Rabid 1,936 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Let me know which pond you chuck it in Rob Try the photon on it see if that's any better. If not a different day scope off you R10 maybe ? You know that's spot on and will tell you if it's the gun or scope. It can't be the reg as the spread in fpe is excellent mate Ha, I will smash it to bits on a wall first, wouldn't wish this trouble on my worst enemy. Hard to tell with the photon, it looks to be doing ok, pissing down now though. The r10 has the 870lrf on and is sweet so don't wanna take that off. The extreme spread on paper looks perfect, but so did the test sheets that came back with it, don't understand why it's not doing it now, I will try another day scope on it as it's the only other thing I can think of. Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Have you let anyone else shoot it & you watch ? Just out of interest the gun my not suit you, I know I couldn't shoot 1 free hand, are you shooting of a bipod or free hand ? Not yet, my mate is going to try it as soon as he is free, he shoots a pulsar and I rate his marksmanship, he can hit stuff, so see what he thinks as you could be right, it may not suit me and my hold may be altering and throwing things out. All the testing today was done bench rested, no free hand. Quote Link to post
Bunnyblatter 1,012 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Let me know which pond you chuck it in Rob Try the photon on it see if that's any better. If not a different day scope off you R10 maybe ? You know that's spot on and will tell you if it's the gun or scope. It can't be the reg as the spread in fpe is excellent mate Ha, I will smash it to bits on a wall first, wouldn't wish this trouble on my worst enemy. Hard to tell with the photon, it looks to be doing ok, pissing down now though. The r10 has the 870lrf on and is sweet so don't wanna take that off. The extreme spread on paper looks perfect, but so did the test sheets that came back with it, don't understand why it's not doing it now, I will try another day scope on it as it's the only other thing I can think of. Can you chrono it yourself to eliminate bullshit from them ? 2 Quote Link to post
vizlauk 1,568 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Have you let anyone else shoot it & you watch ? Just out of interest the gun my not suit you, I know I couldn't shoot 1 free hand, are you shooting of a bipod or free hand ? Not yet, my mate is going to try it as soon as he is free, he shoots a pulsar and I rate his marksmanship, he can hit stuff, so see what he thinks as you could be right, it may not suit me and my hold may be altering and throwing things out. All the testing today was done bench rested, no free hand. Bench rested ? Off a bipod or just rested on a bean bag etc, I can shoot them off a bipod only, the gun is just to light for me , I'm not saying it's you, but it is just something else to rule out. 1 Quote Link to post
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 It's not looking good. I saw a girl newbie put 9 shots in a row from a .22 Wildcat through an 8mm hole on a bell target at 30yrds at Black Cat. These are very capable rifles. Unless your scope is iffy or you've got parkinsons, it looks like the gun is a wrong 'un Sorry mate. Hope you get it sorted. 1 Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Let me know which pond you chuck it in Rob Try the photon on it see if that's any better. If not a different day scope off you R10 maybe ? You know that's spot on and will tell you if it's the gun or scope. It can't be the reg as the spread in fpe is excellent mate Ha, I will smash it to bits on a wall first, wouldn't wish this trouble on my worst enemy.Hard to tell with the photon, it looks to be doing ok, pissing down now though. The r10 has the 870lrf on and is sweet so don't wanna take that off. The extreme spread on paper looks perfect, but so did the test sheets that came back with it, don't understand why it's not doing it now, I will try another day scope on it as it's the only other thing I can think of. Can you chrono it yourself to eliminate bullshit from them ? No, I managed to damage my skan, double loaded and one hit the sensor, must get it fixed. Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Have you let anyone else shoot it & you watch ? Just out of interest the gun my not suit you, I know I couldn't shoot 1 free hand, are you shooting of a bipod or free hand ? Not yet, my mate is going to try it as soon as he is free, he shoots a pulsar and I rate his marksmanship, he can hit stuff, so see what he thinks as you could be right, it may not suit me and my hold may be altering and throwing things out. All the testing today was done bench rested, no free hand. Bench rested ? Off a bipod or just rested on a bean bag etc, I can shoot them off a bipod only, the gun is just to light for me , I'm not saying it's you, but it is just something else to rule out. Bench rested on a bag, I have only just started using bipods on air rifles in the last few months. I haven't ruled out it may well be me, I just think it to be unlikely Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 It's not looking good. I saw a girl newbie put 9 shots in a row from a .22 Wildcat through an 8mm hole on a bell target at 30yrds at Black Cat. These are very capable rifles. Unless your scope is iffy or you've got parkinsons, it looks like the gun is a wrong 'un Sorry mate. Hope you get it sorted. No Parkinson's, I am going to try a different scope tomorrow, but this is only about 8 months old air max 30, the rifle it was on it never missed a beat, not saying it may have gone wrong though. Quote Link to post
