Conspiracy Theories/truths..

[waltjnr 6,601]

why is it ok to believe everything ,goverment officials/experts ,intelligent agencies tell us ,its not like you ever hear of corruption ,dodgy goings on at that level is it?

I personally think those at the top are a devious pit of vipers who really dont give a flying fcku for the the people whose well being they are suppose to look after!

[dazbrowne 13 334]

why is it ok to believe everything ,goverment officials/experts ,intelligent agencies tell us ,its not like you ever hear of corruption ,dodgy goings on at that level is it?

I personally think those at the top are a devious pit of vipers who really dont give a flying fcku for the the people whose well being they are suppose to look after!

 

because the masses are sheeple with an I'm alright jack attitude my dad calls it thatcherism same as all the illegal immigrants raping and killing people but the government says there good people so they must be eh WAKE UP PEOPLE

[General lee 979]

So what is everyone saying it wasn't terrorists?

[WILF 46,605]

I find it hard to beleive that something as catastrophic as the twin towers was engineered by a government on it's own people.......however what I do actually beleive is that all governments will have bits of legislation, designed to increase their power and decrease your freedom, just sitting on the shelf ready for any eventuality (like the Patriot Act)

 

There is no doubt that western governments have exploited Islamic terrorism to increase the tax take and infringe people's civil liberties, that is as plain as day.

[neems 2,406]

I find it hard to beleive that something as catastrophic as the twin towers was engineered by a government on it's own people.......however what I do actually beleive is that all governments will have bits of legislation, designed to increase their power and decrease your freedom, just sitting on the shelf ready for any eventuality (like the Patriot Act)

 

There is no doubt that western governments have exploited Islamic terrorism to increase the tax take and infringe people's civil liberties, that is as plain as day.

 

 

I honestly think Trump and Brexit being huge a push against globalism has put the brakes on her plans,so she took another route for now.

But this shows her real plans for us.

[mackem 26,209]

Lots of hyperbole and spiel,keeps mentioning keywords such as british-values,intolerance etc but she is failing ro realise we ARENT one society,they let the extremism preaching progress,they should have stamped on it the first day old hookie abu hamza first stepped outside of finsbury park mosque with his masked bodyguards and started spouting vitriol,politicos try to control us like pawns in a game,whittling away at your freedoms bit by bit,i always said that's why we are subjects ie subjugated.

[shepp 2,285]

How many conspiracy theories have been proven to be true?

Edited January 3, 2017 by shepp

[WILF 46,605]

They don't want to get rid of Islamic extremists just like they don't want to get people off benefits.......it's a brilliant tool to manipulate and control people.

It's the only logical reason they have allowed mass uncontrolled immigration into Europe.......better to show the bloke your trying to extort money out of the big stick than just tell him you have one

[neems 2,406]

Lots of hyperbole and spiel,keeps mentioning keywords such as british-values,intolerance etc but she is failing ro realise we ARENT one society,they let the extremism preaching progress,they should have stamped on it the first day old hookie abu hamza first stepped outside of finsbury park mosque with his masked bodyguards and started spouting vitriol,politicos try to control us like pawns in a game,whittling away at your freedoms bit by bit,i always said that's why we are subjects ie subjugated.

 

No need to worry about JFK or the twin towers with women like her leading the country.

[The Seeker 3,048]

 

 

 

 

Tell me that isn't a controlled demolition

It does look like it, but knowing how long it takes to set something like that up, isn't it likely someone would have seen a load of blokes walking around with explosives in the weeks/months beforehand?

 

Or have they been "dealt with?"

I offer no explanations, that's how you get labelled a conspiracy nut

 

All I'm saying is I cannot believe that a little fire or debris caused WTC7 to collapse perfectly like that.

 

The DOD, Secret Services and the CIA used that building, crazy to imagine they would occupy a building that could be knocked down by a mouse's fart lol

They did a program on how to use explosives to ring down one of the buildings in 9/11. It would have taken a week of a gang of 20 explosive guys drilling into concrete supports and installing thousands of yards of det cables to achieve.

No conspiracy just fate and some nasty Muslims.

If it would take all that then how did two planes, that did not get anywhere near the concrete supports bring them down?

I'm certainly no expert, however the documentary used leading scientists in metals to describe the temperatures created didn't melt the girders they where just hot enough to soften them, the fact there was the weight of a quarter of the tower hundreds of thousands of tonnes on top of this damage it just buckled and the force collapsed the towers.

[shepp 2,285]

 

 

 

 

 

Tell me that isn't a controlled demolition

It does look like it, but knowing how long it takes to set something like that up, isn't it likely someone would have seen a load of blokes walking around with explosives in the weeks/months beforehand?

 

Or have they been "dealt with?"

I offer no explanations, that's how you get labelled a conspiracy nut

 

All I'm saying is I cannot believe that a little fire or debris caused WTC7 to collapse perfectly like that.

 

The DOD, Secret Services and the CIA used that building, crazy to imagine they would occupy a building that could be knocked down by a mouse's fart lol

They did a program on how to use explosives to ring down one of the buildings in 9/11. It would have taken a week of a gang of 20 explosive guys drilling into concrete supports and installing thousands of yards of det cables to achieve.

