desertbred 5,490 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) He was a professional soldiier, he stepped off the parade ground and got caught it happens and is part of the turmoil of conflict. Personally I dont think he should have been prosecuted he acted in a humane way . His downfall was his comment regarding breaking the Geneva Convention which should be torn up war is war. I hope the judges see the reality of the situation and send him home to his wife and kids. Edited December 16, 2016 by desertbred 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,849 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 You can't just cut round wasting people buck shee........he knows it, everybody knows it. The best armed forces on planet earth simply can't tolerate loose cannons.......it's why they are so good. if you were stood behind him when he was going to pull the trigger would you have tried to talk him out of it wilf Yes I bet you would be in the minority Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 You can't just cut round wasting people buck shee........he knows it, everybody knows it. The best armed forces on planet earth simply can't tolerate loose cannons.......it's why they are so good. The bloke was in bits after being shredded by an Apache mate, all he did was bring his death forward.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,353 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 He was a professional soldiier, he stepped off the parade ground and got caught it happens and is part of the turmoil of conflict. Personally I dont think he should have been prosecuted he acted in a humane way . His downfall was his comment regarding breaking the Geneva Convention which should be torn up war is war. I hope the judges see the reality of the situation and send him home to his wife and kids. One of my closest pals is a serving soldier with multiple tours of Afghan under his belt, he has never once suggested the Geneva convention should be torn up. He is not some Gung-ho prick living in am american war film fantasy land, he is a professional British soldier doing his job to a high standard just like thousands of others......there is no room for mavericks. We have a special mavericks regiment who cut round wasting people, that's a different kettle of fish. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,353 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 You can't just cut round wasting people buck shee........he knows it, everybody knows it. The best armed forces on planet earth simply can't tolerate loose cannons.......it's why they are so good. if you were stood behind him when he was going to pull the trigger would you have tried to talk him out of it wilf Yes I bet you would be in the minority I bet you are right mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) He was a professional soldiier, he stepped off the parade ground and got caught it happens and is part of the turmoil of conflict. Personally I dont think he should have been prosecuted he acted in a humane way . His downfall was his comment regarding breaking the Geneva Convention which should be torn up war is war. I hope the judges see the reality of the situation and send him home to his wife and kids. One of my closest pals is a serving soldier with multiple tours of Afghan under his belt, he has never once suggested the Geneva convention should be torn up. He is not some Gung-ho prick living in am american war film fantasy land, he is a professional British soldier doing his job to a high standard just like thousands of others......there is no room for maver We have a special mavericks regiment who cut round wasting people, that's a different kettle of fish. Wilf you put a uniform on and in some situations you have to be judge , jury and executioner. Afghanistan been there rules dont apply in some situations a terrorist in a vest you dont discuss the error of fhis ways. That is the reality yes some quote rules of war usually those tucked in the rear with the gear or behind a desk. Conventional war looks good in war games and in military college. Go ask lads in the 22,s their opinion of the GC.. Edited December 16, 2016 by desertbred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shepp 2,285 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 For anybody who had not been in that soldiers position can in no way say in what way they will behave in a combat situation. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,353 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) He was a professional soldiier, he stepped off the parade ground and got caught it happens and is part of the turmoil of conflict. Personally I dont think he should have been prosecuted he acted in a humane way . His downfall was his comment regarding breaking the Geneva Convention which should be torn up war is war. I hope the judges see the reality of the situation and send him home to his wife and kids. One of my closest pals is a serving soldier with multiple tours of Afghan under his belt, he has never once suggested the Geneva convention should be torn up.He is not some Gung-ho prick living in am american war film fantasy land, he is a professional British soldier doing his job to a high standard just like thousands of others......there is no room for maver We have a special mavericks regiment who cut round wasting people, that's a different kettle of fish. Wilf you put a uniform on and in some situations you have to be judge , jury and executioner. Afghanistan been there rules dont apply in some situations a terrorist in a vest you dont discuss the error of fhis ways. That is the reality yes some quote rules of war usually those tucked in the rear with the gear or behind a desk. Conventional war looks good in war games and in military college. Go ask lads in the 22,s their opinion of the GC..Aye, but we are not talking about a terrorist in a vest.....we are talking about a wounded combatant whose body was in tatters