socks 32,253 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 When I was on the balcony I simply said "step aside John and let me go to work"........the rest as they say, is history ! And then you got tangled up in your rope lol ...... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,932 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 The thought of wilf cutting around in crye trousers and a bass pro baseball cap makes me physically cringe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Studies showed that during WW2 the vast majority of Allied soldiers didn't even shoot to kill..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,832 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 When I was on the balcony I simply said "step aside John and let me go to work"........the rest as they say, is history ! And then you got tangled up in your rope lol ...... PMSL.....are you two ganging up ?! Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 If you can't see what your shooting at then you shouldn't be pulling the trigger ... unlike Hollywood you have a limited amount of ammo and if you waste it before your enemy guess what's going to happen ... as for contact distance in this day and age it's normally dictated by the enemy and how brave or superior their feeling some will take it right up to you whilst others will start trying to engage you from a fukc of a long way and unless your taking "effective enemy fire" you just crack on and don't waste ammo firing back ....... Thanks Socks I was under the impression that once you get contact with the enemy you use suppressing fire to keep their heads down while you figure out where they are. If you don't mind answering, you have a patrol that comes under fire, are they going to sit tight under fire and not shoot back whilst they figure out the firing points of the enemy etc? I'm just curious to understand the tactics Cheers! Edit and p.s you can actually see people or muzzle flashes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,832 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 The thought of wilf cutting around in crye trousers and a bass pro baseball cap makes me physically cringe You have witnesses my prowess on the climbing wall !........need I mention your shocking display at hill sprints?.......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,832 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) Studies showed that during WW2 the vast majority of Allied soldiers didn't even shoot to kill..... They never got a chance on the BEF they only gave the poor c**ts about 4 bullets each ! Lol........I wonder if they will show that on that new film with Harry f***ing Styles !!! Edited January 13, 2017 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 If you can't see what your shooting at then you shouldn't be pulling the trigger ... unlike Hollywood you have a limited amount of ammo and if you waste it before your enemy guess what's going to happen ... as for contact distance in this day and age it's normally dictated by the enemy and how brave or superior their feeling some will take it right up to you whilst others will start trying to engage you from a fukc of a long way and unless your taking "effective enemy fire" you just crack on and don't waste ammo firing back ....... Thanks Socks I was under the impression that once you get contact with the enemy you use suppressing fire to keep their heads down while you figure out where they are. If you don't mind answering, you have a patrol that comes under fire, are they going to sit tight under fire and not shoot back whilst they figure out the firing points of the enemy etc? I'm just curious to understand the tactics Cheers! Edit and p.s you can actually see people or muzzle flashes? If you don't know where they are you can't keep their heads down mate it's pointless firing off a magazines worth of ammo if it's in the wrong direction ... When your taking effective enemy fire you get into cover and return fire if you can see the firing point ... whoever can see the firing point then gives a target indication ... i.e 300 meters to the front a group of buildings far right building enemy ... once the firing point has been established the section commander will issue the fire control order and a rapid amount of fire will be returned at the enemy ... whilst that's happening the section commander or platoon commander depending on the size of the patrol will decide what to do ... frontal assault ... right/left flanking etc ...... You will see muzzle flashes or people mate ....... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,932 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 If you can't see what your shooting at then you shouldn't be pulling the trigger ... unlike Hollywood you have a limited amount of ammo and if you waste it before your enemy guess what's going to happen ... as for contact distance in this day and age it's normally dictated by the enemy and how brave or superior their feeling some will take it right up to you whilst others will start trying to engage you from a fukc of a long way and unless your taking "effective enemy fire" you just crack on and don't waste ammo firing back ....... Thanks Socks I was under the impression that once you get contact with the enemy you use suppressing fire to keep their heads down while you figure out where they are. If you don't mind answering, you have a patrol that comes under fire, are they going to sit tight under fire and not shoot back whilst they figure out the firing points of the enemy etc? I'm just curious to understand the tactics Cheers! Edit and p.s you can actually see people or muzzle flashes? In such an instance, I am giggling at the back of an old airborne forces t shirt I used to wear " in the unlikely event of being outgunned , it's important to get the GPMG up on the hip and shout "oi you hat c**t get some of this" all the time looking well tasty throughout " 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltjnr 6,784 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 i personally used to save ammo and only fired when i could see the whites of their eyes ,my bullet to kill ratio was 100%! