baldockbanks courser 598 Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 The Boston area held good hares until operation leveret kicked in and even the lads with permission had to stop going. I know Dancer was ran a lot down there before she won the Forley. I've been as far south as Wisbech coursing, but as I've said before, if the South Kyme hares were so easy and the competition won by duffers, why did none of it's critics ever enter and win it themselves. It's easy to try to belittle the men and their dogs who did have success now, but before the ban the simple way to prove a point was to compete and win. I seem to remember less crabbing when that was the case. mostly plough at boston and killing hares on plough don`t count.... none of the critics entered the forley cup because real coursing men won`t have anything to do with anyone who thinks it`s ok to run two dogs on one hare. that`s just one reason, there`s loads more, and what`s the point of running bad hares all the time ? the two dogs you like to talk about the most on here seem to be seagull and foxy, well, they weren`t bred from forley f*****g legends were they ? no pal, they were bred from single handed coursing dogs that were ran on the best hares that could be found. run hares were you like, i`m not bothered.. i just don`t agree with comments about good dogs, they are few and always have been. who keeps giving this fella the thumbs up ? must be his mum and nan ! seagul and joe bred foxy. and they wernt a patch on foxy thereselfs. Do you know micky drew who started that line? if you do ask him if foxy was a forley cup duffer ? mick used to run round duxford, newmarket, royston and baldock there a diffrent hare on diffrent ground to boston but it still takes a good dog to kill them at boston. iv killed hares on peterborogh, boston, royston and baldock all in one week with a bitch breed by micky drew in the same week and i certainlie dont think the boston hares were the weekest by a long way. How can the whole of boston be plough all the time you crank therd never grow anything ! 3 Quote Link to post
carp777 191 Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 And here's where I get to bask in a little bit of reflected glory. I suggested Charlie as a stud for Blondie due to the high number of good coursing animals he was producing......of course Alan didn't need me to tell him that....he can work things out for himself....but all the same I was real chuffed when the mating worked. get a bit fed up with hearing tales like "due to the high number of good coursing animals he was producing ".......... there has never been an abundance of good coursing animals, you can talk all the bollocks you like on here but that`s all it is, bollocks. the forley cup was ran ay south kyme area, where the hares are poor and always have been, the fast dogs that were "legends" in the forley cup would have been blown to bits further down the a17 on good hares, i`v seen many of them turn up for one day and never come again because they can`t kill 3 out of 3, some of them can`t kill one f****r !!!! good dogs have always been scarce but i don`t think many people on here have ever seen one, or understand what a good hare is ! hi mate, i agree with you about how much "bollock's" is written on these forum's regarding coursing ! and especially on the "fen's", and i assume by further on down the A17 you mean "the black land's" !!! now you and i know that with the black land it's the ground underfoot that make's the difference !! if it's soft your dog's got it all on, but i've run the black lands when it's not been soft and they go under the same as the hare's on the brown, it's running condition's that make's the difference !! i was lucky enough to see, Rooster, Bow, Pip and Swoop run amongst other's and i've no doubt that all of the one's i've named would have been more than capable of winnning the Forley under whatever guise it's called !!! However i do think your doing the south kyme and boston hare's "down" a bit !!! late on when the forley was run most of the duffer's would have been killed, as it was poached every day of the week !!!! and i would know again i would say in my experience "ground condition's" are the main deciding factor !! having seen hare's "ball up " in some part's of kyme !! I do agree with you about running and killing on plough !!!!! some of these d.v.d.'s you see make you laugh a lot of these dog's can only kill them on the plough or in the dyke !!! not good in my book and i would'nt give a £100 for a dog that can only catch them on the plough or in dyke's !!!! " if they can't kill em on the green then their not top class !! simple as that !! and out of all the "younger" generation of "great" dog's that i've watched only on d.v.d's i think the outstanding dog was ......................LUCKY "THE DARK DESTROYER" !! Field or fen, black land or brown land, soft or hard that dog caught hare's, and he caught hare's that some of the other recent great's would have struggled with !!! in my opinion and he was "caned" 3 or four times a week 4-5-6- run's a day !!! how many of the other's would have coped with that?? awesome dog !!!!! Quote Link to post