from an air strike and we are talking about a senior NCO cutting about with a go pro and giving it big licks in front of his blokes.That's the reality, it's not f***ing Micky J Fox starring in Casualties of War mate. With all due respect I know you were in The Iranian army mate but this is the British army.......we don't really go in for cutting round villages rinsing the locals with mustard gas and shooting goats so it's a bit different. Edited December 16, 2016 by WILF 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 He was a professional soldiier, he stepped off the parade ground and got caught it happens and is part of the turmoil of conflict. Personally I dont think he should have been prosecuted he acted in a humane way . His downfall was his comment regarding breaking the Geneva Convention which should be torn up war is war. I hope the judges see the reality of the situation and send him home to his wife and kids.One of my closest pals is a serving soldier with multiple tours of Afghan under his belt, he has never once suggested the Geneva convention should be torn up.He is not some Gung-ho prick living in am american war film fantasy land, he is a professional British soldier doing his job to a high standard just like thousands of others......there is no room for maver We have a special mavericks regiment who cut round wasting people, that's a different kettle of fish. Wilf you put a uniform on and in some situations you have to be judge , jury and executioner. Afghanistan been there rules dont apply in some situations a terrorist in a vest you dont discuss the error of fhis ways. That is the reality yes some quote rules of war usually those tucked in the rear with the gear or behind a desk. Conventional war looks good in war games and in military college. Go ask lads in the 22,s their opinion of the GC..Aye, but we are not talking about a terrorist in a vest.....we are talking about a wounded combatant whose body was in tatters from an air strike and we are talking about a senior NCO cutting about with a go pro and giving it big licks in front of his blokes.That's the reality, it's not f***ing Micky J Fox starring in Casualties of War mate. With all due respect I know you were in The Iranian army mate but this is the British army.......we don't really go in for cutting round villages rinsing the locals with mustard gas and shooting goats so it's a bit different. w Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) LOL I gave you a bit of credit Wilf my Mistake LOL You say he was a " Combatant" He was a member of AlQuaida/Taliban a UN proscribed Terrorist organisation and many of his colleagues were interned in Guantanimo not as combatants but as Terrorists so they didnt come within the cover of the GC you havent got a clue what your talking about Wilf.. As for rinsing Innocents and Goats LOL you are a proper clown just remind me how long it took the Western forces to manage the sum total of f**k all in Syria Yet these goat slayers of Iran done it in double quick time go to sleep Wilf LOL Just been reading two ex soldiers a 65 and 67 year old Ex Paras are being prosecuted for killing an IRA man in 1972 yet Provos were given amnesty this is ok is it Wilf? leave soldiers to do their jobs Wilf not be second guessed by civvies Edited December 16, 2016 by desertbred 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 I've read several accounts that say during some of the major assaults in the falklands war Argentinian solders were shot even though they tried to surrender, the Army/Marines couldn't have taken them captive even if they'd wanted to. I bet that kind of stuff has happened loads. I remember reading about a bayonet charge in the Iraq war, I couldn't believe what I was reading even though I've spent my entire life researching WW2 and other wars. I naively thought stuff like that was ancient history...I guess that's thanks to the sanitized media reporting. We just don't know what kind of situation that squad was facing at the time 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 There is nothing sanitised about conflict mate its a cesspit, with the body bags draped in National flags. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Gain 1,764 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Us civvies just don't know what goes on in war zones, but I'm sure it's a case of 'kill or be killed'. I can remember back in the late 60's where a handcuffed Viet Cong was executed and footage was actually shown on the main news. The footage can still be seen on youtube. A reporter photographed it as well, after the shot had been fired and before the victim fell, the bullet being inside the head of the victim. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 There is nothing sanitised about conflict mate its a cesspit, with the body bags draped in National flags. I agree I meant the way our media reported conflicts, they don't show reality especially during the two Iraq wars, it was just video footage from jets flying at 20,000ft and precision missiles and almost looked like a computer game. No doubt that was deliberate, they wouldn't want a public backlash like what happened in Vietnam to stop their constant wars everywhere. Nowadays with websites like Liveleak non military people can see just how horrendous it is, especially with the amount of video footage from Ukraine and Syria. Maybe our MPs would do well to watch it before voting on more wars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Your spot on mate, the worst of the worst is kept away from the public gaze. Wars leave behinf carnage, death destruction and reprisals. Humanity is the victim as death doesnt take sides no does it descriminate on race religion creed or age.The hardest and most brutal thing I always found it difficult to reconcile were kids and youngsters whose lives were ended before they had a chance to flourish. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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