Longnet Height/meshes Deep

[beany01 223]

Hello All, what is the height of a longnet? How many meshes deep are they? I'm only asking as I brought 12 100yard trammel nets for for my boat, but I only want them for the floatline and leadline, as I want to eventually rig mono roker nets in the frame. This will leave me with 1200 yards of 6z nylon trammel net with a 4mm poly cord through the bottom and top selvage. They are 6ft deep at the minute, but it's no problem cutting the net in half and stitching a new headline/bottom rope on them, so each net could rig up to make 2 x 150 yard longnets

Edited January 8, 2017 by beany01

[Tiercel 6,986]

A sheet netting long net in 4" mesh is 15.5 meshes deep including selvedges that equates to 5ft or 62 inches in depth, but that is stretched netting.

 

TC

[beany01 223]

Cheers thanks very much

[beany01 223]

Sounds virtually perfect. The inner wall of the trammels should be 30 meshes deep, so they could be cut to make two longnets. As these nets are rigged to a third, and longnets are rigged to a half, I could make 1x100 yard, 2x50s, 2x25 and a few stop nets out of one trammel. All from netting I didn't actually want. Sounds a winner, better get the needles filled.

[Tiercel 6,986]

Sounds virtually perfect. The inner wall of the trammels should be 30 meshes deep, so they could be cut to make two longnets. As these nets are rigged to a third, and longnets are rigged to a half, I could make 1x100 yard, 2x50s, 2x25 and a few stop nets out of one trammel. All from netting I didn't actually want. Sounds a winner, better get the needles filled.

The first nets I made myself were out of an old trammel, that was close on 30 years ago believe it or not I still have them, all-be-it patched and looking like Joseph's coat.

 

TC

[beany01 223]

I think these nets with need repairing in places, the hydraulic hauling gear isn't very forgiving if anything catches up when hauling. As I'm new to this ferreting game, I have never used longnets. Would you keep them as trammels or just use the 4" inner lint on its own?

[Tiercel 6,986]

Strip them out, repair them then rig them as a Danish rig.

 

TC

[beany01 223]

Could I ask what a Danish rig is? When it comes to ferret nets I've never actually seen any in the flesh, but I've rigged plenty of commercial fishing gear, so Understand how to rig a net and set it by a third/half/two-thirds etc. Thanks for your replies so far!

[Tiercel 6,986]

Danish rig is a rig for sole where the lead line is just threaded through the bottom selvedge with no staples and the headline is a normal staple rigged by a third, with a double 8mm polyprop headline.

 

TC

[beany01 223]

Ah I get you. These are crosstide trammels, the lead line is number 5 and the float rope is number 4. They couldn't have been cheap to rig. Netting is too heavy and bulky for my beach boat, but it was cheaper to buy these second hand and strip them out of the frame than buy new.

[Tiercel 6,986]

As a bye, what size mesh do you intend to use for the Ray / Roker nets? I worked on a Ray boat for a couple of years on the neap tides. We would shoot and haul 6 miles of net per day. In the early spring /late winter we would use 10" mesh but as the spiders started coming in we would progress to 14" mesh, #5 leadline and double 6 or 8mm head line.

 

TC

[beany01 223]

We always use 10.5" for the roker. I normally just shoot the multimono sole trammels and get a little of everything, but the smooth hounds are so thick, they fill up the gear in no time. So it's a good way of avoiding them. We only start seeing them inshore around late May, and % have moved back outside by end of August.

[Tiercel 6,986]

We would start off in the second half of February in 300ft + of water very hit and miss, but even the hits were not great. The bye catch of lobster and big cod would make some wages. As the days grow longer so the fish would start to come in and each set of neap's would see the boat fishing shallower water. Once the gulf stream came in, usually end of April it would start to get busy then and the net size would be upped to try and avoid the spiders and the mayweed.

[beany01 223]

Half the year we drift net herring and sprats. Very little mackerel the last few years. In the summer we do a little potting for crabs and lobsters, and put a few trammels over for a few sole, bass and roker. We used to line for cod in the winter, but last few years have been no cod here. We also used to get some bass in the summer on the lines, all between 8-16lb. Cracking fish. The last few years have been very hard. There hasn't been hardly any herring this year either which is very strange. We usually limit the nets to only 10 and get 100+ stone everyday, but I think all the high pressures haven't helped. We went a few days ago, shot 20 herring nets and 20 spray nets, ended up with 8 herring and 9kg sprats. Still it was a lovely day, got a few sprats for a fry, and put a few in the freezer to see if the ferrets like them