RTurlough 160 Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 I read a great greyhound book one time that said "dogs metabolise fat as energy and metabolise carbs as fat". Meaning give your dog carbs (bread, pasta and potatoes) and the dog might store that as fat, but give a dog fat (i.e. beef trimmings) and it uses this directly as energy. The book is words written by one man and read by another so I can't say there is any truth in it but what I do know is there aren't many dogs in the country that will refuse the scraps from a Sunday dinner which is mostly potatoes and gravy! I definitely wouldn't say this would make a fat dog either. Quote Link to post
richlee 73 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I read in a grayhound training manual that making them puke helps puts oxygen into there red blood cells.!?!?! Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 None of my dogs will eat spuds Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 None of my dogs will eat spuds Mine will but it comes out looking like it went in, carrots are the same. If fact a lot of greens and veg just go straight through a dog so I can't see how they're of benefit ,hence the reason most herbivores have several stomachs or carry out refection. Kibble is the same. How is it if you feed a cup of kibble you pick up the equivalent in crap ?????????? That doesn't make sense. Whereas if you fed beef to a dog 'till it's belly is full you just pick up a small amount of crap the next morning. You don't have to be a canine nutritionist to see what I'm getting at. If kibble and flesh had the exact same food value and were the same price the big difference in the amount of crap you've dispose off is a big factor, especially if you've a yard full. 6 Quote Link to post
Mary 352 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Was looking at some greyhound forums last night trying to figure out why trainers make dogs vomit, it's called bileing, they are trying to replicate what a dog does naturally when they eat grass and then throw up, it's to get rid of unwanted or excess bile, it's recommended you do it every 2 or 3 months, there is actually a tablet or liquid you can get if you don't want to get your fingers dirty. Some state no performance improvement, others claim big performance improvement, but the fact is that it goes on a lot. Quote Link to post
Mary 352 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I couldn't watch a man do that without telling him he's a cruel c**t.Imagine going into another mans yard and shooting your mouth off about his methods, a big no no in my book. 1 Quote Link to post
Kaizer Sozĕ 266 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I remember years ago when the hounds & terriers were being fed (they were all fed together before being separated out into their kennels) seeing one of the huntsmans terriers, a dog called Blazer eating lemons from the restaurant slop. He did this on several occasions! Quote Link to post
Mary 352 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Mary .You might want to stick your fingers down your own throat as you are being fed bullshit despite what your eyes saw . Lol, no thanks, I take most things with a pinch of salt fox dropper, irrelevant to me what he does with his dogs or what goes on in his yard, just thought it was interesting so I posted it up. Quote Link to post
RTurlough 160 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Sure that kibble is 90% barley. I bet it is the barley husk not that it matters. Frig the pet food people sell some of that stuff for "sporting dogs" and charge anything from £10-50 for 15kgs but ultimately the dogs are eating sheep feed with a small addition of beef derivatives. I think they get away with it by marketing the protein content i.e. 26% etc. When you look at the hunt kennels their hounds are solid. Eating nothing but deadfall. Like a pack of hyenas! 1 Quote Link to post
Shovel shy 4,033 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 All my dogs 8 beagles 2 terriers and a big lurcher only get fed raw meat. We're coming to the end of the season and none of them are lacking in anything.same as every other season.I don't get all these fancy foods 20%//30%protein. Plenty of raw and plenty of work 6 Quote Link to post
Kaizer Sozĕ 266 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Feed ours on more or less 100% raw flesh, chicken and/or turkey carcasses. The flesh, fat and bone. An ex-hound pack of ours carried out nutritional studies and found it to contain everything required. Hard to beat beef but I think fat & bone containing marrow of some kind would also need to be included to provide the full spectrum of nutrition. Wouldnt entertain dog nuts but fine if thats all you can get. JMO. 4 Quote Link to post
tinytiger 840 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Was looking at some greyhound forums last night trying to figure out why trainers make dogs vomit, it's called bileing, they are trying to replicate what a dog does naturally when they eat grass and then throw up, it's to get rid of unwanted or excess bile, it's recommended you do it every 2 or 3 months, there is actually a tablet or liquid you can get if you don't want to get your fingers dirty. Some state no performance improvement, others claim big performance improvement, but the fact is that it goes on a lot.washing soda a lot of people use-theres stuff called apomorphine thats an eye-biler(a sniff of it gets into a dogs eye/nostril and they nearly puke up their bollix)-very hard to get-think its for parkinsons(whatever they give it to them poor craters for) Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 46,091 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 my terriers and lurchers young or old all get raw-even the house dog lol.I agree with neil in that you pick up very little mess the other end -small dustpan and brush pics up for 4 terriers and a lurcher-atb dc 4 Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 2 days food for 2 terriers £2.50 a turkey leg portion 2 Quote Link to post
king 11,984 Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 I used to buy fresh turkey drumsticks for the pressa yrs ago. He would bite through them like crisps lol. And would love a whole gutted rabbit un skinned. Used to watch him crunching that no effort at all. The Staff bitch i had. Liked rabbit heads the best. But when ferreting she would pile 3 or 4 rabbits up and lye on them. Think she was broody. Quote Link to post
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