bigliks 601 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 And here's where I get to bask in a little bit of reflected glory. I suggested Charlie as a stud for Blondie due to the high number of good coursing animals he was producing......of course Alan didn't need me to tell him that....he can work things out for himself....but all the same I was real chuffed when the mating worked. get a bit fed up with hearing tales like "due to the high number of good coursing animals he was producing ".......... there has never been an abundance of good coursing animals, you can talk all the bollocks you like on here but that`s all it is, bollocks. the forley cup was ran ay south kyme area, where the hares are poor and always have been, the fast dogs that were "legends" in the forley cup would have been blown to bits further down the a17 on good hares, i`v seen many of them turn up for one day and never come again because they can`t kill 3 out of 3, some of them can`t kill one f****r !!!! good dogs have always been scarce but i don`t think many people on here have ever seen one, or understand what a good hare is ! hi mate, i agree with you about how much "bollock's" is written on these forum's regarding coursing ! and especially on the "fen's", and i assume by further on down the A17 you mean "the black land's" !!! now you and i know that with the black land it's the ground underfoot that make's the difference !! if it's soft your dog's got it all on, but i've run the black lands when it's not been soft and they go under the same as the hare's on the brown, it's running condition's that make's the difference !! i was lucky enough to see, Rooster, Bow, Pip and Swoop run amongst other's and i've no doubt that all of the one's i've named would have been more than capable of winnning the Forley under whatever guise it's called !!! However i do think your doing the south kyme and boston hare's "down" a bit !!! late on when the forley was run most of the duffer's would have been killed, as it was poached every day of the week !!!! and i would know again i would say in my experience "ground condition's" are the main deciding factor !! having seen hare's "ball up " in some part's of kyme !! I do agree with you about running and killing on plough !!!!! some of these d.v.d.'s you see make you laugh a lot of these dog's can only kill them on the plough or in the dyke !!! not good in my book and i would'nt give a £100 for a dog that can only catch them on the plough or in dyke's !!!! " if they can't kill em on the green then their not top class !! simple as that !! and out of all the "younger" generation of "great" dog's that i've watched only on d.v.d's i think the outstanding dog was ......................LUCKY "THE DARK DESTROYER" !! Field or fen, black land or brown land, soft or hard that dog caught hare's, and he caught hare's that some of the other recent great's would have struggled with !!! in my opinion and he was "caned" 3 or four times a week 4-5-6- run's a day !!! how many of the other's would have coped with that?? awesome dog !!!!! good post pal was watchin lucky the other day on dvd now that was some animal very clever had it all speed could stay on two and nice two watch one of the best i ever seen they way he goes up and down them gears that dog new its stuff Quote Link to post
BOLIO1 1,078 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Alas if lads that had permission on the hardest of going would have donated THEIR land to run the british champ do's like Tony and Jim did with South Kyme, then we wouldn't be having this debate. Many other men would have kept land like that to themselves and hunted f**k out of it while keeping it a secret. Full respect to the lads who opened up their permission and ended up having the land poached out from under them. Jim and Tony,two other Forley legends! Quote Link to post
bigliks 601 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Alas if lads that had permission on the hardest of going would have donated THEIR land to run the british champ do's like Tony and Jim did with South Kyme, then we wouldn't be having this debate. Many other men would have kept land like that to themselves and hunted f**k out of it while keeping it a secret. Full respect to the lads who opened up their permission and ended up having the land poached out from under them. Jim and Tony,two other Forley legends! yes full respect two jim and tony cos with out them they never would of been a forley cup Quote Link to post
carp777 191 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Alas if lads that had permission on the hardest of going would have donated THEIR land to run the british champ do's like Tony and Jim did with South Kyme, then we wouldn't be having this debate. Many other men would have kept land like that to themselves and hunted f**k out of it while keeping it a secret. Full respect to the lads who opened up their permission and ended up having the land poached out from under them. Jim and Tony,two other Forley legends! agreed mate but jim and tony had never seen rippingale fen until i took them their one day, next thing they'd got permission on there........................ Quote Link to post
bigliks 601 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Alas if lads that had permission on the hardest of going would have donated THEIR land to run the british champ do's like Tony and Jim did with South Kyme, then we wouldn't be having this debate. Many other men would have kept land like that to themselves and hunted f**k out of it while keeping it a secret. Full respect to the lads who opened up their permission and ended up having the land poached out from under them. Jim and Tony,two other Forley legends! agreed mate but jim and tony had never seen rippingale fen until i took them their one day, next thing they'd got permission on there........................ i been on there thought it was oggies pal Quote Link to post
