Quite A Change!

[Lenmcharristar 9,906]

It ruins their health eventually. I would have dogs pass some type of functional test before they're allowed to enter KC dog shows. This would at least show they are physically sound at a basic level.

bring the teastas mor haha

[sussex 5,777]

If folk want to breed for looks and show their dogs what's the problem? A lot of these breeds don't even have a "job" to breed for anymore and the ones that are still used for work split into show and working lines and everyone is happy.

I don't see why it should banned, at the end of the day it's up to them what they do with their dogs surely.

The problem I see is breeding show spaniels that have huge long ears that constantly have trouble , GSD that are all but cripples , cavalier King Charles were the skull is to small for the brain , bulldogs that can't give birth naturally and can't breath properly the list is endless just can't be right ..why would you breed a defect into a dog just to conform to a breed standard that is far removed from the dogs original job , I've no problem splitting show and working dogs providing the show dogs are healthy ..

[BGD 6,436]

I just think it's a bit of a slippery slope, first they ban hunting, then dog shows and before you know it they've banned keeping dogs altogether which we all know is the end game for the animal rights squad.

 

Gnasher got what I was getting at earlier in the thread, dogs are property and we should be able to do what we want with them, anything else just starts to sound like animal rights nonsense to me.

 

Remember who made that programme about these problems with pedigree dogs and has been pushing the agenda ever since...

[kanny 20,768]

 

 

Handsome is as handsome does.

 

True,but do you think any of the dogs pictured on the right of the pic above are handsome?

Personally no but obviously plenty do or we wouldn't be where we are today .

[sussex 5,777]

I just think it's a bit of a slippery slope, first they ban hunting, then dog shows and before you know it they've banned keeping dogs altogether which we all know is the end game for the animal rights squad.

Gnasher got what I was getting at earlier in the thread, dogs are property and we should be able to do what we want with them, anything else just starts to sound like animal rights nonsense to me.

Remember who made that programme about these problems with pedigree dogs and has been pushing the agenda ever since...

I don't want to ban dog shows just people breeding dogs that are genetically defective ..

[BGD 6,436]

Who decides what's unacceptably genetically defective? Should breeders have to apply to the government for permission to do a mating to make sure it won't result in genetically defective pups?

[Lab 10,979]

Who decides what's unacceptably genetically defective? Should breeders have to apply to the government for permission to do a mating to make sure it won't result in genetically defective pups?

Vets would be my answer. Records could be easily kept on increasing problems that arising in certain breeds. Pretty straight forward I'd think.

Already some have been mentioned which would be a good start.

[BGD 6,436]

 

Who decides what's unacceptably genetically defective? Should breeders have to apply to the government for permission to do a mating to make sure it won't result in genetically defective pups?

Vets would be my answer. Records could be easily kept on increasing problems that arising in certain breeds. Pretty straight forward I'd think.

Already some have been mentioned which would be a good start.

I just wouldn't be comfortable handing that power over to anyone, if you own the dogs and you're going to be rearing the pups it should be up to you whether you breed them or not.

 

I'm turning all libertarian all of a sudden

[The one 8,511]

As said each to there own if folk want to spend a grand on a cavalier king Charles that going to cost a fortune at the vets later in its life as it eyes are bulging out its skull because it was born with head problems or £200 on a lurcher pup thats going to get you out and put food on the table thats there choice

[Tiercel 6,986]

BGD you really should go in to politics as you never give a straight answer, just answer a question with a question.

 

TC

[BGD 6,436]

BGD you really should go in to politics as you never give a straight answer, just answer a question with a question.

 

TC

Where has anyone even asked me a question in this thread Edited December 5, 2016 by BGD

[neems 2,406]

 

 

Handsome is as handsome does.

True,but do you think any of the dogs pictured on the right of the pic above are handsome?

Personally no but obviously plenty do or we wouldn't be where we are today .

 

 

I'm not sure they do,I have a feeling with some of the particularly hideous breeds that the owners and breeders are a bit like modern art fanciers,they just want to be in a club and see something in a breed us plebs aren't refined enough to.

[sussex 5,777]

Who decides what's unacceptably genetically defective?

 

Certainly not anyone who thinks it's right to breed a dog that can only be born by Caesarian section ..

[Tiercel 6,986]

 

BGD you really should go in to politics as you never give a straight answer, just answer a question with a question.

 

TC

Where has anyone even asked me a question in this thread

 

 

 

If folk want to breed for looks and show their dogs what's the problem? A lot of these breeds don't even have a "job" to breed for anymore and the ones that are still used for work split into show and working lines and everyone is happy.

I don't see why it should banned, at the end of the day it's up to them what they do with their dogs surely.

The problem I see is breeding show spaniels that have huge long ears that constantly have trouble , GSD that are all but cripples , cavalier King Charles were the skull is to small for the brain , bulldogs that can't give birth naturally and can't breath properly the list is endless just can't be right ..why would you breed a defect into a dog just to conform to a breed standard that is far removed from the dogs original job , I've no problem splitting show and working dogs providing the show dogs are healthy ..

 

Who decides what's unacceptably genetically defective? Should breeders have to apply to the government for permission to do a mating to make sure it won't result in genetically defective pups?

 

 

The piece in bold as it starts with why? In my eyes is a question. As your answer starts with who? That is also a question.

 

TC

[BGD 6,436]

 

 

 

BGD you really should go in to politics as you never give a straight answer, just answer a question with a question.

 

TC

Where has anyone even asked me a question in this thread

 

If folk want to breed for looks and show their dogs what's the problem? A lot of these breeds don't even have a "job" to breed for anymore and the ones that are still used for work split into show and working lines and everyone is happy.

I don't see why it should banned, at the end of the day it's up to them what they do with their dogs surely.

The problem I see is breeding show spaniels that have huge long ears that constantly have trouble , GSD that are all but cripples , cavalier King Charles were the skull is to small for the brain , bulldogs that can't give birth naturally and can't breath properly the list is endless just can't be right ..why would you breed a defect into a dog just to conform to a breed standard that is far removed from the dogs original job , I've no problem splitting show and working dogs providing the show dogs are healthy ..

Who decides what's unacceptably genetically defective? Should breeders have to apply to the government for permission to do a mating to make sure it won't result in genetically defective pups?

The piece in bold as it starts with why? In my eyes is a question. As your answer starts with who? That is also a question.

 

TC

And just for you here's a nice straight answer - because you own the dog and that's what you want to do.

 

(Seriously if you couldn't figure out that would be the answer from my other posts in this thread I'd suggest some reading comprehension lessons )

Edited December 5, 2016 by BGD