is Joe, mate had pup out his daughter around 10 years back and was one earliest I've seen to switch on to work, was hunting anything from practically the nest. Never seemed to be a pup.

[bowfinkle 7]

Diesel and his litter sister were given to Lyn Harber by J Smith before their second season, Lyn dug with the dog well into it's 10th season,I have just spoke to Lyn he has the full pedigree. If you contact Lyn he is willing to give you the full pedigree.

[Night Walker 591]

Thanks for that much appreciated

[Night Walker 591]

Could anybody pm me lyn's phone number or an email address please

[bowfinkle 7]

hunting with lyn today will sort it out and get back to you sap

[Lew 111]

Nice to see lads helping each other out with pedigrees, you don't get that if it's chocolate coloured dogs haha

[Night Walker 591]

Yeah your right there mate, it's understandable sometimes as a lot of effort has gone into breeding but some people just love the smoke and mirrors bullshit surrounding peds. I am genuinely grateful for people's help

[Kaizer Sozĕ 266]

Can never understand the smoke and mirrors bullshit regarding pedigrees. Plenty of those around us too! If a 'GENUINE' lad needs help with pedigrees why not help him out? What do you gain by keeping it to yourself? Only to make it harder for lads to get it right. Who knows maybe with your help they'll produce an out cross you might need yourself in the future! We have pedigrees going back to the 60s passed down to us from the older generation. And we in turn pass it onto the next for the benefit of the line and the sport around us, the way it should be!

[neil cooney 10,416]

Can never understand the smoke and mirrors bullshit regarding pedigrees. Plenty of those around us too! If a 'GENUINE' lad needs help with pedigrees why not help him out? What do you gain by keeping it to yourself? Only to make it harder for lads to get it right. Who knows maybe with your help they'll produce an out cross you might need yourself in the future! We have pedigrees going back to the 60s passed down to us from the older generation. And we in turn pass it onto the next for the benefit of the line and the sport around us, the way it should be!

I agree 99% and the 1% I have a problem with is when your hard work and pride and joys turn up in some other lads pedigree.

You and I might only deal with genuine lads but do the genuine lads you entrust with such info only deal with genuine lads.

In an ideal world, YES, in reality ,NO.

[Kaizer Sozĕ 266]

I hear you Neill but in my opinion that would be a very small price to pay for helping others out & thus benefitting the line and sport in question!

[neil cooney 10,416]

I hear you Neill but in my opinion that would be a very small price to pay for helping others out & thus benefitting the line and sport in question!

IMHO there's those who want a genuine pedigree for themselves, usually good lads, then there's the lads who couldn't make head nor tail of one and don't care.

Then there's those who IMO are the parasite's of the working terrier world and need other men's terriers pedigrees to sell their dirt.

They know who they are.

 

Those parasites are the reason good genuine lads keep their cards close to their chest.

Put yourself in their shoes.

 

If you'd busted your bollocks all your life to have a line of workers worth being proud off, would you leave yourself wide open for some puppy peddling rat to make a lot of money on your name.

Sadly that's what's going on.

 

The funny thing is that the puppy peddlers lies get believed and the man who owns the rights to the breeding gets ridiculed.

[Kaizer Sozĕ 266]

I know of such cases to be fair and I hear what your saying. But there'll always be puppy pedlars with parasitic ways. They'll produce false pedigrees wether good genuine lads give them out or not! And there'll always be those who'll ridicule others given half the chance. Does either make the good genuine lads any less of a terrierman? These to my mind are no reasons not to help out other lads who you KNOW to be genuine! JMO

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

Well said Neil. Got to keep your cards close to your chest until the right lads come along. Wannabes and Bullshitters are ten a penny in the dog world unfortuntely.

[bowfinkle 7]

Hi sorry for the delay, lyn's email is arraelpcs@aol.com lyn said email him any time has all the breeding and can fill you in on what the dog and bitch has done.