Lenmcharristar 10,032 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Seen the film called oddball it was a good watch, they use them on an island to protect penguins from fox predation and they work well. Just goes to show dogs do play a massive part in keeping a natural balance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Seen the film called oddball it was a good watch, they use them on an island to protect penguins from fox predation and they work well. Just goes to show dogs do play a massive part in keeping a natural balance That sounds great for the penguins but what about the foxes does that mean they are deprived of their food? Does not sound like a natural balance to me. TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Seen the film called oddball it was a good watch, they use them on an island to protect penguins from fox predation and they work well. Just goes to show dogs do play a massive part in keeping a natural balance That sounds great for the penguins but what about the foxes does that mean they are deprived of their food? Does not sound like a natural balance to me. TC The foxes shouldn't be there they were introduced by humans and upset the natural balance of the island, the dogs are being used to help restore that natural balance. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 As I said not a natural balance. TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 To be honest, before I looked them up I thought they were in Antarctica (penguins) and the foxes were part of the ecology. Now I have read what is actually happening then I agree it is a good thing. TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leethedog 3,071 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 But the natural balance will set right once the intrusive species has been eliminated Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 Well no, it stopped being a natural balance when predators introduced by humans started crossing over from the mainland at low tide and decimated the penguin population. The dogs are an attempt to redress that balance. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 As I said not a natural balance. TC true TC, but mans been manipulating the natural balance since gods dog died. Usual based upon what we believe to be the most "valuable" creature/environment etc. Grouse moors are not a natural environmental balance, but they are managed for "the greater good". Question is, where do you draw the line? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 As I said not a natural balance. TC true TC, but mans been manipulating the natural balance since gods dog died. Usual based upon what we believe to be the most "valuable" creature/environment etc. Grouse moors are not a natural environmental balance, but they are managed for "the greater good". Question is, where do you draw the line? Thats the problem, whenever man has a hand in anything it is always for his advantage. Sometimes though they will pick the weakest species and manage the environment for their benefit exclusively, to the detriment of other species. TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,032 Posted December 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 The we girl put the film on and said for me to watch it I had no interest until it said based on a true story then it got my attention, they defo do a good job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,014 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 The we girl put the film on and said for me to watch it I had no interest until it said based on a true story then it got my attention, they defo do a good job the dogs look bit like kangals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,550 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Not too long ago I met some old Afrikaan guys in a coffee shop on the east coast of Africa who were involved in a charity that imports and rears kangals for locals to use in their flocks Apparently it dissuades the large apex scale predators and hyenas to have a 10 stone monster dog taking umbrage to the presence of a lion or cheetah in "their" flock Also helps to continue the breeding of them in their pure form 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,032 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Not too long ago I met some old Afrikaan guys in a coffee shop on the east coast of Africa who were involved in a charity that imports and rears kangals for locals to use in their flocks Apparently it dissuades the large apex scale predators and hyenas to have a 10 stone monster dog taking umbrage to the presence of a lion or cheetah in "their" flock Also helps to continue the breeding of them in their pure form them kangals are big brutes, tough looking to go with it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,174 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 The we girl put the film on and said for me to watch it I had no interest until it said based on a true story then it got my attention, they defo do a good job I was the same when I watched it with the lad a while back ...I thought it was a great film and great to see working dogs in a film and not the usual disnyfiction rubbish. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,032 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 The we girl put the film on and said for me to watch it I had no interest until it said based on a true story then it got my attention, they defo do a good jobI was the same when I watched it with the lad a while back ...I thought it was a great film and great to see working dogs in a film and not the usual disnyfiction rubbish.exactly my thoughts also, the fox was portrayed as the pest he is, and showed the danger that he poses to ground nesters and other livestock birds. The Aussies didn't mince their words 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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