bigmac 97kt 13,807 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 The wolf is better Shaun much better mate SO WITCH IS BETTER LADS 22 OR 177 SORRY COULD NOT HELP MY SELF WAIT TILL REZ SEE,S THIS LOL ATVBJIMMY :thumbs: 1 Quote Link to post
Durham John 693 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Newly, I wonder if Bradfords just happened to have a. 22 ranger on the shelf? All about the sales at this time of year! They both have the same power ie 12 lbs 1 Quote Link to post
RSVNelly 518 Posted December 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 The thing that I don't fully understand is that .77 is a smaller lighter pellet but you get less from a full cylinder? I thought it would surely be the other way round? Now going to look at the wolf Quote Link to post
RSVNelly 518 Posted December 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 The wolf is better Shaun much better mate SO WITCH IS BETTER LADS 22 OR 177 SORRY COULD NOT HELP MY SELF WAIT TILL REZ SEE,S THIS LOL ATVBJIMMY :thumbs: By heck there's a big jump in money Jimmy!!! Quote Link to post
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 The thing that I don't fully understand is that .77 is a smaller lighter pellet but you get less from a full cylinder? I thought it would surely be the other way round? Now going to look at the wolf To put it in terms that my little brain understands....... It's because the .177 is a smaller, lighter pellet, it needs a bigger hit of air behind it to achieve a faster speed so that can make the same power. Weight x velocity = ftlb energy. Also, as others have said, the guy at the rfd is talking coblers .177 is fine for hunting I have used .22 - my favourite rifle and and, my single honest keeper is my .22 TX. For hunting, personally, I much prefer .177 - the lighter, faster pellet and flatter trajectory works for me. I also like a heavier pellet - JSB Heavy 10.34gn. I've always found that it performs well and hits hard. I've had success with it on everything from birds to rats to rabbits and squirrels. 3 Quote Link to post
philpot 5,031 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 If you want to save some cash Shaun, I will be selling my Utramax .177 which you can tune to your hearts content and it is in camo.......................... Phil Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,807 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Right lets put this right Shaun you have a BSA R10 HW100KT BOTH 22 you have two of the best money can buy all ready do you really need another pic one of the two you have as your main rifle and use that as your hunting rifle and the other is a spare if any thing go,s wrong with the hunting one . If any thing get a springer for the range get a tx200,177 hw97k, 177,,pro sport 177 three of the top,,top,,top of the range rifles , Honest mate you do not need another pcp of any kind to start off with nothing will match the hw100 mate not even any daystate keep your money and SAVE YOUR MARRIAGE LOL IV GOT PLENTY OF RIFLES FOR OWEN TO USE AT THE RANGE SO THATS NOT A PROBLEM Hell he can use the hw100 any time he wants . AND BY THE WAY JUST BECAUSE I LIKE SOME THING OR DONT DOSE NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO MATE EACH TO THERE OWN LIKES. its down to what you want and not me or any one else its your money all we can do is advice you and try to help I had 14 rifles at one time but you can only use one at a time DONT LET THE BUG BITE YOU SHAUN IT WILL COST YOU IN THE END BIG TIME MATE ATVBJIMMY :thumbs: 4 Quote Link to post
Jonjon79 13,358 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 That's sound advice on the springer Mac ........ I think every collection is better for having one Also, I find that my shooting improves after using a springer. 2 Quote Link to post
steg 609 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) I have only the one.. HW100KT .177/ Airmax 30sf scope and it loves AA express pellets. Shot some lovely 55 yard 7 shot groups Sunday morning outside (5p) Must admit I'm fighting the urge to get another set up but I like me 2-3 jolly hols in the med each year. Not owned a springer for a few year's now but think my next set up..is going to be a springer for back up. You lot make me feel like a tight t**t with your armouries! ? Atb steg Edited December 7, 2016 by steg 3 Quote Link to post
David.evans 5,323 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Yep , 177 , an't no goog for rabbit shooting , absolutely useless with the air wolf , it's a bad combo ! Atb 5 Quote Link to post
David.evans 5,323 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 And your right jimmy , all the air rifles have gone except 1 And it's got your name on it Atb mate Dave Quote Link to post