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 If you can't see what your shooting at then you shouldn't be pulling the trigger ... unlike Hollywood you have a limited amount of ammo and if you waste it before your enemy guess what's going to happen ... as for contact distance in this day and age it's normally dictated by the enemy and how brave or superior their feeling some will take it right up to you whilst others will start trying to engage you from a fukc of a long way and unless your taking "effective enemy fire" you just crack on and don't waste ammo firing back ....... Thanks Socks I was under the impression that once you get contact with the enemy you use suppressing fire to keep their heads down while you figure out where they are. If you don't mind answering, you have a patrol that comes under fire, are they going to sit tight under fire and not shoot back whilst they figure out the firing points of the enemy etc? I'm just curious to understand the tactics Cheers! Edit and p.s you can actually see people or muzzle flashes? If you don't know where they are you can't keep their heads down mate it's pointless firing off a magazines worth of ammo if it's in the wrong direction ... When your taking effective enemy fire you get into cover and return fire if you can see the firing point ... whoever can see the firing point then gives a target indication ... i.e 300 meters to the front a group of buildings far right building enemy ... once the firing point has been established the section commander will issue the fire control order and a rapid amount of fire will be returned at the enemy ... whilst that's happening the section commander or platoon commander depending on the size of the patrol will decide what to do ... frontal assault ... right/left flanking etc ...... You will see muzzle flashes or people mate ....... Thanks again and holy shit! Sorry for asking it's just something I have always wanted to understand, not interested in the so called 'glory' etc 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 i personally used to save ammo and only fired when i could see the whites of their eyes ,my bullet to kill ratio was 100%! I've played that game as well 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 If you can't see what your shooting at then you shouldn't be pulling the trigger ... unlike Hollywood you have a limited amount of ammo and if you waste it before your enemy guess what's going to happen ... as for contact distance in this day and age it's normally dictated by the enemy and how brave or superior their feeling some will take it right up to you whilst others will start trying to engage you from a fukc of a long way and unless your taking "effective enemy fire" you just crack on and don't waste ammo firing back ....... Thanks Socks I was under the impression that once you get contact with the enemy you use suppressing fire to keep their heads down while you figure out where they are. If you don't mind answering, you have a patrol that comes under fire, are they going to sit tight under fire and not shoot back whilst they figure out the firing points of the enemy etc? I'm just curious to understand the tactics Cheers! Edit and p.s you can actually see people or muzzle flashes? In such an instance, I am giggling at the back of an old airborne forces t shirt I used to wear " in the unlikely event of being outgunned , it's important to get the GPMG up on the hip and shout "oi you hat c**t get some of this" all the time looking well tasty throughout " Looking cool as f**k in a firefight is probably more important than anything Can't remember what it was but there was a program with some chaps wearing pink and leopard print underwear and sandals whilst fighting the taliban....hilarious Sense of humour is always important Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,832 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 If you can't see what your shooting at then you shouldn't be pulling the trigger ... unlike Hollywood you have a limited amount of ammo and if you waste it before your enemy guess what's going to happen ... as for contact distance in this day and age it's normally dictated by the enemy and how brave or superior their feeling some will take it right up to you whilst others will start trying to engage you from a fukc of a long way and unless your taking "effective enemy fire" you just crack on and don't waste ammo firing back ....... Thanks Socks I was under the impression that once you get contact with the enemy you use suppressing fire to keep their heads down while you figure out where they are. If you don't mind answering, you have a patrol that comes under fire, are they going to sit tight under fire and not shoot back whilst they figure out the firing points of the enemy etc? I'm just curious to understand the tactics Cheers! Edit and p.s you can actually see people or muzzle flashes? In such an instance, I am giggling at the back of an old airborne forces t shirt I used to wear " in the unlikely event of being outgunned , it's important to get the GPMG up on the hip and shout "oi you hat c**t get some of this" all the time looking well tasty throughout " It actually said, phone WILF the one man regiment and stand well back whilst gasping with awe ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 If you can't see what your shooting at then you shouldn't be pulling the trigger ... unlike Hollywood you have a limited amount of ammo and if you waste it before your enemy guess what's going to happen ... as for contact distance in this day and age it's normally dictated by the enemy and how brave or superior their feeling some will take it right up to you whilst others will start trying to engage you from a fukc of a long way and unless your taking "effective enemy fire" you just crack on and don't waste ammo firing back ....... Thanks Socks I was under the impression that once you get contact with the enemy you use suppressing fire to keep their heads down while you figure out where they are. If you don't mind answering, you have a patrol that comes under fire, are they going to sit tight under fire and not shoot back whilst they figure out the firing points of the enemy etc? I'm just curious to understand the tactics Cheers! Edit and p.s you can actually see people or muzzle flashes? In such an instance, I am giggling at the back of an old airborne forces t shirt I used to wear " in the unlikely event of being outgunned , it's important to get the GPMG up on the hip and shout "oi you hat c**t get some of this" all the time looking well tasty throughout " It actually said, phone WILF the one man regiment and stand well back whilst gasping with awe ! Fukc sake mate you must be blind it said ... phone WILF the one man helmet and stand well back whilst he is grappling with an ewe ........ 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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