Not Making Grade

[Aussie Whip 4,083]

To answer socks they probably don't need to be that fast or have high drive for ferreting,I've just got dogs from a long line of ferreting dogs which happen to be fast and driven and come to expect that from my dogs.I consider my dogs to be fairly game after I was attacked by a rouge 6ft roo wnen ferreting.My little 12kg whippet/stag had the roo on the ground by the throat in a second,copping a big rip on her ribs.I managed to get her off it,with the surprised roo taking off.She is usually stock and roo proof except for that occasion.Handy to have a bit of gameness,though I don't expect it from these dogs.

[DogFox123 1,379]

If a dog hasn't got enough drive for rats and rabbits it's time to say goodbye IMO.

[jake824 517]

 

Had an 1/2 bull grey throw the towel in at just over 3 I'd seen the dog work from a youngster,took him off a friend ,that couldn't keep him ,then one day started barking ,was never the same dog again .

Just goes to show how easily gameness is lost when crossing Bulldogs with other breeds.

a lot depends on the breeding of both sire and dam though. Any bulldog to any old greyhound does nt throw good half crosses. Which is where a lot of the problems lie with a lot of the bull crosses today .

[DogFox123 1,379]

 

 

Had an 1/2 bull grey throw the towel in at just over 3 I'd seen the dog work from a youngster,took him off a friend ,that couldn't keep him ,then one day started barking ,was never the same dog again .

Just goes to show how easily gameness is lost when crossing Bulldogs with other breeds.

a lot depends on the breeding of both sire and dam though. Any bulldog to any old greyhound does nt throw good half crosses. Which is where a lot of the problems lie with a lot of the bull crosses today .

If a person buys any old dog with out doing the proper research then more fool them.

[springfield 20]

 

 

 

Had an 1/2 bull grey throw the towel in at just over 3 I'd seen the dog work from a youngster,took him off a friend ,that couldn't keep him ,then one day started barking ,was never the same dog again .

Just goes to show how easily gameness is lost when crossing Bulldogs with other breeds.

a lot depends on the breeding of both sire and dam though. Any bulldog to any old greyhound does nt throw good half crosses. Which is where a lot of the problems lie with a lot of the bull crosses today .

If a person buys any old dog with out doing the proper research then more fool them.

This is why there's so many on the selling pages

[Silversnake 1,099]

I think people are too precious with the word game. I don't believe only a bulldog or rooster can show gameness. People call horses game after a hard run, after watching a kelpie or cattle dog run all day in extreme heat I can find no more suitable word to describe their efforts. Calling a ten week old pup game is a bit rich though and if someone called something dead game I would have to strongly disagree, particularly if the animal was still breathing, but I don't think gameness is exclusive to bulldogs and roosters.

[DogFox123 1,379]

I think people are too precious with the word game. I don't believe only a bulldog or rooster can show gameness. People call horses game after a hard run, after watching a kelpie or cattle dog run all day in extreme heat I can find no more suitable word to describe their efforts. Calling a ten week old pup game is a bit rich though and if someone called something dead game I would have to strongly disagree, particularly if the animal was still breathing, but I don't think gameness is exclusive to bulldogs and roosters.

Gameness is a word, a person has the right to call whatever animal he likes game.

[shaaark 10,693]

 

I think people are too precious with the word game. I don't believe only a bulldog or rooster can show gameness. People call horses game after a hard run, after watching a kelpie or cattle dog run all day in extreme heat I can find no more suitable word to describe their efforts. Calling a ten week old pup game is a bit rich though and if someone called something dead game I would have to strongly disagree, particularly if the animal was still breathing, but I don't think gameness is exclusive to bulldogs and roosters.

Gameness is a word, a person has the right to call whatever animal he likes game.

 

I had a really game ferret years ago

[DogFox123 1,379]

 

 

 

I think people are too precious with the word game. I don't believe only a bulldog or rooster can show gameness. People call horses game after a hard run, after watching a kelpie or cattle dog run all day in extreme heat I can find no more suitable word to describe their efforts. Calling a ten week old pup game is a bit rich though and if someone called something dead game I would have to strongly disagree, particularly if the animal was still breathing, but I don't think gameness is exclusive to bulldogs and roosters.

Gameness is a word, a person has the right to call whatever animal he likes game.

I had a really game ferret years ago

Not as game as my Goldfish....

[shaaark 10,693]

 

 

 

I think people are too precious with the word game. I don't believe only a bulldog or rooster can show gameness. People call horses game after a hard run, after watching a kelpie or cattle dog run all day in extreme heat I can find no more suitable word to describe their efforts. Calling a ten week old pup game is a bit rich though and if someone called something dead game I would have to strongly disagree, particularly if the animal was still breathing, but I don't think gameness is exclusive to bulldogs and roosters.

Gameness is a word, a person has the right to call whatever animal he likes game.

I had a really game ferret years ago

Not as game as my Goldfish....

 

Probably not lol

[shaaark 10,693]

I think people are too precious with the word game. I don't believe only a bulldog or rooster can show gameness. People call horses game after a hard run, after watching a kelpie or cattle dog run all day in extreme heat I can find no more suitable word to describe their efforts. Calling a ten week old pup game is a bit rich though and if someone called something dead game I would have to strongly disagree, particularly if the animal was still breathing, but I don't think gameness is exclusive to bulldogs and roosters.

Without turning this into a 20 pager, why would you disagree with someone calling their dog dead game, if it was still alive. Dead game doesn't mean the dog is dead. Dead = absolutely, dead game =very game, absolutely game, Same as dead quiet, dead right etc

[roybo 2,873]

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[roybo 2,873]

I suppose it's semantics .

And the fact that gameness is a phrase that's been used for GAME dogs and birds for millennia.

When even some winning game dogs may not be game ,to them I suppose calling a lurcher game is at odds with their ideals.

[roybo 2,873]

But I suppose,if you are running a few rabbits ,why the need to call a dog game ,as surely gameness will never come into it?

[shaaark 10,693]

I suppose it's semantics .

And the fact that gameness is a phrase that's been used for GAME dogs and birds for millennia.

When even some winning game dogs may not be game ,to them I suppose calling a lurcher game is at odds with their ideals.

 

 

But I suppose,if you are running a few rabbits ,why the need to call a dog game ,as surely gameness will never come into it?

I like your grasp of english language roybo lol. I agree with your comments, but the word 'game' isn't restricted to fighting dogs and birds. There are many instances where 'gameness' comes into the equation. I think socks touched on a point about greyhounds being game, and I agree with that., Not all greyhounds, same as not all bulldogs, but it takes guts, drive, determination, 'gameness', for a greyhound to continue to chase the hare on track when it's broken/fractured a bone in it's leg for example, until the end of the race. I know that their only running for a short while, but it must still be painful running at those speeds with a broken toe, hock, pulled ligament etc.

And I suppose the same could be said for alot of coursing dogs etc. But I agree, I don't think you need a game dog for running a few rabbits.

Edited January 13, 2017 by shaaark