desertbred 5,490 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Talks cheap seen anyone blown up or shredded have you? its not a few rounds in a f***ing boxing ring or banter on a football terrace. I'm guessing you have then.... lived with it for years not something to feel good about thats for sure Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,217 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Talks cheap seen anyone blown up or shredded have you? its not a few rounds in a f***ing boxing ring or banter on a football terrace. No and neither do i want to......but id rather it was you than me,your people than my people,your city than my city,your country than my country........thats not cheap talk and its not inciteful its just basic common sense self preservation....you dont feel the same ?....you would rather it was your own folk ?..... these are the times we live in so lets all stop running from our true feelings. Edited January 30, 2017 by gnasher16 2 Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Its like folks say there has to be a better way I dont want myGrandkids or anyone elses dying for the same things that people have for generations fighting conflicts with no tangible end result werent two world wars supposed to put an end to all the slaughter? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,497 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 security (Aman) has to be with the security of Islam, i.e. the authority of Muslims. The evidence for this comes from the saying of Allah (swt), “Allah will not allow the disbelievers to have an authority over the believers.” [TMQ An- Nisa: 141] i.e. it is not allowed for the disbelievers to have authority (Sultan) over the believers, because giving them authority means that the security of Muslims is in the hands of Kufr and not in the hands of Islam. Furthermore, the Prophet (saw) used to order the invasion of every land which did not submit to the Sultan of Muslims, and he used to engage in war against them whether the inhabitants were Muslim or non-Muslim. Anas narrated that: “Wherever the Prophet (saw) raided some people he would not raid except in the morning. If he heard the Adhan he would refrain, and if he did not he would invade after dawn”. And it was narrated by Essam Almusny, who said: “The Prophet (saw) used to tell to the expeditions that he sent: ‘If you` have seen a mosque or heard a call for prayer, then do not kill anybody.’” The Adhan and the mosque are considered symbols of Islam, a matter which indicates that if the land is inhabited by Muslims this does not prevent it from being invaded and fought against as an act of war, but the important factor is that its people will not be killed, yet it will be invaded. This means that it is considered Dar al-Harb or Dar al-Kufr because, though the symbols or rituals of Islam are present, it is not protected by the authority of the Prophet (saw), i.e. the authority and security of Islam. So it would be considered Dar al-Harb (land of war), and like any land defined as Dar al-Harb it would be invaded. It should be clear that whether the population of the land is majority Muslim or not irrelevant in terms of considering it Dar al-Islam as long as the authority lies with the Muslims. http://www.khilafah.com/clarifying-the-meaning-of-dar-al-kufr-a-dar-al-islam/ dunt sound much like a religion of peace do,s it????but then again your not interpreting it right they were just calling for a lovely cup of tea and a chat Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,847 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 they recon the suspect is French Canadian student now Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Talks cheap seen anyone blown up or shredded have you? its not a few rounds in a f***ing boxing ring or banter on a football terrace. No and neither do i want to......but id rather it was you than me,your people than my people,your city than my city,your country than my country........thats not cheap talk and its not inciteful its just basic common sense self preservation....you dont feel the same ?....you would rather it was your own folk ?..... these are the times we live in so lets all stop running from our true feelings.Strong words gnasher, I agree with you but I am never happy to hear of innocent lives lost regardless of colour or creed. But as you say I definitely feel it is going to become a lot more common... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Its like folks say there has to be a better way I dont want myGrandkids or anyone elses dying for the same things that people have for generations fighting conflicts with no tangible end result werent two world wars supposed to put an end to all the slaughter?The only better way I can think of is give muslims there own land and keep them completely out of non muslim lands, muslims don't assimilate and that is a fact. