The Right To Die

[pesky1972 5,334]

Surely this is a 100% agree topic to be able to end your own life. Let's see!!!

I think the issue we have is less that someone should be allowed to end their life before it becomes intolerable due to illness, and more with the mechanics of their requiring assistance.

 

I'm 100% for assisting very sick people end their suffering and would do it for my loved ones as I hope they'd do it for me.

 

Like you I think the overwhelming majority of people would agree. We just need to get the politicians to get their fingers out their arses and get on with delivering what the people want..., and need.

[pesky1972 5,334]

Its just soceity going down the toilet, were do you draw the line, should a chronicly depressed person say i dont want to go on, can i kill myself, whos to say he cant, worlds f****d.

 

It's complicated no doubt but personally I believe assisted suicide should be enabled for those with a terminal condition and only at a specific stage in their suffering.

 

I watched my own mother suffer before she eventually died. And although I can't prove it, I believe that there was an element of 'passive euthanasia' in her final moments. If so then I'm glad that someone was able to relieve her pain.

 

It sounds like your own ma was a real fighter with all those ailments, but I'm guessing that her suffering was eased and her life prolonged by the wonders of modern medicine? Medicine nowadays has the ability to keep people going long after the body would naturally have given up...., but it does have its limits. If we can use medicine to 'unnaturally' prolong life and ease suffering, then why shouldn't we then use 'unnatural' intervention to end the suffering when it becomes too much?

[Francie 6,368]

Thanks mate, actually it was all the tabs she was on ate her liver to bits.

[j j m 6,555]

i think you should have the right if your going to die soon ,some illnesses are to painfull to stretch out

[delswal 3,819]

I know this wont go down well, but what happened to perservering, the cure could be round the corner, its easy for me to say this cause im not in this man shoes, it seems like the cowardly act to me, i watched my mum die slowly but surely go downhill, an in all those years she didnt complain once, thats true. In a wheelchair, brittle bones, coliac, crohns, leaky gut, shatterd legs an pelvis, cancer. Etc an more tbh i dont know how she done it, i had her out an about all the time she loved it, her mind was there but not her body.

 

Its his choice, if he wants an no man should stop him, but i dont agree with it, but its his choice.

 

Its just soceity going down the toilet, were do you draw the line, should a chronicly depressed person say i dont want to go on, can i kill myself, whos to say he cant, worlds f****d.

Cowardly ? Man is dying from an incurable disease and you think he's a coward for taking his own life? For a man to take his own life and leave behind his wife and children to end his own suffering would be a brave man in my books. The cure could be round the corner you say, well if it is, lets just hope he's got plenty of money or lives in the right post code eh............... I just hope for his sake a member of his family are as brave as him and assists him in his last wishes, and tells the law to go get FCUKED

[Francie 6,368]

 

 

I know this wont go down well, but what happened to perservering, the cure could be round the corner, its easy for me to say this cause im not in this man shoes, it seems like the cowardly act to me, i watched my mum die slowly but surely go downhill, an in all those years she didnt complain once, thats true. In a wheelchair, brittle bones, coliac, crohns, leaky gut, shatterd legs an pelvis, cancer. Etc an more tbh i dont know how she done it, i had her out an about all the time she loved it, her mind was there but not her body.

 

Its his choice, if he wants an no man should stop him, but i dont agree with it, but its his choice.

 

Its just soceity going down the toilet, were do you draw the line, should a chronicly depressed person say i dont want to go on, can i kill myself, whos to say he cant, worlds f****d.

Cowardly ? Man is dying from an incurable disease and you think he's a coward for taking his own life? For a man to take his own life and leave behind his wife and children to end his own suffering would be a brave man in my books. The cure could be round the corner you say, well if it is, lets just hope he's got plenty of money or lives in the right post code eh............... I just hope for his sake a member of his family are as brave as him and assists him in his last wishes, and tells the law to go get FCUKED

mate i ment no disrespect to the man, i just think it is asking someone to kill you, why dont he do it himself?

[delswal 3,819]

 

 

I know this wont go down well, but what happened to perservering, the cure could be round the corner, its easy for me to say this cause im not in this man shoes, it seems like the cowardly act to me, i watched my mum die slowly but surely go downhill, an in all those years she didnt complain once, thats true. In a wheelchair, brittle bones, coliac, crohns, leaky gut, shatterd legs an pelvis, cancer. Etc an more tbh i dont know how she done it, i had her out an about all the time she loved it, her mind was there but not her body.

 

Its his choice, if he wants an no man should stop him, but i dont agree with it, but its his choice.

 

Its just soceity going down the toilet, were do you draw the line, should a chronicly depressed person say i dont want to go on, can i kill myself, whos to say he cant, worlds f****d.

