morton 5,368 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 I have a bitch meant to be bred down from a dog called Shamus any one no much on this dog atb The majority of paperwork on Beddy,s wants ripping up and binning,its not worth the paper its written on.Id forget whats in many a Beddys ancestry because much of it is less than illustrious in the working field.The only thing of any importance now with anything remotely representing a worker is what its recent breeding offers and thats as far back as it needs to go.Im all for its heritage and early history,the folk that swam against the tide to keep it as a working type terrier when all others chased a guilded ribbon and bank balance,the folk that left a diminishing working gene pool that later folk could work from and enhance.The vast majority of honest working Bedlingtons now have little in common with the terrier names that polluted older paperwork,the majority of the time,the decent stuff on any slip of paper will have no bearing whatsoever on the grafters now,their influence is diluted to such an extent as to make it worthless against its recent heritage. 2 Quote Link to post
TOPPER 1,809 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 thankfully due to the diehard s there still some good beddys around but there getting harder to find the real terriers 1 Quote Link to post
coco 261 Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) thankfully due to the diehard s there still some good beddys around but there getting harder to find the real terriers thankfully due to the diehard s there still some good beddys around but there getting harder to find the real terriersworker to worker and you shouldnt go wrong there will always be litter wastage but a few who as kept a line fairly tite get results simple as atb there out there keep dreaming Morton Edited December 19, 2016 by coco 2 Quote Link to post
Coursing mad 24 874 Posted December 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 thankfully due to the diehard s there still some good beddys around but there getting harder to find the real terriers thankfully due to the diehard s there still some good beddys around but there getting harder to find the real terriersworker to worker and you shouldnt go wrong there will always be litter wastage but a few who as kept a line fairly tite get results simple as atb there out there keep dreaming Morton well said Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 thankfully due to the diehard s there still some good beddys around but there getting harder to find the real terriers thankfully due to the diehard s there still some good beddys around but there getting harder to find the real terriersworker to worker and you shouldnt go wrong there will always be litter wastage but a few who as kept a line fairly tite get results simple as atb there out there keep dreaming Morton Litter wastage?,thats the reason there is so much dross about because litter wastage,with a few names sprinkled amidst the pedigree is the mainstay of the modern Bedlington.I breed mine tighter than most and bred towards more of a work ethic than the majority of pedigrees ever did.I used to dream of a unified effort to produce a nucleus of bedlingtons that were reminiscent of their working heritage and conformation,thats a lost cause with the ego,s that pollute the breed for dollar,dollar that often equates to the paper the dogs bred from and i want no part of that.Gutchcommon lines when the dogs ran freely out of control and many a litter was bred with a ?,Granitor lines that were tall and light coloured and within a few generations they were far smaller and dark without any change in the names on their pedigrees?Rillington lines that strayed from their purpose when George aged.I stopped dreaming a while back and got real and mine will hold company with any honest worker bred now,Bedlington or other. 2 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 brought mine direct from s/staley. treacle was his bitch, a daughter of rambo, aherns rusty was a son of rambo. if memory serves me well,it was treacle that carried the lakeland blood. was some years past tho, so could be wrong... Yokel brought mine direct from s/staley. treacle was his bitch, a daughter of rambo, aherns rusty was a son of rambo. if memory serves me well,it was treacle that carried the lakeland blood. was some years past tho, so could be wrong... Yokel Rusty was bred by rambo to meg of brynwood by j piggin cheers, all long gone. treacle was a quarter lakey, i know she was out of rambo, but can't recall the half cross she was out of?Yokel By Rambo, they can't be OUT OF a dog ! I wouldn't admit anything I had was by that rubbish in a court of law, if you r terriers suit you it came from the Dam. 3 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 thankfully due to the diehard s there still some good beddys around but there getting harder to find the real terriers thankfully due to the diehard s there still some good beddys around but there getting harder to find the real terriers worker to worker and you shouldnt go wrong there will always be litter wastage but a few who as kept a line fairly tite get results simple as atb there out there keep dreaming Morton Litter wastage?,thats the reason there is so much dross about because litter wastage,with a few names sprinkled amidst the pedigree is the mainstay of the modern Bedlington.I breed mine tighter than most and bred towards more of a work ethic than the majority of pedigrees ever did.I used to dream of a unified effort to produce a nucleus of bedlingtons that were reminiscent of their working heritage and conformation,thats a lost cause with the ego,s that pollute the breed for dollar,dollar that often equates to the paper the dogs bred from and i want no part of that.Gutchcommon lines when the dogs ran freely out of control and many a litter was bred with a ?,Granitor lines that were tall and light coloured and within a few generations they were far smaller and dark without any change in the names on their pedigrees?Rillington lines that strayed from their purpose when George aged.I stopped dreaming a while back and got real and mine will hold company with any honest worker bred now,Bedlington or other. Very straight forward post mate ,apart from the last sentence .I'm sure your a wind up merchant who would never dream of using more than one dog to ground .If you are that man you are welcome here any time as there's plenty to go at. 2 Quote Link to post
