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I am sure the families of his victims were all terrorists .........

PTSD was the same in ww2 as it is now ... back then guys were shot for being deserters ... lots of men came back from the war changed and were never the same again ... the difference is today that we

And yet millions of lads came back from WW2 and cracked on leading normal productive lives?..........is that a generation thing you think ? Not much pissing and crying from them old boys born in the

 

What Socks dont know and Stiffmiester isn't telling is that I am like the love child of Mike Vronsky and the Predator !!

 

I give up on being serious lol

 

This is ME!!!!!

 

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i had you a couple of pounds heavier,and blonde

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What Socks dont know and Stiffmiester isn't telling is that I am like the love child of Mike Vronsky and the Predator !!

 

I give up on being serious lol

 

This is ME!!!!!

 

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i had you a couple of pounds heavier,and blonde

 

 

I'm gorgeous but I don't want to make people feel bad about themselves, I think that's why the army turned me down

 

I am blonde thought lol

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Got all that clart mate, just needing a few bits and bats , signs etc to place on it

You should be given a laminator with your first tape lol

Lol laminate city you become sick of the smell of the fukcing thing ... that and fabloning maps lol .......

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War: the shooting is fun as long as none of your guys get hit, the waiting around gets very boring.

 

I suppose everyone's experience will be different.

 

I can well believe that, I bet the adrenaline rush of a first contact is insane, it wouldn't be surprising if it was very addictive in a strange way. I also wonder if some/many cases of PTSD is caused by the comedown of returning to 'boring' civilian life rather than just traumatic experiences....is it possible that exposure to massive adrenaline surges does something to people when taken out of that environment?

 

I've worked with loads of ex military guys often paras, marines and especially French foreign legion, as someone who has never been in the military but very interested in history and the military it's quite awkward in a way....there's loads of questions I want to ask but you don't know if it's appropriate.

 

Last year myself and a few friends who are all WW2 aviation nerds got the opportunity to talk to a legendary P-51 pilot, he shot down an ace Luftwaffe pilot called Walter Schuck who was flying a Me-262 (German jet fighter), it was one of the most memorable experiences of my life in many ways. His war ended when he was hit by flak, ditched, was captured, escaped and was then captured by the Russians where he fought as infantry with them. It was a surreal experience to talk to this amazing man.

 

According to his son for most of his life he barely spoke about his war experience, it was only in the last decade that he wanted to....I wonder if that is because he felt people wouldn't understand rather than wanting to forget.

 

Without poking my beak in is there any reason you havent served yourself mate ?....i can never quite get my nut round people who have such an interest and passion for something they have never at least tried themself.

 

 

My true passion was flying and I was desperate to be a pilot but my eyesight went to sh*t, I even pretended to be able to see properly for so long that I couldn't even read the blackboard at school lol. when I was a kid I would read every book I could get my hands on about the RAF in WW2, at that age combat sounds very exciting. To be honest I wouldn't have stood a chance to get in the RAF. Eventually I did get a pilots licence but to go from a civilian licence to commercial is seriously expensive so I packed it in....plus you dont get to drop bombs :D

 

A few years later I tried to join the reserves as infantry and got rejected...I'd like to blame asthma but hilariously I didn't weigh enough! I bet I'm not underweight for the army now lol

 

What a choker i cant imagine the frustration of having so much drive and passion for something you cannot experience for yourself....shame that :thumbs:

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And yet millions of lads came back from WW2 and cracked on leading normal productive lives?..........is that a generation thing you think ?

Not much pissing and crying from them old boys born in the 20s and raised in the 20/30s

 

Maybe they kept quiet....Dosnt mean they did suffer depression or spend there evenings twatting the wife

It wasn't the thing to talk about it so it was kept under wraps and treated with shame. Having combat experience back then wasn't unusual like today (if fact it was the opposite) so maybe that's why people didn't talk?

 

My great grandfather worked with leather, making cases etc, he was in the infantry in WW1 and apparently his squad threw grenades into a trench where they held captured Germans....sounds like a haunted man to me.

 

Spoke to several vets over the years and they are all amazing people who are unassuming and don't like to talk about their experiences, the ones that do tend to be much older. As I said the P-51 pilot we talked to wouldn't talk about his experiences for decades. He is almost 90 now and more open but we don't press him on combat experiences, more general plane stuff. I recorded out conversation with him, you would all probably love it but he has a shit microphone and we couldn't hear him very well. We also had the other guy Walter Schuck (the M<e-262 pilot that he shot down) on coms a few years ago but he has saddly passed away.

 

Our governments send these guys to war (rightly or wrongly) but we should treat them with absolute respect

I'd say one of the reasons some don't talk about their time in the army etc. is because people who weren't there don't understand it, and they get sick of explaining it all in a way they don't have to with people they fought alongside. With a minority of people the danger and shooting does become addictive. Like hunting, the thrill is in the chase rather than the kill.
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