philpot 5,032 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I have visited ASI and spoken to Simon a couple of times, seem to be good people and to be honest they have been in the game for a very long time with shotguns and rifles enjoying a decent reputation so worth a phone call. Phil 1 Quote Link to post
RSVNelly 518 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 It's not looking good. I saw a girl newbie put 9 shots in a row from a .22 Wildcat through an 8mm hole on a bell target at 30yrds at Black Cat. These are very capable rifles. Unless your scope is iffy or you've got parkinsons, it looks like the gun is a wrong 'un Sorry mate. Hope you get it sorted. No Parkinson's, I am going to try a different scope tomorrow, but this is only about 8 months old air max 30, the rifle it was on it never missed a beat, not saying it may have gone wrong though. Good luck mate I feel for you, if it was grouping continually but not the best I would say it could be the shooter. But if they're spraying all over the shop I would be leaning toward the equipment? Keep me fingers crossed for you ?? 1 Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Let me know which pond you chuck it in Rob Try the photon on it see if that's any better. If not a different day scope off you R10 maybe ? You know that's spot on and will tell you if it's the gun or scope. It can't be the reg as the spread in fpe is excellent mate Ha, I will smash it to bits on a wall first, wouldn't wish this trouble on my worst enemy. Hard to tell with the photon, it looks to be doing ok, pissing down now though. The r10 has the 870lrf on and is sweet so don't wanna take that off. The extreme spread on paper looks perfect, but so did the test sheets that came back with it, don't understand why it's not doing it now, I will try another day scope on it as it's the only other thing I can think of. Can you chrono it yourself to eliminate bullshit from them ? Exactly what I was thinking,do you think perhaps they sent you a test card from another rifle??? I know a certian importer of Weihrauch rifles that had a .177 hw99s returned to them for being underpowered, the test card came back at 11.6 ftlbs, however when tested on two separate chronographs it was actually doing around 10ftlbs they had clearly shot another rifle. 1 Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted January 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Let me know which pond you chuck it in Rob Try the photon on it see if that's any better. If not a different day scope off you R10 maybe ? You know that's spot on and will tell you if it's the gun or scope. It can't be the reg as the spread in fpe is excellent mate Ha, I will smash it to bits on a wall first, wouldn't wish this trouble on my worst enemy.Hard to tell with the photon, it looks to be doing ok, pissing down now though. The r10 has the 870lrf on and is sweet so don't wanna take that off. The extreme spread on paper looks perfect, but so did the test sheets that came back with it, don't understand why it's not doing it now, I will try another day scope on it as it's the only other thing I can think of. Can you chrono it yourself to eliminate bullshit from them ? Exactly what I was thinking,do you think perhaps they sent you a test card from another rifle??? I know a certian importer of Weihrauch rifles that had a .177 hw99s returned to them for being underpowered, the test card came back at 11.6 ftlbs, however when tested on two separate chronographs it was actually doing around 10ftlbs they had clearly shot another rifle. I don't know mate, the thought had crossed my mind as its so wildly different to what I am getting with the same pellets ! No way to test it at present though. Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Clean the barrel, then sit with the pellets that performed the best and see if you can close the group, if you can't then chop it for something else. Quote Link to post
secretagentmole 1,701 Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) You can download a chrono app for a smart phone, may not be accurate in terms of within 3 ft per second, but it should give you an idea of spread! Edited January 31, 2017 by secretagentmole 1 Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted January 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 You can download a chrono app for a smart phone, may not be accurate in terms of within 3 ft per second, but it should give you an idea of spread! Thanks mole, but I have arranged to take it to a local range that also does gun smithing, they will chrono it for me so there can be no argument if it needs to go back, again ! 2 Quote Link to post
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