What Is It !!

[stealthy1 3,964]

With modern air rifles, 40 meters is well with in reach for most folk with good eyesight.

[Rez 4,961]

a lot of the lads on here shoot the same sitty tree from the same hide on a regular basis at up to 60yrd and the hunting posts show good results!!

cant remember the exact yardage but this was at least 60 it was in a post i did last year at some point!

its on an incline the conditions were perfect and it didn't let me have half a dozen pot shots at it... instant dispatch!

the shot was taken from under the bush

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i wouldn't of shot it if id didn't feel confident

 

im not having a go its about how some people choose to hunt

 

atb si

Thats a bangin shot.

[steg 609]

Look at some stats. The best shooters in the country often take 30 shots every Sunday morning. Their targets are anything from 8-45 yards. Their longest shots will be kill-zones from between 30mm & 40mm somewhat larger than the 1" kill that we look for when hunting. They average around 57 so that's three misses. They practice a lot, are very consistent with some of the best equipment out there. They are supremely confident and they have to take the shot. The one thing they do not have to think about is movement of the target and that for me is the key reason for keeping it to a maximum of 40 yards. No matter how good/confident you think you are you have absolutely no control over what the quarry is about to do.

 

 

These stats.. without sounding arsey..the 3 misses they average, is it always the 40+ yarder's?

[villaman 9,983]

Look at some stats. The best shooters in the country often take 30 shots every Sunday morning. Their targets are anything from 8-45 yards. Their longest shots will be kill-zones from between 30mm & 40mm somewhat larger than the 1" kill that we look for when hunting. They average around 57 so that's three misses. They practice a lot, are very consistent with some of the best equipment out there. They are supremely confident and they have to take the shot. The one thing they do not have to think about is movement of the target and that for me is the key reason for keeping it to a maximum of 40 yards. No matter how good/confident you think you are you have absolutely no control over what the quarry is about to do.

And that can happen at less than 40 yards as well

[si brown 8,486]

ill take a 45yrd shot over a 8yrd shot, going from hold under to holdover at close ranges is a nightmare... at least its plain sailing and plus mil's after the 30's

[bigmac 97kt 13,800]

Just took a rabbit out last night at 47yrds put a pellet in the back of its head

 

instant sleep ,

 

atvbjimmy :thumbs:

[David.evans 5,323]

Be carful Mac , I don't think your allowed to go above 40 yards , it only a air rifle

 

Arr sorry mate I forgot that you do know your set up , , and it was a still nite !,

And your confidence was sky high

It was a full moon

You been watching porn all day , that set your sites right

 

Ect , ect ,

 

You nought boy , lol

[pianoman 3,587]

I think the Airgun hunting press has, over the last twenty odd years, created a sort of "Politically Correct" range distance where 35 yards is the absolute maximum a "responsible" air rifle hunter must not shoot beyond.

 

One current writer likes to insist he never shoots at a rabbit at more than 20 yards. (yeah rght!).

 

In the interests of promoting a responsible attitude to its readerships the press has created the 35-yard maximum as a range at which, the poorest average standard shooter, taking into account that he will more likely have an inferior rifle and scope and a pellet of dubious suitability for the said piss-poor rifle should consider as an outer limit enabling reasonable chances of a humanely effective hunting shot.

 

Any talk of being able to hit a rabbit clean out at this and greater ranges is frowned upon as it might encourage the less-capable shooter and his piss-pot Hatstand Gamo junker to attempt shots that will result in wounding and serious injuries to the animal in the sights. Having met up with other lads on my permissions and the utter poor state of their kit and hit-and-miss standard of shooting, it's a good thing really. all considered.

Unfortunately, it seems, that a well-practiced marksman and his top quality kit that are capable of lethal accuracy at 35 yards and over are lumped into the catagory of the irresponsible shooter.

 

For reasons stated above..

 

Just my thoughts on the matter. Perhaps it is best to quietly shoot by discretion and hit out to where you are comfortable.