Cowardly ? Man is dying from an incurable disease and you think he's a coward for taking his own life? For a man to take his own life and leave behind his wife and children to end his own suffering would be a brave man in my books. The cure could be round the corner you say, well if it is, lets just hope he's got plenty of money or lives in the right post code eh............... I just hope for his sake a member of his family are as brave as him and assists him in his last wishes, and tells the law to go get FCUKED

mate i ment no disrespect to the man, i just think it is asking someone to kill you, why dont he do it himself?

 

Because he wants to live as long as possible, but when the time comes if he cannot physically do it himself he wants somebody to assist him

[Tiercel 6,986]

To be trapped in a body that just does not work any more must be terrible, to be trapped in a body that just does not work any more, yet gives unbearable pain day and night without any chance of recovery, is to my mind incomprehensible.

 

To be unable to help people like that must be torture, watching someone you love and care for going through that every day and having the feeling of helplessness for the simple reason they are beyond doing it themselves, yet the law will not allow you to help them to end their pain. It is quite simply wrong.

 

TC

[beast 1,884]

whenn my grandmother died from pancreatic cancer, she really just starved to death as she couldnt digest food. totally untreatable, totally incurable. we watched the poor woman fade away too weak to even lift a finger let alone take her own life over the course of many weeks. dont talk about being a coward for wanting to end this torment, talk abpout being a coward if somebody you love wants you to help end their suffering but you refuse.

 

what would you have done francie (with all respect) if your poor mother had asked for help to end her suffering? disrespect her wishes, or be too scare of the law to help, or would you have honoured her?

 

when my grandmother was sick, mother tended her at home right to the end. she said to me after "if i ever end up like that, will you help me to end it?" and i promised i would. i will stand by that.

Edited January 7, 2017 by beast

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,139]

Had a harrowing experience recently when a very good friend f mine with life changing injuries basically to leave me goodbye over Xmas,

 

I don't get home much, and his injures aren't a bit of nerve damage or even a waist down paralysis

 

He's paralysed from the chest down

 

He's not the type If person to deal with this and he will always see the negatives

 

Would I be annoyed if he done himself in? Yes

 

Would I miss him? Yes

 

But would i respect his choice ? Of course

 

Some people's lives are not important against their dignity, I admire anyone who can be brave enough to say, rightnthats me , I'm off

[Paulnix 426]

 

 

I watched my own mother suffer before she eventually died. And although I can't prove it, I believe that there was an element of 'passive euthanasia' in her final moments. If so then I'm glad that someone was able to relieve her pain.

 

I am 100% positive my own mother was helped along as well, just brought it forward it a few hours which saved a massive amount of suffering and will be ever grateful to the nurse who did it.

 

 

Assisted suicide isn't the patient getting the bad news and just going out killing yourself, its about living as long as you can with some sort of quality of life until such a time you can't do anything without help which is why they can't just sit down with some whiskey and a gun and do it themselves.

Lost my mother to pancreatic cancer, wifes father with MS, close neighbour to motor neuron and in each of those cases you degrade in such a way that while you are still capable to do it yourself you still got something to live for, a quality of life, in my mothers case it was seeing her grandchildren, to have that taken away from both her and us for the reason she would of had to of taken her own life unassisted a month before depriving her and my sisters children of those times, once you no longer have that it has gone too far to do it yourself.

[Francie 6,368]

So if someone wants to die by ethunasia, is it suicide?, or is it murder?

 

Why cant people just die naturally like 99% of everyone else that has died in the world, if they want to kill themselves they should do it themselves, just before that point, as someone said, i think my mum was brave for fighting to the end, not the other way about?

 

Anyone who agrees with it, why do they not kill themselves?

[General lee 979]

I don't think your getting it mate what's meant is they want to live as long as possible but if they get to a point where they aren't physically capable of ending it themselves they want someone to help and let's be honest it's not like they are asking someone to cut theyre head off or a close family member to strangle them they just want a professional to give them a injection that will stop the suffering

[beast 1,884]

So if someone wants to die by ethunasia, is it suicide?, or is it murder?

 

Why cant people just die naturally like 99% of everyone else that has died in the world, if they want to kill themselves they should do it themselves, just before that point, as someone said, i think my mum was brave for fighting to the end, not the other way about?

 

Anyone who agrees with it, why do they not kill themselves?

well i expect they will kill themselves if they get to a state where they cannot bear it any longer.

 

as I asked before Francie, with respect, what would ypou have done if your brave mother had been asking you to help her end her suffering? wou;ld ypou have turned a deaf ear to her needs or helped a brave old lady to pass with dignity?

[Francie 6,368]

Tbh mate, no i would definatley not, having that on my conscience, no way.