Blackbriar 8,569 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Sure. OK. Definitely. I can recommend some books on communist theory if you want to find out just how wrong you are. ..........or having trouble sleeping ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted December 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 I've just quoted you the original Marxist version send me some links And I explained that that was describing the dictatorship of the proletariat, a stepping stone towards full communism when the state becomes uncessary and society is stateless. This is communism 101 stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 I've just quoted you the original Marxist version send me some links And I explained that that was describing the dictatorship of the proletariat, a stepping stone towards full communism when the state becomes uncessary and society is stateless. This is communism 101 stuff. Sure but it's never happened so all we know is what Marx said and what the real commies did...that sounds just like Islamism or anarchism, an ideology that is unattainable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted December 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 I've just quoted you the original Marxist version send me some links And I explained that that was describing the dictatorship of the proletariat, a stepping stone towards full communism when the state becomes uncessary and society is stateless. This is communism 101 stuff. Sure but it's never happened so all we know is what Marx said and what the real commies did...that sounds just like Islamism or anarchism, an ideology that is unattainable Full communism is very pie in the sky, you won't get an argument from me on that front. Doesn't change the fact that the end goal of communism is a completely stateless society. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,885 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Does that mean that hunt sabs need banning as they terrorise more people in they're paramilitary clothing? Should it not be fair??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Does that mean that hunt sabs need banning as they terrorise more people in they're paramilitary clothing? Should it not be fair??? for sure they do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Does that mean that hunt sabs need banning as they terrorise more people in they're paramilitary clothing? Should it not be fair??? Terrorist is defined as "a person who uses violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in pursuit of political aims" - so it seems pretty clear to me ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,205 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 I would have thought the Antifa organization were a bigger threat than this group tbh though they are supported by some unions on an unofficial basis . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,849 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 if Hitler was less extreme, would the outcome of been different. He had the backing of Germany at one time after all. he also had the backing of Britain at one time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 I would have thought the Antifa organization were a bigger threat than this group tbh though they are supported by some unions on an unofficial basis . I must have missed AFA praising convicted terrorists and calling for there members to carry out lone wolf attacks? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,205 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 I would have thought the Antifa organization were a bigger threat than this group tbh though they are supported by some unions on an unofficial basis . I must have missed AFA praising convicted terrorists and calling for there members to carry out lone wolf attacks? I have never heard of this group that has been banned tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 I would have thought the Antifa organization were a bigger threat than this group tbh though they are supported by some unions on an unofficial basis .I must have missed AFA praising convicted terrorists and calling for there members to carry out lone wolf attacks? I have never heard of this group that has been banned tbh. I bet you've never heard of most of the terrorist organisations on the proscribed list. What's that got to do with anything? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,885 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Does that mean that hunt sabs need banning as they terrorise more people in they're paramilitary clothing? Should it not be fair??? Terrorist is defined as "a person who uses violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in pursuit of political aims" - so it seems pretty clear to me ! well there's the next E petition to get up and rolling, should be the same for them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Talking about the political spectrum as though it is one dimensional is fraught with inconsistencies and paradoxes. The assumption that it can be easily represented as such is wrong. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Language evolves, it really is as simple as that. These groups even self identify as far right and would be incredibly insulted if you called them leftist! It's just silly complaining about it, everyone knows what far right refers to these days. Yes it refers to anyone that has views that don't match the "far lefts" 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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