RSVNelly 518 Posted December 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) Right lets put this right Shaun you have a BSA R10 HW100KT BOTH 22 you have two of the best money can buy all ready do you really need another pic one of the two you have as your main rifle and use that as your hunting rifle and the other is a spare if any thing go,s wrong with the hunting one . If any thing get a springer for the range get a tx200,177 hw97k, 177,,pro sport 177 three of the top,,top,,top of the range rifles , Honest mate you do not need another pcp of any kind to start off with nothing will match the hw100 mate not even any daystate keep your money and SAVE YOUR MARRIAGE LOL IV GOT PLENTY OF RIFLES FOR OWEN TO USE AT THE RANGE SO THATS NOT A PROBLEM Hell he can use the hw100 any time he wants . AND BY THE WAY JUST BECAUSE I LIKE SOME THING OR DONT DOSE NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO MATE EACH TO THERE OWN LIKES. its down to what you want and not me or any one else its your money all we can do is advice you and try to help I had 14 rifles at one time but you can only use one at a time DONT LET THE BUG BITE YOU SHAUN IT WILL COST YOU IN THE END BIG TIME MATE ATVBJIMM I know you're right mate, Julia is thinking of starting as well just the indoor range at the moment. I think I feel like the R10 isn't really mine, I know you've been extremely generous offering the use of your armoury to Owen but I know that's the one Julia will be using as well. I just don't want to be zeroing it and messing around every time it comes to me wanting to shoot it. That's why my initial thought was another in .77 so I had the use of both, then the bloke said that, so I was unsure, even though Sean had already told me about .77 having just as good stopping power as .22. I also understand what you're saying about a springer but I've not seen one yet that I've thought "wow I love the look of that", I think that's partly because I think I completely missed that phase and jumped straight in with the R10. Edited December 7, 2016 by RSVNelly Quote Link to post
philpot 5,031 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 To be honest Shaun, Jimmy has given you some wise words, heed them mate. This shooting mularky will digest loads and loads of dosh, trust me I have been shooting from the age of 13................................ouch. As Jimmy said, you have two cracking guns and another PCP will offer you................WHAT??.......................nothing different. I appear to have too many guns at the moment and it is true but I have a small window of opportunity while a bit of cash is there and once gone I can't replace it very easily so my tinkering with multiple guns is short lived and will sell some and settle on the few I want for different reasons. I am trying to finish up with the guns that will in effect see me through a number of years even if it is only plinking in the garden. Stick with what you have and really master them, possibly a springer will add some challenge for you but for hunting and target shooting with what you have is spot on mate. I doubt I will hunt with my TX, it is there as a challenge and helps to make me a better shot, well thats the theory. My mind is whizzing a bit with future plans but there is no rush for you and you don't want to p1ss your wife off so much that the very mention of guns causes an argument, it is not worth it in my opinion. I am lucky as my wife is happy for me buy stuff but she knows that it won't go on much longer. Phil 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,807 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 To be honest Shaun, Jimmy has given you some wise words, heed them mate. This shooting mularky will digest loads and loads of dosh, trust me I have been shooting from the age of 13................................ouch. As Jimmy said, you have two cracking guns and another PCP will offer you................WHAT??.......................nothing different. I appear to have too many guns at the moment and it is true but I have a small window of opportunity while a bit of cash is there and once gone I can't replace it very easily so my tinkering with multiple guns is short lived and will sell some and settle on the few I want for different reasons. I am trying to finish up with the guns that will in effect see me through a number of years even if it is only plinking in the garden. Stick with what you have and really master them, possibly a springer will add some challenge for you but for hunting and target shooting with what you have is spot on mate. I doubt I will hunt with my TX, it is there as a challenge and helps to make me a better shot, well thats the theory. My mind is whizzing a bit with future plans but there is no rush for you and you don't want to p1ss your wife off so much that the very mention of guns causes an argument, it is not worth it in my opinion. I am lucky as my wife is happy for me buy stuff but she knows that it won't go on much longer. Phil Could not have put it better my self Phil Shaun if Julia is thinking of starting up and Owen wants to go to the range she can use the r10 and Owen the hw100 carbine . even if im not going just pm me and pop in on the way to the range and pick up the hw100 mate easy as that No good buying her a rifle if she is not going to like shooting so let her try it first then if she wants to keep doing it buy her some thing you both can use if you know my drift lol atvbjimmy :thumbs: 1 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,807 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 image.jpeg Yep , 177 , an't no goog for rabbit shooting , absolutely useless with the air wolf , it's a bad combo ! Atb My rifle looks good in that pic David now when was the last time you oil,d her and is she wrapped up nice and warm in the gun cabinet and are you sure she has no dings in the stock is the blueing ok and,,,and,,,and atvbjimmy :thumbs: Quote Link to post
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