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AXUM 255 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) Never mind all this " rip " bollocks tell it how it is.....if its a white Christian to get blown up or a black Muslim id rather it was a black Muslim.... the way things are going its going to be part of everyday life so best we get used to it and nail our colours to the mast.....its this mamby pamby " respect to everyone " attitude that f****d us in the first place.Where you walshie, giving a blind eye on this one . Bet if it was me youd be all over me . Is it because im black lol Edited January 31, 2017 by AXUM Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Never mind all this " rip " bollocks tell it how it is.....if its a white Christian to get blown up or a black Muslim id rather it was a black Muslim.... the way things are going its going to be part of everyday life so best we get used to it and nail our colours to the mast.....its this mamby pamby " respect to everyone " attitude that f****d us in the first place.Where you walshie, giving a blind eye on this one . Bet if it was me youd be all over me . Is it because im black lol I think it's more to do with how much of a hypocrite you are...kicking up a storm and whining about racism and then creating a thread like that last one you decided to put up Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,972 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 And you want stop banging on about Muslim issues constantly. And putting posts on about Muslim values etc. To be honest Axum I don't think 99% of the members on here have any interest in constantly talking about Muslims. This section is general talk. It's says above. It's not Muslim talk 2 Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Never mind all this " rip " bollocks tell it how it is.....if its a white Christian to get blown up or a black Muslim id rather it was a black Muslim.... the way things are going its going to be part of everyday life so best we get used to it and nail our colours to the mast.....its this mamby pamby " respect to everyone " attitude that f****d us in the first place.Where you walshie, giving a blind eye on this one . Bet if it was me youd be all over me . Is it because im black lol I read the 2 reports you put in yesterday. The poster is stating his opinion. There is nothing racist in the above post IMO, hence nothing to "be all over". I'm not sure what your agenda is, but most of us are pretty tired of it. You can't keep posting inane drivel about muslims, then when someone answers go running to teacher with a report. The other sites you are on think you are a troll, and so do I. Link to post Share on other sites
dark-destroyer-85 636 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Never mind all this " rip " bollocks tell it how it is.....if its a white Christian to get blown up or a black Muslim id rather it was a black Muslim.... the way things are going its going to be part of everyday life so best we get used to it and nail our colours to the mast.....its this mamby pamby " respect to everyone " attitude that f****d us in the first place.Where you walshie, giving a blind eye on this one . Bet if it was me youd be all over me . Is it because im black lol I read the 2 reports you put in yesterday. The poster is stating his opinion. There is nothing racist in the above post IMO, hence nothing to "be all over". I'm not sure what your agenda is, but most of us are pretty tired of it. You can't keep posting inane drivel about muslims, then when someone answers go running to teacher with a report. The other sites you are on think you are a troll, and so do I. hes not reporting us is he if he don't like what's being said ah bless him f***ing grass 2 Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Its like folks say there has to be a better way I dont want myGrandkids or anyone elses dying for the same things that people have for generations fighting conflicts with no tangible end result werent two world wars supposed to put an end to all the slaughter?The only better way I can think of is give muslims there own land and keep them completely out of non muslim lands, muslims don't assimilate and that is a fact. invasions are all western led the so called developed nations so thats a fact foryour record why assimilate with folk who have misconceptions of supremacy ? Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) King most of the topics raised relating to Muslims and Islam on this forum are raised by whom? certainly not Muslims. so your 99% of members are they Trump alternative Facts" your quoting from Its also not soley a forum for Welsh and Scots viewpoints either Edited January 31, 2017 by desertbred Link to post Share on other sites
AXUM 255 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Never mind all this " rip " bollocks tell it how it is.....if its a white Christian to get blown up or a black Muslim id rather it was a black Muslim.... the way things are going its going to be part of everyday life so best we get used to it and nail our colours to the mast.....its this mamby pamby " respect to everyone " attitude that f****d us in the first place. Where you walshie, giving a blind eye on this one . Bet if it was me youd be all over me .Is it because im black lol I read the 2 reports you put in yesterday. The poster is stating his opinion. There is nothing racist in the above post IMO, hence nothing to "be all over". I'm not sure what your agenda is, but most of us are pretty tired of it. You can't keep posting inane drivel about muslims, then when someone answers go running to teacher with a report. The other sites you are on think you are a troll, and so do I. How bout on 9/11 memorial this year on september i post a thread on 9/11 and then say fck saying rip to them better then then us. Or on the train attack in london. That would be a very rude opinion and its inciting hatred . I think there shoukd be some level of decency and respect in a hunting community a bit if this was a lefty anti hunting website snimal right group they would be more respectful and decent. Link to post Share on other sites
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