PeskyWabbits 464 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Right... What is it or should it be to make someone stand out, be a role model, a good example of a human being. For some reason actors/celebrities are pushed to the front. Why? Why pay any attention to some actor - Ewan McGregor recently spouting off recently... Why should anyone pay attention to actors. They live in a world of pretence. The words in films etc, aren't even theirs. When they are on some news programme giving their political opinion, what world experience do they have, or are they just in character again, or doing something to promote yet another piece of fiction for a wage that a whole British family won't see in a lifetime. Then there are the other ones. Architects, yes nice pictures but are they the ones that turn the drawings into buildings. I think this recognising achievement is a bit skewif and until we see the merits of those who actually deserve the praise, who are probably a lot closer to you and me, we will all be chasing the unattainable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I would nominate the man shown on my avatar, and a hero of mine,Tom Crean. He travelled to Antarctica three times, including Scott's ill-fated final expedition. He accompanied Captain Scott, right up to the last leg, when he and others were sent back, and Scott and a small party continued on. Here is a brief recount of what happened..... "....They trudged and hauled across 230 miles of the Polar Plateau, then 120 miles down the Beardmore Glacier encountering numerous dangers, and near death experiences, before the final 400 miles, across the Barrier, stood between them and the sanctuary of one the huts. By late January, Evans was displaying signs of scurvy, and by mid February he was unable to walk. At this point he ordered Crean and Lashly to leave him behind, and save themselves. This was an order both men refused to obey, and instead they placed the stricken Evans on the sledge and heroically hauled onwards. With immense effort and resolve, with little food, and with Evans on the verge of death, they got to within 35 miles of Hut Point, but that was actually a four or five day march away, at their current pace, and their situation was bleak, at best. Fearing Evans would die unless something drastic was done, Tom Crean decided to strike for Hut Point himself, leaving Lashly to care for Evans in a hastily erected tent. Crean took no sleeping bag with him as he did not intend stopping until he had reached help, and the only sustenance he carried were a couple of biscuits and some chocolate. Yet, amazingly after 18 hours Crean arrived at Hut Point, just ahead of a ferocious blizzard, and raised the alarm. It was February 19th and Tom Crean had just completed an act which has been widely hailed as the single most, greatest act of bravery, in the history of exploration. When the blizzard had passed a rescue team set off to find Evans and Lashly, and politely refused Crean’s plea to join them." They don't make them like him any more - what a man ! 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,004 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I would nominate the man shown on my avatar, and a hero of mine,Tom Crean. He travelled to Antarctica three times, including Scott's ill-fated final expedition. He accompanied Captain Scott, right up to the last leg, when he and others were sent back, and Scott and a small party continued on. Here is a brief recount of what happened..... "....They trudged and hauled across 230 miles of the Polar Plateau, then 120 miles down the Beardmore Glacier encountering numerous dangers, and near death experiences, before the final 400 miles, across the Barrier, stood between them and the sanctuary of one the huts. By late January, Evans was displaying signs of scurvy, and by mid February he was unable to walk. At this point he ordered Crean and Lashly to leave him behind, and save themselves. This was an order both men refused to obey, and instead they placed the stricken Evans on the sledge and heroically hauled onwards. With immense effort and resolve, with little food, and with Evans on the verge of death, they got to within 35 miles of Hut Point, but that was actually a four or five day march away, at their current pace, and their situation was bleak, at best. Fearing Evans would die unless something drastic was done, Tom Crean decided to strike for Hut Point himself, leaving Lashly to care for Evans in a hastily erected tent. Crean took no sleeping bag with him as he did not intend stopping until he had reached help, and the only sustenance he carried were a couple of biscuits and some chocolate. Yet, amazingly after 18 hours Crean arrived at Hut Point, just ahead of a ferocious blizzard, and raised the alarm. It was February 19th and Tom Crean had just completed an act which has been widely hailed as the single most, greatest act of bravery, in the history of exploration. When the blizzard had passed a rescue team set off to find Evans and Lashly, and politely refused Crean’s plea to join them." They don't make them like him any more - what a man ! Brill that , great little read , your right not many men like him to day are those husky pups he holding in that pic in your avatar .? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I would nominate the man shown on my avatar, and a hero of mine,Tom Crean. He travelled to Antarctica three times, including Scott's ill-fated final expedition. He accompanied Captain Scott, right up to the last leg, when he and others were sent back, and Scott and a small party continued on. Here is a brief recount of what happened..... "....They trudged and hauled across 230 miles of the Polar Plateau, then 120 miles down the Beardmore Glacier encountering numerous dangers, and near death experiences, before the final 400 miles, across the Barrier, stood between them and the sanctuary of one the huts. By late January, Evans was displaying signs of scurvy, and by mid February he was unable to walk. At this point he ordered Crean and Lashly to leave him behind, and save themselves. This was an order both men refused to obey, and instead they placed the stricken Evans on the sledge and heroically hauled onwards. With immense effort and resolve, with little food, and with Evans on the verge of death, they got to within 35 miles of Hut Point, but that was actually a four or five day march away, at their current pace, and their situation was bleak, at best. Fearing Evans would die unless something drastic was done, Tom Crean decided to strike for Hut Point himself, leaving Lashly to care for Evans in a hastily erected tent. Crean took no sleeping bag with him as he did not intend stopping until he had reached help, and the only sustenance he carried were a couple of biscuits and some chocolate. Yet, amazingly after 18 hours Crean arrived at Hut Point, just ahead of a ferocious blizzard, and raised the alarm. It was February 19th and Tom Crean had just completed an act which has been widely hailed as the single most, greatest act of bravery, in the history of exploration. When the blizzard had passed a rescue team set off to find Evans and Lashly, and politely refused Crean’s plea to join them." They don't make them like him any more - what a man ! Brill that , great little read , your right not many men like him to day are those husky pups he holding in that pic in your avatar .? Yes mate. Although Scott didn't use dogs on his journey - he said it was "ungentlemanly", and preferred horses ! Three good books and web pages about Cream. That story is just the best known - he survived many remarkable adventures ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dazbrowne 13 372 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Great read that what a fella Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Right... What is it or should it be to make someone stand out, be a role model, a good example of a human being. For some reason actors/celebrities are pushed to the front. Why? Why pay any attention to some actor - Ewan McGregor recently spouting off recently... Why should anyone pay attention to actors. They live in a world of pretence. The words in films etc, aren't even theirs. When they are on some news programme giving their political opinion, what world experience do they have, or are they just in character again, or doing something to promote yet another piece of fiction for a wage that a whole British family won't see in a lifetime. Then there are the other ones. Architects, yes nice pictures but are they the ones that turn the drawings into buildings. I think this recognising achievement is a bit skewif and until we see the merits of those who actually deserve the praise, who are probably a lot closer to you and me, we will all be chasing the unattainable. The media is to blame really, explorers and great builders used to be household names, now people are famous for having improbably huge arses like that Kardashian woman. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billybigfish 57 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 2 greats of modern society is Nigel farrage and Donald trump. Stopping the leftards in they're devious tracks 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Right... What is it or should it be to make someone stand out, be a role model, a good example of a human being. For some reason actors/celebrities are pushed to the front. Why? Why pay any attention to some actor - Ewan McGregor recently spouting off recently... Why should anyone pay attention to actors. They live in a world of pretence. The words in films etc, aren't even theirs. When they are on some news programme giving their political opinion, what world experience do they have, or are they just in character again, or doing something to promote yet another piece of fiction for a wage that a whole British family won't see in a lifetime. Then there are the other ones. Architects, yes nice pictures but are they the ones that turn the drawings into buildings. I think this recognising achievement is a bit skewif and until we see the merits of those who actually deserve the praise, who are probably a lot closer to you and me, we will all be chasing the unattainable. The media is to blame really, explorers and great builders used to be household names, now people are famous for having improbably huge arses like that Kardashian woman. I think that's true, mate. When we have awards for "Best TV presenter" and a myriad of 'celebrities' whose only claim to fame is their own fame, achieved via a series of so-called reality programmes, we are indeed in a sorry state ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jiggy 3,209 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I would nominate the man shown on my avatar, and a hero of mine,Tom Crean. He travelled to Antarctica three times, including Scott's ill-fated final expedition. He accompanied Captain Scott, right up to the last leg, when he and others were sent back, and Scott and a small party continued on. Here is a brief recount of what happened..... "....They trudged and hauled across 230 miles of the Polar Plateau, then 120 miles down the Beardmore Glacier encountering numerous dangers, and near death experiences, before the final 400 miles, across the Barrier, stood between them and the sanctuary of one the huts. By late January, Evans was displaying signs of scurvy, and by mid February he was unable to walk. At this point he ordered Crean and Lashly to leave him behind, and save themselves. This was an order both men refused to obey, and instead they