Cargol 302 Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 I'm pretty sure Dilly Dog bred that Choc dog on the right. 1 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 thankfully due to the diehard s there still some good beddys around but there getting harder to find the real terriers thankfully due to the diehard s there still some good beddys around but there getting harder to find the real terriersworker to worker and you shouldnt go wrong there will always be litter wastage but a few who as kept a line fairly tite get results simple as atb there out there keep dreaming MortonLitter wastage?,thats the reason there is so much dross about because litter wastage,with a few names sprinkled amidst the pedigree is the mainstay of the modern Bedlington.I breed mine tighter than most and bred towards more of a work ethic than the majority of pedigrees ever did.I used to dream of a unified effort to produce a nucleus of bedlingtons that were reminiscent of their working heritage and conformation,thats a lost cause with the ego,s that pollute the breed for dollar,dollar that often equates to the paper the dogs bred from and i want no part of that.Gutchcommon lines when the dogs ran freely out of control and many a litter was bred with a ?,Granitor lines that were tall and light coloured and within a few generations they were far smaller and dark without any change in the names on their pedigrees?Rillington lines that strayed from their purpose when George aged.I stopped dreaming a while back and got real and mine will hold company with any honest worker bred now,Bedlington or other. Very straight forward post mate ,apart from the last sentence .I'm sure your a wind up merchant who would never dream of using more than one dog to ground .If you are that man you are welcome here any time as there's plenty to go at. Id much prefer to have 1 in at any given time,when you have more than 1 terrier ratching about on top its inevitable that at certain times they will enter the same location,thats a given fact with that type of hunting and terriers that are bred to work below as well as they work on top.I have a Lakey here that i could not risk doubled up,thus she is kept leashed when the others are loose.In certain locations ill freely enter 2 dogs i.e.1st terrier at one end of a rambling rock pile and the 2nd an 100yds or more further along the slide.Do i advocate the use of more than 1 in if they are known to work together without grief?,i have the confidence in mine to work that way and it certainly gets results. Quote Link to post
YOKEL 2,288 Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 brought mine direct from s/staley. treacle was his bitch, a daughter of rambo, aherns rusty was a son of rambo. if memory serves me well,it was treacle that carried the lakeland blood. was some years past tho, so could be wrong... Yokel brought mine direct from s/staley. treacle was his bitch, a daughter of rambo, aherns rusty was a son of rambo. if memory serves me well,it was treacle that carried the lakeland blood. was some years past tho, so could be wrong... Yokel Rusty was bred by rambo to meg of brynwood by j piggin cheers, all long gone. treacle was a quarter lakey, i know she was out of rambo, but can't recall the half cross she was out of?Yokel By Rambo, they can't be OUT OF a dog !I wouldn't admit anything I had was by that rubbish in a court of law, if you r terriers suit you it came from the Dam. Deary me, you been on the sauce??? Calm down son it's Xmas. I didn't think the post that important to check for errors. I'm well aware a litter can't be "OUT" of a dog, just an unintended error. You got the jist didn't you? As for not admitting in a court of law? Is there laws against that breeding? If there was it wouldn't bother me, was over 20yrs ago, and I wouldn't own another if you paid me...Horses for courses I spose...Now, try not to get to excited...Yokel Quote Link to post
YOKEL 2,288 Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 brought mine direct from s/staley. treacle was his bitch, a daughter of rambo, aherns rusty was a son of rambo. if memory serves me well,it was treacle that carried the lakeland blood. was some years past tho, so could be wrong... Yokel brought mine direct from s/staley. treacle was his bitch, a daughter of rambo, aherns rusty was a son of rambo. if memory serves me well,it was treacle that carried the lakeland blood. was some years past tho, so could be wrong... Yokel Rusty was bred by rambo to meg of brynwood by j piggin cheers, all long gone. treacle was a quarter lakey, i know she was out of rambo, but can't recall the half cross she was out of?Yokel By Rambo, they can't be OUT OF a dog !I wouldn't admit anything I had was by that rubbish in a court of law, if you r terriers suit you it came from the Dam. Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 https://youtu.be/xX_2QyaYa2E Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Some dog that rambo lol Quote Link to post
YOKEL 2,288 Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Only watched the first bit. How many dogs in a stop? Lakey, Russel and a beddy! There was a tidy bitch round Ipswich 20yr back. I used to do the digging on an estate near the Orwell bridge. Fella would occasionally turn up with a wee bitch called "newt" looked like a pure beddy but no more than 14" she was in fact half fell to a beddy/whippet! Totally thru back to the beddy in appearance. She was mute at work. Lock on and draw. Never bred from to my knowledge as God knows what she would have thrown... Yokel Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 https://youtu.be/xX_2QyaYa2E Ive seen that clip before,a lakey that went awol,a russel that was an ornament,a couple of lads that were out of their depth and a Beddy that was dragged over the coals and nothing was ever mentioned of the rest. Quote Link to post
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