carp777 191 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Alas if lads that had permission on the hardest of going would have donated THEIR land to run the british champ do's like Tony and Jim did with South Kyme, then we wouldn't be having this debate. Many other men would have kept land like that to themselves and hunted f**k out of it while keeping it a secret. Full respect to the lads who opened up their permission and ended up having the land poached out from under them. Jim and Tony,two other Forley legends! agreed mate but jim and tony had never seen rippingale fen until i took them their one day, next thing they'd got permission on there........................ i been on there thought it was oggies pal your probaly right mate !! just they did'nt mention anything about it being "permission" while we were pinching a run or two !!! it was only after this that the "grapevine" said the calendar club had got this land so i assumed j&t !!! a.t.b. Quote Link to post
BOLIO1 1,078 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Alas if lads that had permission on the hardest of going would have donated THEIR land to run the british champ do's like Tony and Jim did with South Kyme, then we wouldn't be having this debate. Many other men would have kept land like that to themselves and hunted f**k out of it while keeping it a secret. Full respect to the lads who opened up their permission and ended up having the land poached out from under them. Jim and Tony,two other Forley legends! agreed mate but jim and tony had never seen rippingale fen until i took them their one day, next thing they'd got permission on there........................ When I was on Rippengale it was by invite from Oggy and Gary L. Jimmy and Tony had the invite too, as did Ginger and P. N. but my old red dog won dog of the day with 3 out of 3 singles.... Quote Link to post
bigliks 601 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Alas if lads that had permission on the hardest of going would have donated THEIR land to run the british champ do's like Tony and Jim did with South Kyme, then we wouldn't be having this debate. Many other men would have kept land like that to themselves and hunted f**k out of it while keeping it a secret. Full respect to the lads who opened up their permission and ended up having the land poached out from under them. Jim and Tony,two other Forley legends! agreed mate but jim and tony had never seen rippingale fen until i took them their one day, next thing they'd got permission on there........................ When I was on Rippengale it was by invite from Oggy and Gary L. Jimmy and Tony had the invite too, as did Ginger and P. N. but my old red dog won dog of the day with 3 out of 3 singles.... that was good land that my dad me oggie c.m and f.h were on a day out there had a good day did not rate the hares tho but it was begin of march so that might have something do with it Quote Link to post
BOLIO1 1,078 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 It was early feb when we were on R, the hares were hard as iron, lol Quote Link to post
optimus 447 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) Alas if lads that had permission on the hardest of going would have donated THEIR land to run the british champ do's like Tony and Jim did with South Kyme, then we wouldn't be having this debate. Many other men would have kept land like that to themselves and hunted f**k out of it while keeping it a secret. Full respect to the lads who opened up their permission and ended up having the land poached out from under them. Jim and Tony,two other Forley legends! agreed mate but jim and tony had never seen rippingale fen until i took them their one day, next thing they'd got permission on there........................ RIPPENGALE FEN WAS OGGY & G LEE`S GROUND. THEY PUT IT UP FOR THE DOUBLE HANDED. FORLEY LADS PUT UP SOUTH KAIME FOR THE SINGLES. RIPPENGALE ENDED UP POACHED TO DEATH, IN FACT ON 1 OCCASSION THE LANDOWNER WAS HELD BY 2 HEAVIES TILL A MATCH WAS RAN. THESE 4 MEN PUT UP THEIR OWN PERMISSION & ALL IT DID WAS TO ADVERTISE LAND TO BE POACHED. THEY HAVE MY FULL REPECT Edited March 17, 2011 by optimus Quote Link to post
optimus 447 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Alas if lads that had permission on the hardest of going would have donated THEIR land to run the british champ do's like Tony and Jim did with South Kyme, then we wouldn't be having this debate. Many other men would have kept land like that to themselves and hunted f**k out of it while keeping it a secret. Full respect to the lads who opened up their permission and ended up having the land poached out from under them. Jim and Tony,two other Forley legends! agreed mate but jim and tony had never seen rippingale fen until i took them their one day, next thing they'd got permission on there........................ i been on there thought it was oggies pal your probaly right mate !! just they did'nt mention anything about it being "permission" while we were pinching a run or two !!! it was only after this that the "grapevine" said the calendar club had got this land so i assumed j&t !!! a.t.b. ONE OF THE STIPULATIONS OF JOINING THE CALENDAR WAS EACH MEMBER HAD TO CONTRIBUTE PERMISSION WHERE A CLUB EVENT COULD BE HELD. WEARING A COLLAR & TIE WHEN RUNNING AT A CLUB EVENT WAS ANOTHER TO GIVE COURSING A MORE RESPECTABLE IMAGE Quote Link to post
optimus 447 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) WEARING OF A COLLAR & TIE WAS ALSO REQUIRED AT FORLEY & A of LC EVENT`S ON SOUTH KAIME & RIPPENGALE FEN Edited March 17, 2011 by optimus Quote Link to post
optimus 447 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 APOLOGY`S FOR THE QUALITY Quote Link to post
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