placed the stricken Evans on the sledge and heroically hauled onwards. With immense effort and resolve, with little food, and with Evans on the verge of death, they got to within 35 miles of Hut Point, but that was actually a four or five day march away, at their current pace, and their situation was bleak, at best. Fearing Evans would die unless something drastic was done, Tom Crean decided to strike for Hut Point himself, leaving Lashly to care for Evans in a hastily erected tent. Crean took no sleeping bag with him as he did not intend stopping until he had reached help, and the only sustenance he carried were a couple of biscuits and some chocolate. Yet, amazingly after 18 hours Crean arrived at Hut Point, just ahead of a ferocious blizzard, and raised the alarm. It was February 19th and Tom Crean had just completed an act which has been widely hailed as the single most, greatest act of bravery, in the history of exploration. When the blizzard had passed a rescue team set off to find Evans and Lashly, and politely refused Creans plea to join them." They don't make them like him any more - what a man ! didnt Tom crean carry a man on his back that collapsed for 11 odd miles through snow and blizzards on one of the expeditions. I thought I read that somewhere maybe I have it wrong. One hardy skin of a man either ways was the book written about him called the unsung hero , I read extracts of it a very good read. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,404 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Brendan Ingle the Sheffeild boxing trainer comes to mind as everyday folk go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I would nominate the man shown on my avatar, and a hero of mine,Tom Crean. He travelled to Antarctica three times, including Scott's ill-fated final expedition. He accompanied Captain Scott, right up to the last leg, when he and others were sent back, and Scott and a small party continued on. Here is a brief recount of what happened..... "....They trudged and hauled across 230 miles of the Polar Plateau, then 120 miles down the Beardmore Glacier encountering numerous dangers, and near death experiences, before the final 400 miles, across the Barrier, stood between them and the sanctuary of one the huts. By late January, Evans was displaying signs of scurvy, and by mid February he was unable to walk. At this point he ordered Crean and Lashly to leave him behind, and save themselves. This was an order both men refused to obey, and instead they placed the stricken Evans on the sledge and heroically hauled onwards. With immense effort and resolve, with little food, and with Evans on the verge of death, they got to within 35 miles of Hut Point, but that was actually a four or five day march away, at their current pace, and their situation was bleak, at best. Fearing Evans would die unless something drastic was done, Tom Crean decided to strike for Hut Point himself, leaving Lashly to care for Evans in a hastily erected tent. Crean took no sleeping bag with him as he did not intend stopping until he had reached help, and the only sustenance he carried were a couple of biscuits and some chocolate. Yet, amazingly after 18 hours Crean arrived at Hut Point, just ahead of a ferocious blizzard, and raised the alarm. It was February 19th and Tom Crean had just completed an act which has been widely hailed as the single most, greatest act of bravery, in the history of exploration. When the blizzard had passed a rescue team set off to find Evans and Lashly, and politely refused Creans plea to join them." They don't make them like him any more - what a man ! didnt Tom crean carry a man on his back that collapsed for 11 odd miles through snow and blizzards on one of the expeditions. I thought I read that somewhere maybe I have it wrong. One hardy skin of a man either ways was the book written about him called the unsung hero , I read extracts of it a very good read. It's an excellent book, and one I'd recommend - he was a truly remarkable man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Oskar Schindler is up there I'd say..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I like to watch "The Chase", and I've GENUINELY heard these answers..... "The nurse known as the Lady of the Lamp was Florence who ?" "Er...Smith ?" "Who was the winning commander at the Battle of Waterloo ?" "Hitler ?" "What nationality was Captain Cook, the discoverer of Australia ?" "American" And probably most shamefully..... Who was British prime minister during World War 2 ?" "Pass....." If they'd been asked who won X Factor in 2012, they would probably have romped home ! There is no hope for us....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepitcovert 842 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 Root cause of this type of hero worship, a lot of the feeble minded members of the public who make these idiots into so called celebs, by showering praise on them. Britain has produced many remarkable people who have actually achieved something and left a great legacy. Isambard kingdom brunel for one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 I like to watch "The Chase", and I've GENUINELY heard these answers..... "The nurse known as the Lady of the Lamp was Florence who ?" "Er...Smith ?" "Who was the winning commander at the Battle of Waterloo ?" "Hitler ?" "What nationality was Captain Cook, the discoverer of Australia ?" "American" And probably most shamefully..... Who was British prime minister during World War 2 ?" "Pass....." If they'd been asked who won X Factor in 2012, they would probably have romped home ! There is no hope for us....... "Education...education...education" Now....who said that? lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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