 

As for the rest. Get your lazy arses in gear, buy decent kit and practice, practice practice till you can hit a penny at 50 yards.

 

Pianoman

[Rabid 1,936]

I think the Airgun hunting press has, over the last twenty odd years, created a sort of "Politically Correct" range distance where 35 yards is the absolute maximum a "responsible" air rifle hunter must not shoot beyond.

 

One current writer likes to insist he never shoots at a rabbit at more than 20 yards. (yeah rght!).

 

In the interests of promoting a responsible attitude to its readerships the press has created the 35-yard maximum as a range at which, the poorest average standard shooter, taking into account that he will more likely have an inferior rifle and scope and a pellet of dubious suitability for the said piss-poor rifle should consider as an outer limit enabling reasonable chances of a humanely effective hunting shot.

 

Any talk of being able to hit a rabbit clean out at this and greater ranges is frowned upon as it might encourage the less-capable shooter and his piss-pot Hatstand Gamo junker to attempt shots that will result in wounding and serious injuries to the animal in the sights. Having met up with other lads on my permissions and the utter poor state of their kit and hit-and-miss standard of shooting, it's a good thing really. all considered.

Unfortunately, it seems, that a well-practiced marksman and his top quality kit that are capable of lethal accuracy at 35 yards and over are lumped into the catagory of the irresponsible shooter.

 

For reasons stated above..

 

Just my thoughts on the matter. Perhaps it is best to quietly shoot by discretion and hit out to where you are comfortable.

 

As for the rest. Get your lazy arses in gear, buy decent kit and practice, practice practice till you can hit a penny at 50 yards.

 

Pianoman

I think that sums it up quite well

[philpot 5,005]

Well put Simon.

 

Phil

[mark williams 7,558]

If you know your set up, your mill dots, are confident and " competent" with a quality air rifle, shooting further than 40 yds should not prove a problem.

Personally I rarely shoot above 35 yds as I am set up and waiting 99% of the time in natural hides.

Saying that, last year I was pulling off regular head shots on 50 yd rabbits - easily,- on still, calm days off shooting sticks because I " had to" .

 

 

Here`s the practice at 38 yds zero, 45 yds was half md h/o, 50 yds was precisely 1 md h/over.

 

Not hard to do with good, regular practice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

atb Mark.

 

 

 

 

 

[Pink or stink 162]

 

Look at some stats. The best shooters in the country often take 30 shots every Sunday morning. Their targets are anything from 8-45 yards. Their longest shots will be kill-zones from between 30mm & 40mm somewhat larger than the 1" kill that we look for when hunting. They average around 57 so that's three misses. They practice a lot, are very consistent with some of the best equipment out there. They are supremely confident and they have to take the shot. The one thing they do not have to think about is movement of the target and that for me is the key reason for keeping it to a maximum of 40 yards. No matter how good/confident you think you are you have absolutely no control over what the quarry is about to do.

 

These stats.. without sounding arsey..the 3 misses they average, is it always the 40+ yarder's?

 

 

I would say that it's the 15mm kill at up to 25 yards that catches most of them out.

[ftm 3,357]

shoot to your capabilities -simple as that ---with safety paramount

[David.evans 5,323]

I have to say reading this thread

That there are sensible shooters on the THL

Atb

[kenj 131]

I've probably missed more rabbits, that popped out 5 to 10 yards in front of me than those at 40 yards and above. On one farm, a meadow was 50 yards from fence to fence, with rabbits on the hedge line and open ground in between. My FAC Career 707 carbine is rated at 28 ftlb and using 21 gn Bisley magnums, I set up targets at 50 yards and with the rifle rested on my bag was consistantly well within the 30mm dia bull. I had been ignoring these rabbits, but they were "annoying" the farmer, so I set up and went for the shots. Most were first head shot kills with hardly a kick, while others flipped the rabbits, with a second safety shot from range. Over a week, I'd cleared them. However I was not happy shooting with an air rifle that far and he allowed me to use my 22lr after that.