No conspiracy just fate and some nasty Muslims.

If it would take all that then how did two planes, that did not get anywhere near the concrete supports bring them down?

I'm certainly no expert, however the documentary used leading scientists in metals to describe the temperatures created didn't melt the girders they where just hot enough to soften them, the fact there was the weight of a quarter of the tower hundreds of thousands of tonnes on top of this damage it just buckled and the force collapsed the towers.

 

 

Steel girders are sprayed with fireproofing insulation in all commercial buildings these days, that's to stop them buckling during a fire.

[The Seeker 3,048]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tell me that isn't a controlled demolition

 

It does look like it, but knowing how long it takes to set something like that up, isn't it likely someone would have seen a load of blokes walking around with explosives in the weeks/months beforehand?

 

Or have they been "dealt with?"

I offer no explanations, that's how you get labelled a conspiracy nut

 

All I'm saying is I cannot believe that a little fire or debris caused WTC7 to collapse perfectly like that.

 

The DOD, Secret Services and the CIA used that building, crazy to imagine they would occupy a building that could be knocked down by a mouse's fart lol

They did a program on how to use explosives to ring down one of the buildings in 9/11. It would have taken a week of a gang of 20 explosive guys drilling into concrete supports and installing thousands of yards of det cables to achieve.

No conspiracy just fate and some nasty Muslims.

If it would take all that then how did two planes, that did not get anywhere near the concrete supports bring them down?

I'm certainly no expert, however the documentary used leading scientists in metals to describe the temperatures created didn't melt the girders they where just hot enough to soften them, the fact there was the weight of a quarter of the tower hundreds of thousands of tonnes on top of this damage it just buckled and the force collapsed the towers.

Steel girders are sprayed with fireproofing insulation in all commercial buildings these days, that's to stop them buckling during a fire.

Fire proofing is only a delay though surely, fire proofing is rated by the hours it can sustain a fire for example a 1 hour rated fire door?

 

I don't understand why this is being questioned if you see the towers collapse they don't collapse from the bottom they implode from the top just as the experts said and where the aircraft damage is or are we saying the terrorists were part of the conspiricey?

 

There is no conspiracy here chaps. JFK I think so, Princess Diana hmm may be, moon landings extremely doubtful, but this, nothing other than people wanting to see things that aren't there.

 

ATB

[shepp 2,285]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tell me that isn't a controlled demolition

It does look like it, but knowing how long it takes to set something like that up, isn't it likely someone would have seen a load of blokes walking around with explosives in the weeks/months beforehand?

 

Or have they been "dealt with?"

I offer no explanations, that's how you get labelled a conspiracy nut

 

All I'm saying is I cannot believe that a little fire or debris caused WTC7 to collapse perfectly like that.

 

The DOD, Secret Services and the CIA used that building, crazy to imagine they would occupy a building that could be knocked down by a mouse's fart lol

They did a program on how to use explosives to ring down one of the buildings in 9/11. It would have taken a week of a gang of 20 explosive guys drilling into concrete supports and installing thousands of yards of det cables to achieve.

No conspiracy just fate and some nasty Muslims.

If it would take all that then how did two planes, that did not get anywhere near the concrete supports bring them down?

I'm certainly no expert, however the documentary used leading scientists in metals to describe the temperatures created didn't melt the girders they where just hot enough to soften them, the fact there was the weight of a quarter of the tower hundreds of thousands of tonnes on top of this damage it just buckled and the force collapsed the towers.

Steel girders are sprayed with fireproofing insulation in all commercial buildings these days, that's to stop them buckling during a fire.

Fire proofing is only a delay though surely, fire proofing is rated by the hours it can sustain a fire for example a 1 hour rated fire door?

 

I don't understand why this is being questioned if you see the towers collapse they don't collapse from the bottom they implode from the top just as the experts said and where the aircraft damage is or are we saying the terrorists were part of the conspiricey?

 

There is no conspiracy here chaps. JFK I think so, Princess Diana hmm may be, moon landings extremely doubtful, but this, nothing other than people wanting to see things that aren't there.

 

ATB

 

 

I agree with you mate, the twin towers were probably built before fire proofing was used on girders, I can't remember seeing it when I started in the building trade 20 / 30 years ago.

I was just saying the a fire like this can buckle steel girders.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,695]

I read a good book about 911 where a serious engineer investigated it

 

He set up demos charges etc on the blueprints , mapped the damage and showed the firing point on his expectations and mirrored it exactly to the damage caused and the place he chose as a firing point was an office exposed as a cia front company

 

Then I remembered it's all nonsense and chucked it

 

As stated the exposure and tasking of all such things is of a volume that can't be comprehended , that's what nails it for me

[WILF 46,605]

Rigging a building that size would have been a piece of piss I'm afraid, I spent my working life in and out of commercial building like that and on a building that size 200 blokes milling about for months wouldn't even get noticed chaps.

Simply no one would bat an eyelid.