MOLE265 792 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Did I read on the forum that someone got a deeper cap to hold 3 batteries to extended the range of old 15' Deben terrier locator collar ? Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Probably, if you're using them for a ferret then maybe it's handy (if not to cumbersome on a small ferret) but against todays locators not worth the effort. I never had the larger cap but seen them used. Ahead of their time at the time. The one thing I miss about the ol' knocker box was how instant they were at the bottom of a dig to a mute terrier. You turned the dial and instantly you knew. Being so close to a terrier at the end is vital and not when I want to be waiting for a box to warm up. But, then again, I'm ol' fashioned. 6 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Neil I've lost count of the amount of 'old timers' (they'll love that) who have said that about the Debens. I know what you mean about looking for that final mark, it's a ballache sometimes. 1 Quote Link to post
Waz 4,276 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Remeber the add for the bigger caps, chap round Luton way I believe. 1 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Another thing I meant to add in my post is the waterproof fact. It's a massive bonus. I often seen the old Deben collar stop working when the terrier was running through wet grass, even though the collar might be taped up. 1 Quote Link to post
ziggy 619 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 My old man had the 3 batt caps they would pick up nearly 26 ft handy they were... Still got them somewhere 1 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Probably, if you're using them for a ferret then maybe it's handy (if not to cumbersome on a small ferret) but against todays locators not worth the effort. I never had the larger cap but seen them used. Ahead of their time at the time. The one thing I miss about the ol' knocker box was how instant they were at the bottom of a dig to a mute terrier. You turned the dial and instantly you knew. Being so close to a terrier at the end is vital and not when I want to be waiting for a box to warm up. But, then again, I'm ol' fashioned. I somtimes leave the peips on at side of the dig or at least on send Thats one thing i hated with the red brick it takes a while to calibrate Yes it's a good habit to get into but when very near the end of a dig I've a habit of turning it off and throwing it in my pocket. It's easy to stand on one at the side of a dig, especially if lads get excited ,as some do, so into my pocket it goes, off too as I've often gone home with it on send and later on checking gear find it has been using the battery un-necessarily for hours. But with the old grey box (I don't call them knockers. Knockers are a more beautiful thing) if you were in the end and needed to pin point a terrier it was instant. Funny, but I remember a couple of lads when the new systems came out would have an old Deben collar and a new B+F collar on the terrier such was the reliance they had in the old one. Two collars on one terrier !!!! One is dangerous enough, let alone two. Pity we couldn't put something like a micro-chip in a terrier and locate it using that. Maybe 22nd century terriermen will have them ,LOL. 4 Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,863 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Probably, if you're using them for a ferret then maybe it's handy (if not to cumbersome on a small ferret) but against todays locators not worth the effort. I never had the larger cap but seen them used. Ahead of their time at the time. The one thing I miss about the ol' knocker box was how instant they were at the bottom of a dig to a mute terrier. You turned the dial and instantly you knew. Being so close to a terrier at the end is vital and not when I want to be waiting for a box to warm up. But, then again, I'm ol' fashioned. I somtimes leave the peips on at side of the dig or at least on send Thats one thing i hated with the red brick it takes a while to calibrate Yes it's a good habit to get into but when very near the end of a dig I've a habit of turning it off and throwing it in my pocket. It's easy to stand on one at the side of a dig, especially if lads get excited ,as some do, so into my pocket it goes, off too as I've often gone home with it on send and later on checking gear find it has been using the battery un-necessarily for hours. But with the old grey box (I don't call them knockers. Knockers are a more beautiful thing) if you were in the end and needed to pin point a terrier it was instant. Funny, but I remember a couple of lads when the new systems came out would have an old Deben collar and a new B+F collar on the terrier such was the reliance they had in the old one. Two collars on one terrier !!!! One is dangerous enough, let alone two. Pity we couldn't put something like a micro-chip in a terrier and locate it using that. Maybe 22nd century terriermen will have them ,LOL. If a terrier is micro chipped, would it be possible to pick up that chip by using a chip reader like the vets have but with a longer range? Is it the chip or the receiver that determines recognition? Cheers, D. Quote Link to post
steve t 1,095 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 we got some caps made that took four batterys, done thirty foot but still shit compared to todays technology 1 Quote Link to post
lukey 1,621 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Probably, if you're using them for a ferret then maybe it's handy (if not to cumbersome on a small ferret) but against todays locators not worth the effort. I never had the larger cap but seen them used. Ahead of their time at the time. The one thing I miss about the ol' knocker box was how instant they were at the bottom of a dig to a mute terrier. You turned the dial and instantly you knew. Being so close to a terrier at the end is vital and not when I want to be waiting for a box to warm up. But, then again, I'm ol' fashioned. I somtimes leave the peips on at side of the dig or at least on sendThats one thing i hated with the red brick it takes a while to calibrate Yes it's a good habit to get into but when very near the end of a dig I've a habit of turning it off and throwing it in my pocket. It's easy to stand on one at the side of a dig, especially if lads get excited ,as some do, so into my pocket it goes, off too as I've often gone home with it on send and later on checking gear find it has been using the battery un-necessarily for hours.But with the old grey box (I don't call them knockers. Knockers are a more beautiful thing) if you were in the end and needed to pin point a terrier it was instant. Funny, but I remember a couple of lads when the new systems came out would have an old Deben collar and a new B+F collar on the terrier such was the reliance they had in the old one. Two collars on one terrier !!!! One is dangerous enough, let alone two. Pity we couldn't put something like a micro-chip in a terrier and locate it using that. Maybe 22nd century terriermen will have them ,LOL. Best leaving your pipes box on send when out Neil, if you lose it in cover of that then you can pick it up with another box seen it happen before 3 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Thanks Lukey, I didn't know that. Good tip. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to post
MOLE265 792 Posted January 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 I'm looking to buy one or two of the longer caps that's been mentioned that will take more than the standard two batteries can anyone help. Thanks. Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Just out of interest Mole, do you still use the old debens or just collect them ? Anyone remember the original finders that took two caps ? If you keep asking you should get sorted. At the end of the day most terriermen can get their hands on a knocker or two. Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Sold a brand new box still sealed and collar about two year ago. If deben or b+f could make an improved waterproof, long range knocker id buy one. Quote Link to post
MOLE265 792 Posted January 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 I'm looking to buy one or two of the longer caps that's been mentioned that will take more than the standard two batteries can anyone help. Thanks. Tv shops used to have them they use them or similar ones for something to do with aerial Thanks woods I'll check it out mate. 1 Quote Link to post
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