Troutslayer 141 Posted January 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Not too regular no i try too leave the earths as much as possible but whats a good lengh of time? Ive had dogs in earths in the past which have bolted and dug the very same earths two days later Quote Link to post
leo1 134 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 How longs a piece of string ? The longer there left the better I'd think Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 I always have a terrier loose, I said A terrier, the rest would still be on the couples and it's a great way of finding new earths but it's rare for one terrier to put enough pressure on a fox to put him in. When a terrier does hit a line you'll usually see the fox trotting along in front of you and unless I've the lurcher with me he'll usually stay safe and stay on top. Foxes found to ground were usually there in the first place. Anyone using several terriers to put foxes to ground has not only got bad terriers but is also IMO cruel. 1 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 15/01/2017 at 19:44, neil cooney said: I always have a terrier loose, I said A terrier, the rest would still be on the couples and it's a great way of finding new earths but it's rare for one terrier to put enough pressure on a fox to put him in. When a terrier does hit a line you'll usually see the fox trotting along in front of you and unless I've the lurcher with me he'll usually stay safe and stay on top. Foxes found to ground were usually there in the first place. Anyone using several terriers to put foxes to ground has not only got bad terriers but is also IMO cruel. I must own different terriers Neil because its common for mine to push a fox below,on their own or accompanied,any fox that as the audacity to underestimate my mongrels often never reaches the dark embrace of sanctuary,even if it does it regrets it.Yours don,t mine do and ill guarantee i don,t hold the monopoly on such jukels. 1 Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 15/01/2017 at 19:29, Troutslayer said: Not too regular no i try too leave the earths as much as possible but whats a good lengh of time? Ive had dogs in earths in the past which have bolted and dug the very same earths two days laterI give a good 3 week before I go back on the same permo. Even if i let a dog sniff an entrance ill only check it again a few weeks later. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 15/01/2017 at 20:02, rob284 said: On 15/01/2017 at 19:29, Troutslayer said: Not too regular no i try too leave the earths as much as possible but whats a good lengh of time? Ive had dogs in earths in the past which have bolted and dug the very same earths two days laterI give a good 3 week before I go back on the same permo. Even if i let a dog sniff an entrance ill only check it again a few weeks later. The facts are around this area any known holding spot will often be visited by several folk in the same weekend.Another fact is it will be empty today and occupied tomorrow. Quote Link to post
MOLE265 792 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 15/01/2017 at 16:22, Plucky1 said: What dogs are you using ?? nice to see a few pics of your terriers,WM Plummer terriers!!!!! Quote Link to post
MOLE265 792 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 15/01/2017 at 17:39, Daniel cain said: We dug 2 today-2 youngsters had their first dig-couldnt fault them.think all the rain we had helped.atb dc Think the rain helped yae big time dc that chalk looks a c**t if it was bone dry. Lol 1 Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 15/01/2017 at 20:05, morton said: On 15/01/2017 at 20:02, rob284 said: On 15/01/2017 at 19:29, Troutslayer said: Not too regular no i try too leave the earths as much as possible but whats a good lengh of time? Ive had dogs in earths in the past which have bolted and dug the very same earths two days laterI give a good 3 week before I go back on the same permo. Even if i let a dog sniff an entrance ill only check it again a few weeks later. The facts are around this area any known holding spot will often be visited by several folk in the same weekend.Another fact is it will be empty today and occupied tomorrow.that's the same local to me, there's paths leading to the earths ?. That's why i avoid the local haunts. Quote Link to post
MOLE265 792 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 15/01/2017 at 18:43, foxdropper said: .......And sleep better knowing they never doubled up . Your a naughty man foxdropper pmsl. Quote Link to post
