keepitcovert 842 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Depends where you hunt round my neck of the woods its not that essential, seen a few come to grief on non essential jumps , one went over a quarry edge, jumping high grass with a 50 ft drop. Yeah jumping can be a use full asset but i would rather have a dog that used its head rather than jumping blind and coming to grief.Seen dogs that jumped 5 barred gates that were partly opened rather than walk through so i suppose it depends on the dog. Quote Link to post
DogMan85 722 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 My mates old Bull cross one jumped off an old railway bridge on to a dirt track, the dog was dense just like it's owner. Luckily it walked away unscathed. Quote Link to post
Sirblessed 2,511 Posted January 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 I need my dog to jump or else we wouldn't catch anything.a would rather teach my dog to jump and have it see something and not knowing and hurting it's self each to there own I hear this all the time, and seen it not that often. How many actual catches does a dog make after the prey makes it through a fence? Less than most! (I’m not talking about red ones). The biggest problem we have here is 99% of the fences are 2-3 strand barb on top, any dog can jump a fence, It’s when they are tired or carrying prey back it can become risky. I don’t lift my dogs over fences, and they jump them all the time, I just discourage them from jumping when chasing. Each to their own I wish you A.T.B PS Zip is looking better today she will be fine. Quote Link to post
Sirblessed 2,511 Posted January 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Sounds like wee Zip had a lucky escape there pal could have been really nasty. Hope she bounces back quick for you Cheers mate. She wil be right in a few day's, very lucky pup. Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,328 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 A lurcher is the ultimate canine athlete yeah athlete so one that can't jump is as much use as a glass eye..If it don't or won't jump it would be culled were it in my kennels even if it could do 6/6 on the fens..Oh that's right a dog doesn't need to jump to run on the fens does it & after all that's the ultimate test of a dog isn't it? What a load of shite & for those who think it is take your blindfolds off & go travel the land oh but be prepared to lift your one trick pony over every obstacle you confront..Get yourselves to the gym & start pumping the iron coz you will need too lol 10 Quote Link to post
stone rose 353 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 all our fen dogs fuji are trained to jump thats because theres plenty obsticals out there on the flat land and like you say fxxx lifftin em over fences all mine over the years have run field and fen so jumpin is a must just look at the joe foxy match years ago the bitch had to jump to kill her hare bang in the middle of the black land 4 Quote Link to post
Guest edrd Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) Van Halen ? Edited January 21, 2017 by edrd Quote Link to post
Kieran Ritchie 340 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 I need my dog to jump or else we wouldn't catch anything.a would rather teach my dog to jump and have it see something and not knowing and hurting it's self each to there own I hear this all the time, and seen it not that often. How many actual catches does a dog make after the prey makes it through a fence? Less than most! (Im not talking about red ones).The biggest problem we have here is 99% of the fences are 2-3 strand barb on top, any dog can jump a fence, Its when they are tired or carrying prey back it can become risky. I dont lift my dogs over fences, and they jump them all the time, I just discourage them from jumping when chasing. Each to their own I wish you A.T.B PS Zip is looking better today she will be fine. when there tried and carrying prey a simple command saying stop or under comes in useful.caych must the stuff caught is over aleast 2 fences so I need him to jump it's the same here. Quote Link to post
blacky13 285 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 A Dogs got to jump 100% nothing worse then keep helping the dog over fences Quote Link to post
DogMan85 722 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 I recall reading in a Plummer book that a dog he knew used to jump goalposts for fun, can't say I've seen that myself tbh.... Quote Link to post
terryd 8,681 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 I need my dog to jump or else we wouldn't catch anything.a would rather teach my dog to jump and have it see something and not knowing and hurting it's self each to there own I hear this all the time, and seen it not that often. How many actual catches does a dog make after the prey makes it through a fence? Less than most! (I’m not talking about red ones). The biggest problem we have here is 99% of the fences are 2-3 strand barb on top, any dog can jump a fence, It’s when they are tired or carrying prey back it can become risky. I don’t lift my dogs over fences, and they jump them all the time, I just discourage them from jumping when chasing. Each to their own I wish you A.T.B PS Zip is looking better today she will be fine. I agree Doug around here it would be rare for the dog to jump a fence and make a catch. But if my dog is behind some thing he will clear things like a bloody kangaroo. I would rather he didnt but no chance of stopping him. If we come to a fence in the normal walk i will lob him over. No biggy and my dog my choice. Each to there own and if I wanted to teach him to hop over every thing he would Quote Link to post
lurcher power 86 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Go to jump for me where I go 1 Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,063 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) If there's barbed wire around a dog's going to get hurt sooner or later anyway. I teach all mine to jump but one of the worst rips I've had was on a bitch who broke two strands of rusty barbed wire when close behind a hare ( back in the 80's). She broke the top one with her face and the botton one with her shoulders and chest and caught the hare. Took a bit of stitching . Edited January 21, 2017 by Maximus Ferret Quote Link to post
tb25 4,627 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 I have no need for a dog to jump but the both do. Quote Link to post
Limpo 23 Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 I always taught my dogs to jump, I'd also teach them to jump a five bar gate and not touch the top bar. Lay something loose on the top bar like your jumper and stand by the side of the gate so you can tip the back legs over if needed, I had a bitch badly banged up for months because she'd insist on just setting her back feet on the top bar on the way over, a little slip and bang on the cruciates, teach them to jump and jump high! Quote Link to post
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