Troutslayer 141 Posted January 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 No mate defo no paths leading too them well unless a railway track counts Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 15/01/2017 at 20:05, morton said: On 15/01/2017 at 20:02, rob284 said: On 15/01/2017 at 19:29, Troutslayer said: Not too regular no i try too leave the earths as much as possible but whats a good lengh of time? Ive had dogs in earths in the past which have bolted and dug the very same earths two days laterI give a good 3 week before I go back on the same permo. Even if i let a dog sniff an entrance ill only check it again a few weeks later. The facts are around this area any known holding spot will often be visited by several folk in the same weekend.Another fact is it will be empty today and occupied tomorrow. On 15/01/2017 at 20:05, morton said: On 15/01/2017 at 20:02, rob284 said: On 15/01/2017 at 19:29, Troutslayer said: Not too regular no i try too leave the earths as much as possible but whats a good lengh of time? Ive had dogs in earths in the past which have bolted and dug the very same earths two days laterI give a good 3 week before I go back on the same permo. Even if i let a dog sniff an entrance ill only check it again a few weeks later. The facts are around this area any known holding spot will often be visited by several folk in the same weekend.Another fact is it will be empty today and occupied tomorrow. Compare this post to your post to me Morton. In my area foxes usually see a terrier once ,could it be that in your area they encounter and evade them regularly by going to ground ? You're trying to tell me that either one or all of your Bedlingtons are fast enough to put foxes in. Like I said, I'd have one terrier loose when hunting. Probably not as fast as a few Beddies. Also, over the years ,I have seen Foxes do many miles in front of 16 or 17 couple of Foxhounds before popping in so IMO if I was you I wouldn't change a thing about using your Beddies to put Foxes to ground. 1 Quote Link to post
Chaffinch55 98 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 I want to see mortons dogs. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 15/01/2017 at 20:22, neil cooney said: On 15/01/2017 at 20:05, morton said: On 15/01/2017 at 20:02, rob284 said: On 15/01/2017 at 19:29, Troutslayer said: Not too regular no i try too leave the earths as much as possible but whats a good lengh of time? Ive had dogs in earths in the past which have bolted and dug the very same earths two days laterI give a good 3 week before I go back on the same permo. Even if i let a dog sniff an entrance ill only check it again a few weeks later. The facts are around this area any known holding spot will often be visited by several folk in the same weekend.Another fact is it will be empty today and occupied tomorrow. On 15/01/2017 at 20:05, morton said: On 15/01/2017 at 20:02, rob284 said: On 15/01/2017 at 19:29, Troutslayer said: Not too regular no i try too leave the earths as much as possible but whats a good lengh of time? Ive had dogs in earths in the past which have bolted and dug the very same earths two days laterI give a good 3 week before I go back on the same permo. Even if i let a dog sniff an entrance ill only check it again a few weeks later. The facts are around this area any known holding spot will often be visited by several folk in the same weekend.Another fact is it will be empty today and occupied tomorrow. Compare this post to your post to me Morton. In my area foxes usually see a terrier once ,could it be that in your area they encounter and evade them regularly by going to ground ? You're trying to tell me that either one or all of your Bedlingtons are fast enough to put foxes in. Like I said, I'd have one terrier loose when hunting. Probably not as fast as a few Beddies. Also, over the years ,I have seen Foxes do many miles in front of 16 or 17 couple of Foxhounds before popping in so IMO if I was you I wouldn't change a thing about using your Beddies to put Foxes to ground. Neil all im saying is my mongrels often catch in cover,bolt from cover and regularly force to ground.Ive been on many an hunt with Foxhounds and seen the distances the fox trevails before its forced to enter,if i was the owner of a foxpack id source a couple of decent Beddy,s because they often get the job done faster and thats a flying fact that some may have issue with.Im not only saying they are fast enough to catch a vulpine on top,they catch more than their share,im stating they REGULARLY force them to ground by the attention they give them on top.Terrain is a dominant factor and ill guarantee the Beddy,s could not hold form on the Foxhounds regular haunts,it distinguishes itself well enough otherwise,no other terrier does. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 15/01/2017 at 20:31, Chaffinch55 said: I want to see mortons dogs. No you dont,you have allready decided.Honesty mucker and ive yet to own a mutt that id not be honest about. 1 Quote Link to post
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